JulianJ Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 All, I would like to construct a cable to connect a Vent 2 directly to the 11 pin socket on my Organ. A suitable cable for the Vent 1 is described on Neo Instruments website http://www.neo-instruments.de/en/ventilator-downloads Would the same speed switching configuration be suitable for the Vent 2 ? ie; 11-pin connector pin 5 to the sleeve on the 6,3mm stereo plug (Control GND) 11-pin connector pin 7 to the ring on the 6,3mm stereo plug (Fast) 11-pin connector pin 8 to the tip on the 6,3mm stereo plug (Slow) If so, which 'Mode' should the Vent be programmed to, Mode 3 ?? Thank you in advance for any help, Kind Regards Julian
CEB Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Which organ? You may need a 12V power supply to send voltage to the organ's leslie socket to tell it that there is a leslie connected. I recomend the cable has it's own power supply. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt
CEB Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Do you own a Vent2? If not buy your Vent2 from Ashby Solutions and Bruce wil fabricate the cable for your. Making this cable is sort of a pain in the rear. Bruce only builds these for people who get their Vents from Ashby because making them is a pain in the butt. He does a good job on these. I don't remember the price. I THINK my 16' cable was around $100. It was money week spent. PS - Do this wrong and can tear up your clone. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt
JulianJ Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 Hi, Am in the UK, so purchasing from Ashby is not an option unfortunately. I'm using a KeyB, works fine with an 11 pin leslie at the moment & doesn't need the 12V power supply back to the organ. Any further help much appreciated! Kind Regards Julian
Six-string-man Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 I too am in the UK, and have bought a couple of things from Ashby Solutions. Excellent quality, and quick delivery. Highly recommended. Answers emails quickly too. SSM Occasionally, do something nice for a total stranger. They'll wonder what the hell is going on!
mobi Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 If so, which 'Mode' should the Vent be programmed to, Mode 3 ?? If you refer to "remote" modes , I guess 9 clock position ( same as CU-1 halfmoon), besides, If you're asking about "switch modes" I guess mode 1 (122 style) default mode, should work
Delaware Dave Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Hi, Am in the UK, so purchasing from Ashby is not an option unfortunately. Why not? SSM is also in the UK and he has purchased from Ashby so not sure what your restriction is to purchase from them. It's not because you are in the UK ..... 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band
Doerfler Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Hi, Am in the UK, so purchasing from Ashby is not an option unfortunately. Julian Why? sorry, seemed to cross post with one or two others
CEB Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Hi, Am in the UK, so purchasing from Ashby is not an option unfortunately. I'm using a KeyB, works fine with an 11 pin leslie at the moment & doesn't need the 12V power supply back to the organ. Any further help much appreciated! Kind Regards Julian Do you already have the cable to test this on the KeyB? If you are talking about using an 11-pin leslie cabinet then yes the Leslie supplies the voltage to pin 11. A Vent doesn't provide the detection voltage and that is why the cable needs a 12v power supply ..... But I do not know anything about Key-B. I only play Hammonds. Without this voltage my XK33c would not recognize that there is something connected to the leslie socket and in the internal sim would still be operational. I would contact Neo. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt
JulianJ Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 Bruce only builds these for people who get their Vents from Ashby because making them is a pain in the butt. I already have the Vent, so based on your above post it's unfortunately not an option to purchase a cable from Ashby. It's a real shame as 11 pin Amphenol plugs & leads are very expensive in the UK. Do you have a photo of the cable supplied? Kind Regards Julian
JulianJ Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 If you refer to "remote" modes , I guess 9 clock position ( same as CU-1 halfmoon), besides, If you're asking about "switch modes" I guess mode 1 (122 style) default mode, should work Thanks Mobi, I appreciate the clarification. Kind Regards Julian
JulianJ Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 I only play Hammonds. Without this voltage my XK33c would not recognize that there is something connected to the leslie socket and in the internal sim would still be operational. I would contact Neo. Thanks CEB, The KeyB sends the signal from the internal leslie sim to the 1/4" jacks, it sends a 'straight' signal to the 11 pin socket. I'm waiting to hear back from Neo on the pinouts. Kind Regards Julian
JulianJ Posted November 20, 2014 Author Posted November 20, 2014 Success! Neo confirmed the cable detailed on their website would be OK, so I soldered one together last night & can confirm the Vent 2 works perfectly with the KeyB's 11 pin socket. It doesn't require the 12v feed back to the Organ. The various 'modes' were left at the default factory setting & everything works a treat! Kind Regards Julian
jpgxk3 Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Nice work Julian. So does the Vent 2 make a big difference with the Key B organ?? I've only heard the Key B via some great recordings by Alberto Marsico and Pat Bianchi on youtube and the KB sounds amazing on its own. My Sk2 needs the Vent (1) to make it "pop". Seems the KB doesn't need any help, unfortunately no KB's here in the states to try out. Enjoy the rig, Joe.
JulianJ Posted November 21, 2014 Author Posted November 21, 2014 Thanks Joe, The main difference between the Vent & the KeyB's internal sim is the 'adjustability' of the Vent. The 'drive' is perhaps a little but nicer on the Vent, but for me it's the ability to adjust the balance & mic distances that I like most. I guess we all have our own preferences and opinions of how a Leslie should sound & the Vent gives you the 'fine tuning' to tailor the sound to your own liking. The only drawbacks with the Vent are the price (!) & the added cabling required. Enjoy the SK2! Kind Regards Julian
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