EscapeRocks Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 Alright kids: Most of you know I use an MOX6 as a Master controller in my rig. It handles changing the Studio Sets on my FA08, and I play a few tones off of the MOX, but mostly use the MOX to play tones from the FA08 when I need to have more than three layers. Anywhooo... I know the main differences between my MOX and the newer MOXF, mainly 128 polyphony, and the ability to bring n samples via an expansion board. Other than this, are there any major enhancements that should lead me to trade up to the F, considering how I use the MOX? So far I can't find any. The only thing I think would have me pull the trigger would be if they made the MOXF easier to use as a slave. (i.e., not have to menu dive and setup song/mixing parts which is a pain!) So far I can't find anything about that. So, any users out there upgrade fro MOX to MOXF? have I already answered my own question? Opinions welcome. Thanks! David Gig Rig:Yamaha CK88 | Arturia Keylab 61mk2 | Mainstage
HAMEGZ Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 HERE on Motifator is a comparison. double the waveform rom, but you are not using the yammy for a ton of sounds so it may be a moot point, I had a MOX 8 sold it to but an MOXF8, but I dont use it as a master so cant help you on that point, bu the AD sounds better in the F, to my ears. I think a little more flexibility in the controller department, though. Master Control Zones MO: 4 MOX: 4 MOXF: 4* *new MASTER mode [PERFORMANCE CONTROL] function allows buttons [1]-[4] to activate/deactivate Internal Zones 1-4; while buttons [9]-[12] activate/deactivate External Zones 1-4 SpaceStation V3, MoxF6,PX5S,Hammond-SK2,Artis7,Stage2-73, KronosX-73,MS Pro145,Ventilator,OB DB1,Lester K Toys: RIP died in the flood of 8/16 1930 Hammond AV, 1970s Leslie 145, 1974 Rhodes Stage
Botanicus Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 If I remember correctly, Bank 9 of the Programs and many Combis are new from the MOX, and I must say there's a lot of nice sounds I use frequently from that bank, especially guitar patches that are very playable. Worth a trip to the store to check them out. I've always been a Korg guy for live work (although still have my S80 which was retired from the studio not too long ago). I bought a Kronos X to replace my Triton. But I'm really liking the MOXF6 and have been gigging with it for the last couple months. Appreciate the (lack of) weight and a different tonality. The Organ and Synth sounds could be better, but I've got a couple Patches that get me through. The MOXF also makes a great companion to my aging Macbook and iPad through USB, blown away by how well it works.
AnotherScott Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 I know the main differences between my MOX and the newer MOXF, mainly 128 polyphony, and the ability to bring n samples via an expansion board. Also simultaneous fx on up to 8 voices instead of 3. And a new mode for the knobs, so that it's easy to get simultaneous volume controls for the different Parts in a Performance (up to 4 Voices). Also, it has the additional voices that were added to the Motif XF (the MOX has the earlier XS sound set). Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-)
CEB Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 I think it depends on the player. For me it is not worth an upgrade because I friggin' hate having to recreate all my performance setups. A big reason it will take a lot to get rid of the S90XS. I don't want to rebuild all my setups. But the new Kronos 2-88 looks really bitchin'. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt
EscapeRocks Posted December 3, 2014 Author Posted December 3, 2014 I think it depends on the player. For me it is not worth an upgrade because I friggin' hate having to recreate all my performance setups. A big reason it will take a lot to get rid of the S90XS. I don't want to rebuild all my setups. But the new Kronos 2-88 looks really bitchin'. Ain't that the truth. I often think if I am going to have to recreate all my setups on a board, it might as well be on something new and shiny, rather than just an upgraded version of what I already have. It's seems just as I get everything setup the way I want, my GAS kicks in.... dang it!! Yeah, after seeing the news release on the new Kronos, I started to get that bad sensation up and down my spine I love my FA08 as a main piano board for various reasons, so if I go that route, it'd be the Kronos 6. David Gig Rig:Yamaha CK88 | Arturia Keylab 61mk2 | Mainstage
AnotherScott Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 I often think if I am going to have to recreate all my setups on a board, it might as well be on something new and shiny, rather than just an upgraded version of what I already have. I think the MOXF can read MOX data, if not natively, then at least with the John Melas software, so you should be able to import your MOX setups onto the MOXF without having to recreate them. Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-)
EscapeRocks Posted December 3, 2014 Author Posted December 3, 2014 I often think if I am going to have to recreate all my setups on a board, it might as well be on something new and shiny, rather than just an upgraded version of what I already have. I think the MOXF can read MOX data, if not natively, then at least with the John Melas software, so you should be able to import your MOX setups onto the MOXF without having to recreate them. Quiet!! You're not helping!!! LOL (I have the Melas software.... hmmmmm..) David Gig Rig:Yamaha CK88 | Arturia Keylab 61mk2 | Mainstage
CEB Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 I have to get that software. I have had enough of manually rearranging the Master Mode queue everytime the Pop band changes the setlists. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt
EscapeRocks Posted December 3, 2014 Author Posted December 3, 2014 I have to get that software. I have had enough of manually rearranging the Master Mode queue everytime the Pop band changes the setlists. It is truly the best aftermarket software I've ever purchased. I use it at least before every gig. It simply elevates Mastermode to another level. Being able to change order instantly is just one thing. Importing voices from one are to another, or between setlists is another very nice feature. Then, besides my jump drive, it's also a nice backup saved on my MacBook. David Gig Rig:Yamaha CK88 | Arturia Keylab 61mk2 | Mainstage
Sam Mullins Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 I know the main differences between my MOX and the newer MOXF, mainly 128 polyphony, and the ability to bring n samples via an expansion board. Also simultaneous fx on up to 8 voices instead of 3. I went from the mox6 to the moxf6 and this was one of the more helpful improvements. I had a few songs with more than 3 splits that needed their own insert effect. I was able to move all of my stuff without the melas software. I know I had to do a couple non-obvious intermediate steps,but I don't remember the details. You shouldn't have any problem with the melas software. Frankly part of the appeal for me was to satisfy some GAS (new sounds, flash expandability) without having to redo all my old stuff and learn a new OS. Would rather work on music And I love master mode. Yamaha CK88, Arturia Keylab 61 MkII, Moog Sub 37, Yamaha U1 Upright, Casio CT-S500, Mac Logic/Mainstage, iPad Camelot, Spacestation V.3, QSC K10.2, JBL EON One Compact www.stickmanor.com There's a thin white line between fear and fury - Stickman
blong5150 Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 I have to get that software. I have had enough of manually rearranging the Master Mode queue everytime the Pop band changes the setlists. It is truly the best aftermarket software I've ever purchased. I use it at least before every gig. It simply elevates Mastermode to another level. Being able to change order instantly is just one thing. Importing voices from one are to another, or between setlists is another very nice feature. Then, besides my jump drive, it's also a nice backup saved on my MacBook. FYI - You do have to get the MOXF version of the Melas software as the MOX version doesn't work. However, he does cut you a pretty good discount if you own another version. Roland Jupiter 80, Roland FA-08, Yamaha MOXF6, Nektar Impact LX61, Macbook Air
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