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ES7 versus..... ES8!?


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Leak from German site... fake?

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pichosterforme/AAF71788-7174-4472-8E84-E9FA7FB979CE.jpg

 

http://www.musikhaus-hogrebe.de/instrumente/tasteninstrumente/digital-pianos/kawai-es-8-schwarz-detail

 

"It was improved in substantial points opposite the ES7:

 

RH3 keyboard (ES7: RH2)

Harmonic Imaging XL sound engine (like CAx7 series, ES7: PHI)

3 "wing" [bad translation] sound: Shigeru Kawai ex, Kawai ex, Shigeru Kawai SK-5 (like CAx7 series)

Improved loudspeaker system

White model with new Snow White colour (ES7: Ivory White)

extended Virtual Technician

and much more besides!"

 

 

 

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Why would it be fake? ES7 is due for an update. The specs seem to be what would be expected for a successor. My ES7 was a work horse with 1000 plus hours on it. Excellent board. Cant wait to try the ES8.
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Model refreshes often include UI changes, too. I doubt that the controls are 1:1 the same as in ES7, therefore the image is likely photoshopped. Anyway, I expect official announcement within the next 3 weeks. And the specs are tasty ;)
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Looks and sounds like a winner.

 

Sure, as the ES7 was a winner to, yet i dont see much reason for ES7 players to upgrade.. A name like ES7+ would also have sufficed

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Sure, as the ES7 was a winner to, yet i dont see much reason for ES7 players to upgrade.. A name like ES7+ would also have sufficed

New action, new piano sounds, improved speakers, improved virtual technician... All significant upgrades.

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I saw this at Thomann.de this morning. Looks promising! :)

 

Lots of info can be found at the British site - including sound demos:

 

http://www.kawai.co.uk/es8.htm

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Where's Kawai James with the insider info?

 

I'm here for you Dana, what would you like to know? ;)

 

The ES8 takes the updated keyboard action from the CN35/CN25 console models and combines it with the sounds from our top-end CA97/CA67. What's not to like? ;)

 

I saw this at Thomann.de this morning. Looks promising! :)

 

Lots of info can be found at the British site - including sound demos:

 

http://www.kawai.co.uk/es8.htm

 

The multi-language owner's manuals, brochures, and an English language product overview are also available from the Kawai-Global website. We're currently working on English language product pages, which should be online some time next month.

 

Cheers,

James

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Ballpark U.S. price? Is the action closest to the MP7, VPC1 or MP11?

 

Until James gets back:

 

Kraft Music has it available for pre-order at $2,199.

 

The action is like the MP7's but with the addition of counterweights in the keys.

 

This is an impressively specced instrument, and unless Roland trumps it with an FP90 based on the LX17, I'll be buying one when I get back to the UK.

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Dana, voxpops beat me to it...

 

Kraft has just dropped the pre-order price to $1,999.

 

Same price as the ES7. ;)

 

The action is like the MP7's but with the addition of counterweights in the keys.

 

Yep. ;)

I attempted to provide an explanation of the benefits of counterweights over the PianoWorld forum, here.

 

Cheers,

James

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Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player.

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I took delivery of a new ES8 last week. I figured the only way to REALLY know if it was a significant upgrade from my ES7 was to buy it - and do a series of A/B tests. I ordered it from Kraft Music, knowing they have a 30 day return policy (I of course would pay freight both ways - I figured that was the cost of a thorough test). Well - I sent in my warranty card yesterday - it's definitely a keeper. The action does seem a but more solid/quiet, but the real differences are in the piano tones, and - surprisingly - the sound system. The samples are brighter than the ES7, requiring a bit more tweaking (heavy+ touch curve, dynamic voicing) for my taste. But they are noticeably fuller than their ES7 counterparts. And just to make sure the sound system was really that much better (that it was not just better tones), I plugged in my old Kurzweil ME-1 module in both the ES7 and ES8 - it sounds WAY fuller thru the ES8. I anticipate using it without external speakers at smaller venues, which I wouldn't do with the ES7. I'm a happy camper!
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Thank you for the positive feedback Larry, glad to hear you appreciate the improvements. ;)

 

Cheers,

James

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ps. I'm currently in the process of adding product information to Kawai Japan's 'Global' site, with the ES8 page going online last week. I hope to add a SoundCloud playlist shortly, with some additional demos.

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Damn, I'm still happy with my ES3 but only for a controller.

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Never Played an ES. I wonder how it would compare to an old MP8-II

 

Much better sound quality (88-key sampling, more velocity layers, faster DSP) and a more responsive keyboard action. However, despite its age, the all-wood keys on the MP8II are difficult to top.

 

Cheers,

James

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