bass tab needed

[bbirch]

I cannot fin the tabs for winners and losers by social distortion anywhere . can anyone help me please.

[EddiePlaysBass]

Tab is bad, learn to play by ear, all tabs are wrong etc. Now that we have that out of the way ... Google and other search engines really ARE user friendly: try "social distortion winners losers bass tab" and the third result (for me) leads you to a bass tab. Whether said tab is correct or not is up to you to find out

 

And seriously, do try and learn songs by ear, too. It will help in the long run.

 

 

 

[Ross Brown]

Welcome. Tab can get you on the road to learning a song but still use your ears.... As EPB says, they are often wrong.... I find them useful but not entirely reliable.

[jeremy c]

I look at tab occasionally to get a start on songs. Then I fix things. Nearly all tab that I see has errors in it and tab doesn't show the rhythms, so you have to learn those by ear anyway.

 

Remember that tab on the we is written by people just like you. Maybe they are one year more advanced than you are, but they figured out (sort of) a song by ear and posted their tab online.

 

I remember in my 20's, I spent hours and hours sitting in my room with my bass and listening to the radio. I played along with everything and if I couldn't figure out a song, I'd get another chance at it and hour or two later when it played again.

 

Put in the work and it will really pay off. Now I get gigs because I can walk on stage and play with nearly anyone with no rehearsal.

 

 

[Imogene]

I would say that not only is tab worthless, its also harmful in the long run to rely on that nonsense. Eddie's post I agree with and Jeremy's post is spot on. "Put in the work and it will really pay off." Words of wisdom. Regardless of what you may be talking about, bass or otherwise.

[bbirch]

I hear ya, I was trying to take a short cut. but I realize shortcuts are not always the best way to go,

thanks for the help/tips

[tim stocklin]

iv'e been looking for either tabs or music to the Moon's "Something Soon", feat. Paul Weller, can't find a scap of info anywhere

[duff beer]

I would say that not only is tab worthless, its also harmful in the long run to rely on that nonsense. Eddie's post I agree with and Jeremy's post is spot on. "Put in the work and it will really pay off." Words of wisdom. Regardless of what you may be talking about, bass or otherwise.

I have used tabs in the past when I suddenly have to learn 20 songs in a week and am pressed for time. But, I do agree that the majority of them are useless and I will normally avoid them.

 

A much better option if you do need help is to find youtube videos of bassists playing along to songs. There are a lot of good bass players on Youtube that can play songs accurately. It's definitely a time saver.

 

This guy gets a lot of it right, and he has hundreds of songs on his site:

 

[Imogene]

I'm at the point in my development that if I can hear it in my head, I can usually play it. You tube has an mp3 converter website that you can convert any video to an mp3.

 

I have an mp3 player and if I'm not familiar with a song, I'll listen to it. Over and over if need be. I'll eventually get it.

 

I don't read very well, and I don't do tab. I'll transcribe stuff in the Nashville number thing if necessary because I can see the outline and do the rest in my head, regardless of key sig. So yeah, that's my crutch. But there is no substitute for actually listening, I mean REALLY listening to music.

[Michele C.]

Some hints to learn how to grasp a song, for playing or transcribing.

Do not try to transcribe a song, transcribe a beat, instead. This is the lesson I learned from one of my teachers. Listen to a beat, sing it, then you can play it or transcribe it.

Some programs allow for easy placement of loop points in a music file, I think of QuickTime and of the very useful Capo (on Mac). Capo displays an analysis of the spectrum and shows the notes that are probably there as a cloud.

On the iPad it is even easier, you can use the free version of AudioStretch.

I found out that limiting oneself one beat at a time and trying to sing it before playing it, makes unnecessary to slow down. Slowing down too much is not so helpful: you cannot learn tennis in slow motion.

Listening is very powerful, but needs to be done with awareness, much like wine tasting: everybody has taste and might like wine, but with training you can make your taste a very precise instrument.

So, for example, it is listening to tell you if the second D in the famous bass line for Come Together is still on 10th fret or an open string.

[Michele C.]

I remember in my 20's, I spent hours and hours sitting in my room with my bass and listening to the radio. I played along with everything and if I couldn't figure out a song, I'd get another chance at it and hour or two later when it played again.

 

 

That was a great school indeed. It taught me one more thing: I do not have perfect pitch. When I hear something I can sing it, of course, but have no idea of what note it is.

When I have the bass in my hands, I hear a note and most of the times I play it right, don't know how or why.

Still, to see what note it is I look at the fretboard.

[Tattoo]

This guy gets a lot of it right, and he has hundreds of songs on his site:

 

 

He's got the right notes, but his playing is really bad.

Timing is way off and no dynamics.

[EddiePlaysBass]

I'm putting my money where my mouth is, and have just started working on "Pilgrim" by Uriah Heep. The basic outline (i.e. chords) is fairly easy to figure out, but Gary Thain used to do some pretty interesting, jazzy stuff which is out of my comfort zone (and therefore makes for excellent study material). Back to the shed!

[duff beer]

He's got the right notes, but his playing is really bad.

Timing is way off and no dynamics.

That may be, but some people just need a little help getting the right notes...they may already have good timing and dynamics. I'm in 3 bands and am constantly balancing my time with the bands, work, family, etc., so when I need to learn a more difficult song, I choose to maximize the efficiency by learning the notes as quickly as possible by various methods and then I play along to the recording to get it "right".

[Tattoo]

He's got the right notes, but his playing is really bad.

Timing is way off and no dynamics.

That may be, but some people just need a little help getting the right notes...they may already have good timing and dynamics. I'm in 3 bands and am constantly balancing my time with the bands, work, family, etc., so when I need to learn a more difficult song, I choose to maximize the efficiency by learning the notes as quickly as possible by various methods and then I play along to the recording to get it "right".

I agree, use them when you need to.

Not everyone can instantly play the things hearing in once head. Or remember every single note of a whole concert by hearing it only once, witch is what Jaco Pastorius did just before joining Wayne Cochran.

 

The video's of the guy are prime examples of how not to play.

[Cthulhu Fhtagn]

TALE FROM THE CRYPT ONE:

 

Back when I was playing in one of my old projects (Bitch'n'Moan), the lead and the rhythm would use tabs. I was trying to follow along and noticed that one of the songs, the second guit was using an G-C-D progression and the lead was using a G-A-D progression. Well, since everyone was so damned loud, no one could hear that fact that the progressions were off. I caught on by watching finger position (HINT).

 

Believe it or not, they were using two different tabs from the same tab site. During the break, I actually listened to the song (HINT) and determined the second guit was in the wrong. When we came back from break, I mentioned this to the second, and he IMMEDIATELY corrected me by showing me the tab. Would have went straight to hell before actually listening to the song.

 

Tabs are like recreational drugs. A little one in a while can get those creative juices flowing. Become too reliant on them, and you end up 31 years old, living in your mom's basement, watching free internet porn and playing the same eight song (incorrectly) over and over again.

 

TALE FROM THE CRYPT TWO:

 

A couple of projects ago, I was in what I called "Project Doomed". It was doomed for several reasons. We were on our third or fifth guit and we were covering some song by Seether, or Weezer, or something like that. Singer was having an awful time singing it. My recommendation? Change the key from A to C and see what the singer could do. New Guit refused based on the "changing of the key was not in the spirit of the song" or some screed like that. I looked at him and stated "You can't play this in anything but an open chord, can you? Did you memorize a tab, or memorize hand position on a YOUBOOB video?"

 

Turns out that 1) no, he couldn't play it on anything other than an open chord and 2) he HAD spend a lot of time watching video and memorizing hand position.

 

Memorizing video is great if you plan on hiring that lead singer to front your band, otherwise, sooner or later you will need to change a key or modulate during a song. You show up all puffed up and big'n'bad with your Gibson and your Marshall and you don't even know your instrument, so you flip everyone else grief for outing you.

 

CONCLUSIONS:

 

Tabs and video is fine in small doses to help you over the occasional hump, but nothing ... NOTHING ... takes the place of being able to read standard notation, having a trained ear, and knowing how to play your damned instrument.

[EddiePlaysBass]

Tabs are like recreational drugs. A little one in a while can get those creative juices flowing. Become too reliant on them, and you end up 31 years old, living in your mom's basement, watching free internet porn and playing the same eight song (incorrectly) over and over again.

 

I'm 33, but other than that you nailed it