B34ME Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 Anyone ever hear or play a B-3 with a Leslie on each side of it? Other than extra volume, are there other sound advantages of this dual Leslie set up? Thanks.
mate stubb Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 Yes, you are sitting in the cradle of swirl. Moe ---
B34ME Posted November 11, 2014 Author Posted November 11, 2014 And I assume that's a great sonic experience?
lightbg Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 It's the most fun you can have with your clothes on Jake 1967 B-3 w/(2) 122's, Nord C1w/Leslie 2101 top, Nord PedalKeys 27, Nord Electro 4D, IK B3X, QSC K12.2, Yamaha reface YC+CS+CP "It needs a Hammond"
RudyS Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 Derek Sherinian has som experience. He posted his twin leslie setup. You can find it here: https://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2598396/1 Rudy
zukskywalker Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 A compromise yes, but I just recently scored on two 120's that I will be Frankensteining soon. Already have the horns, upper drivers, and plywood lower rotors. Have yet to decide on amps and this thread helps tons. Love the Bassman's but weight is a consideration. Once upon a time gigged with two 147's...indescribable.
mate stubb Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 The spinning wall of leslie death http://www.hotrodmotm.com/sounds/roadbox/decimator.jpg Moe ---
Theo Verelst Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 Since "someone" posted some double Lesie one some Kurzweil related forum long ago, a certain "Dual Leslie" effect has gathered some fame in the updated PC series Kurzweils. Something to think about is that real Leslies are seldom put in series, usually in parallel. That has consequences for how the sound fills the space, the series connection (so picking up one Leslie unit's output with microphones and amplifying that into another Leslie box) has effect on the amount of frequency "warble", and might sound not as good! R.
mate stubb Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 Something to think about is that real Leslies are seldom never put in series, usually always in parallel. Fixed. Moe ---
Threadslayer Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 Something to think about is that real Leslies are seldom never put in series, usually always in parallel. Fixed. Much better. Thank you. Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain
JulianJ Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 How would you wire two 145's to a B3? Is there a commercially available adapter or would a bespoke item have to be made?
mate stubb Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 I would hesitate to give advice on that in public because you are using 120 VAC and the skill of the listener is unknown. Commercial adapters are available for both 145/147 type switching and 122 type switching. If you are electrically skilled you can also roll your own. Hooking multiple 145s is a matter of having 2 paralleled plugs, PROVIDING your power wiring is stout enough to handle the current (no cheap thin zip wire) Moe ---
The Real MC Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 At one time I used to own two 760s. I got the 2nd one to keep in the practice room to minimize carting between gigs. Never did try both at the same time.
Legatoboy Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 From Dennis Wage's pages: http://hammondb3organ.net/Images/NewB3pics/B3-52.JPG CP-50, YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, Kurzweil SP6, XK-3, CX-3, Hammond XK-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122
WesG Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 A friend used to play with two 122s and a 31H. Apparently it was to die for. Wes Hammond: L111, M100, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, D152, C3, B3 Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 22H, 31H Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85, DX9 Roland: VR-09, RD-800
delete Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 Approximately 35yrs ago when playing the organ at my local church, we had a Lowrey Organ (3 registers, two octave foot pedals) hooked up to two 147 Leslies. God forbid (pun intended) that we ever used the Tremelo! It was Chorus full time and when I put the pedal to the floor (Volume) and played "full organ", it sounded amazing....at least that's how I remember....
TommyS Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 Had that setup at a festival in Canada. Amazing!
Derek Sherinian Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 The stereo Leslies are great obviously for the wall of sound, but it also serves the purpose of a back up- the odds of blowing up 2 in one show are high- but also I have a Boss DDL-2 that I use at the end of my pedal chain that splits stereo into my two amps- this gives a very nice stereo vibe that is great to hear
Daniel Wade Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 I set up and ran PA and video feed for a church one time that had a full gospel choir and a Hammond B3 ( I believe ) with twin Leslies. The Leslies were stage left and right on each side of the choir and the gentleman playing was incredible on pedals and keys. All I can say is it was hard to concentrate on my job because I was amazed how incredible it sounded especially when it was cranked along with the choir belting it out in an acoustically wonderful church. It wasn't really a wall of sound, but more like being enveloped in a fat, full, warm, swirling sound. PA was really unnecessary, they really just needed the live audio feed for the video production they were doing. Playing a setup like that in a place like that, would definitely be an awesome experience, or even just hearing someone who really knows how to play that setup in a building like that would be incredible also. Worthy of a keyboard players bucket list.
ademus Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 Played in a band for 1 year, playing my Xk system through a 3300 stage left and a speakeasy road box convertible,stage right. Nothing like it. I've always been an introvert on stage. That is until my own little Leslie "wall of death". Lol Out came the kilt, the logging boots and many failed, but entertaining Steve Walsh handstands. The pinnacle of many years playing in bands.
HammondDave Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 You can never have enough... '55 and '59 B3's; Leslies 147, 122, 21H; MODX 7+; NUMA Piano X 88; Motif XS7; Mellotrons M300 and M400’s; Wurlitzer 206; Gibson G101; Vox Continental; Mojo 61; Launchkey 88 Mk III; Korg Module; B3X; Model D6; Moog Model D
Jazzmammal Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 No kidding. I was the same back in the day, I traveled with two 122's until we ran out of room in our 3/4 ton Dodge Maxi van. I sold one and modded the other. I've never had anything that compared to having two 122's. There's a pic somewhere of Sly Stone set up with a wall of Leslies, like 8 or something. As Cheech said, did you see God when you heard that? Bob Hammond SK1, Mojo 61, Kurzweil PC3, Korg Pa3x, Roland FA06, Band in a Box, Real Band, Studio One, too much stuff...
rod76 Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 The following is not a paid advertisement. I just came across this Leslie in the local classifieds and thought of this thread. http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDc3MA==/z/KUcAAOSwI-BWJ776/$_27.JPG "We now return you to your regularly scheduled topic"
bennyray Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 I had 2 147's back in the mid 70's that is used when i was playing a house gig and it sounded great. Really miss that incredible sound of those leslies.
WesG Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Local classifieds...are you in Gatineau, Rod? I saw that last week. Almost lost my lunch. Wes Hammond: L111, M100, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, D152, C3, B3 Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 22H, 31H Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85, DX9 Roland: VR-09, RD-800
rod76 Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Hello Wes. I'm in Montreal and the Leslie cab (200$) is in LaSalle, one of its boroughs.
Joe Muscara Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 The Leslie 45 I have almost endured the same fate. The guy who had it thought it was a nice cabinet and was going to gut it when I found out about it. The previous owner told him it was no good because it was smoking, but it was just the dust burning off of the motors. Whew! "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI
S_Gould Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 I think the coolest sound I ever heard was when I routed all the background vocals to a pair of Leslie 147s on either side of the stage (I won't bore you with the long story of how this came about - it was more than 25 years ago anyway).
OB Dave Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 How would you wire two 145's to a B3? With 147-type amps you can buy or build a Y-cable that simply splits each of the 6 pins into two destinations. I do it all the time with my 145s. A number of companies make a "power relay" which takes some of the current load off the console. I've encountered no ill effects, but don't come to me if you burn your house down.
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