mate stubb Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 For the first time ever, I have to board one of my consoles in my garage over the winter. I'm not worried about cold because I know it can survive that, but I do worry about damp and rust. The garage is not heated but is attached to the house so temps can be on either side of freezing. Is a dehumidifier recommended for this situation, and can it work below freezing? Moe ---
CEB Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 60 W light bulb will do what you need. Just make sure it does not make contact with anything that can ignite. Just in case I would set out some mouse poison if you have to store speaker cabs in the garage also. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt
Joe Muscara Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 60 W light bulb will do what you need. Just make sure it does not make contact with anything that can ignite. My dad used to do that with his rifles in an old wooden gun case in the basement. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI
CEB Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 I have a B3 and 2 leslies in my garage. My house is about 150 yards from 1000 acre empty corn field. Mice are my biggest fear. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt
JohnDoe Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Make a simple dehumifider: get a bucket or two or three, place a strainer-sifter on the bucketrim, fill it up with calcium-chlorid flakes, the sort you spread on dusty roads. The salt will absorb the damp in the air and a saltyfluid will drop down in the bucket. I have that in my unheated summerhouse during winter, works OK. "This is my rig, and if you don´t like it....well, I have others!" "Think positive...there's always something to complain about!"
Lone Stranger Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Make a simple dehumifider: get a bucket or two or three, place a strainer-sifter on the bucketrim, fill it up with calcium-chlorid flakes, the sort you spread on dusty roads. The salt will absorb the damp in the air and a saltyfluid will drop down in the bucket. I have that in my unheated summerhouse during winter, works OK. This. An ordinary refrigerant type dehumidifier won't do anything in cold temperatures so the calcium method is your best bet. PCLinuxOS user
mate stubb Posted November 27, 2014 Author Posted November 27, 2014 Thanks guys, great advice. Moe ---
The Real MC Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 A simple potato will also absorb humidity. Just make sure you replace them periodically.
mate stubb Posted November 27, 2014 Author Posted November 27, 2014 Are you guys putting the light bulbs and potatoes inside the console? Don't know if I can even buy an incandescent bulb any more. Moe ---
stoken6 Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 In the UK you can still get vibration-tolerant incandescent bulbs - they're called "rough service". Might be a good investment. Cheers, Mike
J. Dan Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 For the first time ever, I have to board one of my consoles in my garage over the winter. I'm not worried about cold because I know it can survive that, but I do worry about damp and rust. The garage is not heated but is attached to the house so temps can be on either side of freezing. Is a dehumidifier recommended for this situation, and can it work below freezing? I should maybe know this after all these years.....but where do you live? It makes a big difference. Someone from Houston will give different advice than someone from Phoenix. Dan Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth.
The Real MC Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Well, potatoes don't require electricity.
mate stubb Posted November 27, 2014 Author Posted November 27, 2014 I'm in Iowa. We are fairly serious in the winter department here. Moe ---
RobP2 Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 I have some gear kept in our shed - it's a large shed, lined but still feels a bit damp. So I bought one of those cheap electric towel drier rails and leave it on in there. They are very cheap to run and it keeps the place nicely dry Remember - you can make a record without an organ on it, but it won't be as good www.robpoyton.co.uk
JeffLearman Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 One winter in Ann Arbor MI, I kept my Rhodes in a garage, one where one or two cars regularly pulled out and back in. In the 35 years I've owned it, that one winter put more age on it than all the others combined. The corners all rusted and the coils visibly aged. The coils seemed to accumulate some kind of whitish powder, which I was able to gently rub off with a toothbrush, but the mylar wrappings took a bit of a hit too. That was in 1987-8. Now it looks in great shape for its age, but it went from looking nearly brand new inside (with dust, of course) to how it looks now, in just one winter. While I'd gigged it regularly for various spells, it almost never sat in the car overnight (I always took advantage of band members on hand for load-out!) Often-used garages are nasty places, with wide swings in temperature and humidity. I'd definitely seal it as well as you can, wrapping it in plastic or something.
Delaware Dave Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 The heat of a light bulb, while an excellent idea, will also attract mice and such looking for warmth. 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band
hurricane hugo Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 is this garage on the motorway? http://blip.fm/invite/WorkRelease
Bossbandbob Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 I use one of these in my unheated summer house in MA winters- which can be pretty bad. I wrap my M3 in a tarp, ,throw this inside and have had no issues for 4 years. It's in a well sealed concrete basement so no mice but I,d keep plenty of mice poison in it in a garage and keep wet vehicles away from it. wand Hammonds:1959 M3,1961 A-101,Vent, 2 Leslies,VB3/Axiom, Casio WK-7500,Yamaha P50m Module/DGX-300 Gig rig:Casio PX-5S/Roland VR-09/Spacestation V3 http://www.petty-larceny-band.com
bill bosco Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 what about a box or two of baking soda ?
WesG Posted December 1, 2014 Posted December 1, 2014 Is the issue here condensation from temperature swings? If so, I may offer two observations: 1. Stuff in my garage rusts if I leave the toolboxes (etc) open 2. Stuff in my workshop doesn't The workshop is part of the garage building, but is insulated and vapour-barriered as though the garage was "outdoors". It's about 170 square feet. The garage is unheated and used as a garage in the winter. I left a T500 and a Romance 125 in there last winter, you'd never know they weren't stored indoors. Wes Hammond: L111, M100, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, D152, C3, B3 Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 22H, 31H Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85, DX9 Roland: VR-09, RD-800
RABid Posted December 1, 2014 Posted December 1, 2014 Light bulbs also draw spiders. I've killed two black widows in my garage and spiders congregate at every little light, including the light beam from my security system that goes across the garage door. This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page
mate stubb Posted December 1, 2014 Author Posted December 1, 2014 I have learned a lot in this thread, but for me the problem was averted when my wife gave up space in her dining room and living room for 2 organs. They come in the house today. Yeah, think I'll keep her. Moe ---
mate stubb Posted December 1, 2014 Author Posted December 1, 2014 Eager garage dwellers scratching at the door. http://www.hotrodmotm.com/images/hammond/eager_garage_dwellers.png Moe ---
WesG Posted December 1, 2014 Posted December 1, 2014 Nice! Which one came with the matching coffee table? BTW did you ever get that shrill-generator B3 with the Goff cap kit fixed? Wes Hammond: L111, M100, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, D152, C3, B3 Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 22H, 31H Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85, DX9 Roland: VR-09, RD-800
jpgxk3 Posted December 1, 2014 Posted December 1, 2014 http://www.westmarine.com/dehumidifiers These products work, but should be monitored from time to time. Joe.
mate stubb Posted December 1, 2014 Author Posted December 1, 2014 Nice! Which one came with the matching coffee table? BTW did you ever get that shrill-generator B3 with the Goff cap kit fixed? Wes No, it's the chop in the recording studio. Right now it is paired to a nice 122 which seems to tame it down some. Moe ---
RABid Posted December 1, 2014 Posted December 1, 2014 I've been thinking about putting a mini-split heat pump in my garage. I have one in the bonus room above it and it has been great. This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page
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