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Chopin Etude op. 10 #4 on the CP4

Dave Ferris

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ElmerJFudd

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She's so very good, right?. I think this is

a recording off the USB stick synced to the video. Cool apartment location as well. Being extremely nit picky there are a few notes that would have triggered on a good acoustic action that just barely miss on the digital. But overall a really nice sound from Yamaha's light weight slab stage piano.

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Dave Ferris

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I've been playing *at* this piece for 35 years. After I warm up on it for maybe 20 minutes, on certain sections I can get it a little under where she's at (around 160= quarter)on an acoustic , not digital.

 

To be really nit picky- I'm losing the clarity of the 4 note 16th groupings against the LH with too much pedal starting at bar 71. And then from 75-78 I totally lose the clarity of the 4 note groupings in both hands. Pretty certain this wouldn't be the case on an acoustic as the key response and repetition is quicker.

 

She played 79-80 as clean as a whistle. Incredible ! Been working on it over half my life and I can never nail that section. :(

 

Yes top notch playing and very clean overall on a finger buster if there ever was one.

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I gave up trying to play it at some decent speed many years ago - especially after hearing Pollini's version, which should be 180 bpm or more. Richter does it even faster in that historical video... really to the limits of what's humanly possible.

 

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Playing op 10 n.4 is exponential more difficult on a digital piano - any digital piano. A real piano is so progressive and forgiving. It really shows that they're not really there yet with piano emulation...

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Good lord that Richter video.

 

Hats off to Vika on the CP4. I agree at some point with extremely fast notes the action of the CP4 just isn't up to the task. It's getting there though and where playing these kind of pieces on a stage keyboard like the CP4 years ago would have been a joke, it is now in the realm of possibility.

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Performed this piece on a recital many years ago but I don't think it was that fast, especially Richter's interpretation! :o

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ElmerJFudd

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I gave up trying to play it at some decent speed many years ago - especially after hearing Pollini's version, which should be 180 bpm or more. Richter does it even faster in that historical video... really to the limits of what's humanly possible.

 

[video:youtube]

 

Playing op 10 n.4 is exponential more difficult on a digital piano - any digital piano. A real piano is so progressive and forgiving. It really shows that they're not really there yet with piano emulation...

 

Beyond speed, the precision is outstanding as is the musicality at the same time. This is the sort of sh*t that happens when you don't have the f*cking internet to distract you. ;) (or job, or bills or kids, or blah blah)

 

Plus how old is he in this recording? Amazing he still has the dexterity.

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Outstanding playing ! Especially on a stage digital piano. No more excuses here... ;):o

 

Damn. SMH. :keys:

 

I gave up trying to play it at some decent speed many years ago - especially after hearing Pollini's version, which should be 180 bpm or more. Richter does it even faster in that historical video... really to the limits of what's humanly possible.

 

now really SMDH :D:keys2:

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Bobadohshe

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^^^ MY GOD. Also very impressive. Sounding incredible. The nuances of a relaxed hand and forceful technique at those tempos are just so elusive. I can't even sniff those heights.

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Great thread. Enjoyable, inspiring and humbling. Thanks everyone! The performances are amazing and, of course, Chopin is a genius. I've been playing -- or I should say trying to play -- his Etudes and other pieces for decades.
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I remember seeing other vids of her playing similarly intricate classical pieces on the CP4 when I was looking for demos before I bought mine. She is incredible all around. I just sit in awe of players like this, which I need to see and hear from time to time to remind me how good I'm not. :)

 

I was classically trained on the accordion when I was much younger, but everything I do on the piano is self-taught. I keep using that as justification/excuse for not having anywhere near the dexterity in my left hand that so many of these players have (and probably many of you all here). I mean, I pat myself on the back when I hit an Elton John instrumental pretty close to dead on, and then I hear someone who can really play to bring me back down to earth. I have no pretenses about ever being that good, but I love taking in these kinds of performances nonetheless, just imagining how much work went into getting to that point. Even so, it still amazes me.

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Back in the 80s I'd play that Pollini CD first thing almost every morning and listen to it for inspiration before I started practicing.

 

I saw him do all of op. 10 at Dorothy Chandler Pavilion in the 90s. I had about eighth row and you could just feel his power and raw emotion. Probably the concert where I most felt like there was God up there playing on stage.

 

Also saw Murray Perahia doing a mix of Op.10 & 25 at Royce Hall in 2002. I was seated much further back and came away with a totally different type of impression with him. Still perfection but maybe more lyrical and soulful. Another very memorable night.

 

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MP was just at Disney Hall recently doing a mix of Bach, Haydn, Beethoven, Franck and Chopin. I wasn't able to attend but I heard they wheeled the NY D off the Disney stage and he used the CP4 for his encores. He announced he was getting tired of just that same old *one* sound and wanted something different. Word has it he had just found out about the Zucchetti sound pack, his keyboard tech had downloaded it backstage during the concert, and MP was getting some pretty cool layered sounds on the Chopin Nocturnes for the encore. He also insists on running in stereo. :keys:

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Back in the 80s I'd play that Pollini CD first thing almost every morning and listen to it for inspiration before I started practicing.

 

I saw him do all of op. 10 at Dorothy Chandler Pavilion in the 90s. I had about eighth row and you could just feel his power and raw emotion. Probably the concert where I most felt like there was God up there playing on stage.

I know the feeling... that little voice saying, "Perhaps you should consider finding honest work". :D

 

Also saw Murray Perahia doing a mix of Op.10 & 25 at Royce Hall in 2002. I was seated much further back and came away with a totally different type of impression with him. Still perfection but maybe more lyrical and soulful. Another very memorable night.

 

[video:youtube]

 

MP was just at Disney Hall recently doing a mix of Bach, Haydn, Beethoven, Franck and Chopin. I wasn't able to attend but I heard they wheeled the NY D off the Disney stage and he used the CP4 for his encores. He announced he was getting tired of just that same old *one* sound and wanted something different. Word has it he had just found out about the Zucchetti sound pack, his keyboard tech had downloaded it backstage during the concert, and MP was getting some pretty cool layered sounds on the Chopin Nocturnes for the encore. He also insists on running in stereo. :keys:

I assume that by "MP", you mean Murray Perahia. :freak: He's a great musician, and not afraid of trying new things..... but the day I'll see Maurizio Pollini playing Chopin on a digital piano, I'll take it as a sure sign of the end of the world. :D

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