richard Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 can anyone recommend a small dynamic or hypercardiod mike that can be mounted on a headset with decent sound and feedback rejection? Its for an instrumentalist who who also sings but doesn't stay in one place long enough to use a normal mic - its mostly for live use even a radio mic might be of intetest... reletively inexpensive is good! Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franknputer Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I've seen a few - not my favorite mics to use, but they can work. AKG makes one that's not too bad, although I don't like the headset itself. My first bit of advice, however, is - DON'T think cheap. Headset mics are very small condensers, and you really get what you pay for with those. Better to plan on spending as much as you can to expect the best results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarf Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I'm with Christopher on this one, if you buy cheap you get cheap. How much feedback rejection do you need? The king of rejection is probably the Crown CM-311A. It can come wired with an XLR or unterminated so you can wire with the connector of choice for wireless applications. -- Rob I have the mind of a criminal genius.....I keep it in the freezer next to mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where02190 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Of all the ones I've used (which is probably most of them) the only ones that were worth a damn were the crowns. If they're going to move around, wireless is the way to go. It's not going to be cheap. get a high quality multichannel UHF system, such as shure or Sennheiser. If this person is a drummer or percussionist, forget it. even with a great mic, the constant bleed of the drums shifting makes getting any clarity fo them ( the drums) practically impossible. Hope this is helpful. NP Recording Studios Analog approach to digital recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franknputer Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Well, it's doable with a drummer but there are going to be compromises. Lee Flier's drummer uses a headset, but it works OK for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeronyne Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Originally posted by where02190: Of all the ones I've used (which is probably most of them) the only ones that were worth a damn were the crowns.I'd have to agree with that. I've tried the Shure, AKG, AT and Crown, and I'd have to say that the Crown is the best in terms of functionality. Coming from me, that is definitely an endorsement, as I did not support the company philosophy (before they were bought out). "For instance" is not proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantasticsound Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Originally posted by Dwarf: I'm with Christopher on this one, if you buy cheap you get cheap. How much feedback rejection do you need? The king of rejection is probably the Crown CM-311A. It can come wired with an XLR or unterminated so you can wire with the connector of choice for wireless applications. -- RobFirst, the Crown can is amazing. See Garth Brooks, etc. If you have a Shure wireless that utilizes the mini-XLR, you might ask if they have it pre-wired. It's not on the website, but they used to sell them pre-wired for Shure wireless beltpacks. http://www.capitalcommunications.net/Microphones/cm311.jpg Second, Shure has a high end headset that uses the same element and performs just as well. I believe it's the WH30. It's easiest to find me on Facebook. Neil Bergman Soundclick fntstcsnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where02190 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 that "mini-XLR" is called a Lemo connector. Hope this is helpful. NP Recording Studios Analog approach to digital recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prague Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I've used the AKG's AKG C410 (discontinued, find them used, $100) AKG C420 are still being made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Yeah, as Christopher mentioned, our drummer uses one, the AKG C410. It's never been known to present any problems for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Fiala Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I use the AKG C420, connected to a Pro-Co "cough drop". It's fine. Haven't tried the competing Crown model. Tom F. "It is what it is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarf Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I have the AKG C410, I've been told that I don't need overheads while it's on. It's a bit of a bitch tho' because I turn it on and off as needed. -- Rob I have the mind of a criminal genius.....I keep it in the freezer next to mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russrags Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 I don't know what you're wanting to spend, but presume you want a high end sound. I use a DPA headset that sounds like it's a large diaphram condinser mic, yet it's so small you can't hardly see it. It will work great for Studio Vocals. Check it out: http://www.dpamicrophones.com/eng_pub/ Good Luck, Russ http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-russragsdale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Originally posted by Dwarf: I have the AKG C410, I've been told that I don't need overheads while it's on. Yeah, same deal here. Our drummer leaves his on all the time though - especially when he belches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarf Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Originally posted by Lee Flier: Yeah, same deal here. Our drummer leaves his on all the time though - especially when he belches. I don't need no steenkin' mic when I belch, I just wait for that quiet part of the song... -- Rob I have the mind of a criminal genius.....I keep it in the freezer next to mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Zeronyne, that latest avatar is KILLING me! ROTFL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantasticsound Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Originally posted by where02190: that "mini-XLR" is called a Lemo connector.Why, yes it is! But Shure (at least 4 years ago, when I last sold pro audio gear) called them "mini-xlr" connectors in the dealer cut sheets. Never tried the DPA, Russ.. I'm guessing it's pretty pricey, eh? It's easiest to find me on Facebook. Neil Bergman Soundclick fntstcsnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted January 24, 2004 Author Share Posted January 24, 2004 Thanks for the nfo guys. I really didn't know where to begin on this one... I'll check out the crowns and AKGs. I'm a big fan of DPA mics - but is this mic an omni or cardiod, can you give me a model number? I'm wondering if is something that could be detached and used an instrument mic in the studio... if so that would definitely justify the cost... Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russrags Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Hey Richard, The DPA microphone I use is a model # 4066. I think it's around $600. It's the same mic Bill Clinton used when he said "I've never had sex with that woman." The mic is omni, but comes with an attachment to change the frequency curve so you can modify it in case your dealing with a person with a siblance problem and such. They make a variety of mics, there might be a better one to suit your needs for a mic that doubles as a great studio mic. Keep checking there web site (it doesn't seem to be working very well though), you might try a link to a dealer and look at their site. Have fun, Russ http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-russragsdale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where02190 Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 My experience with both model AKG's mentioned has not been good. far too much bleed, and both elements had a massive high end boost to boot. I recommend staying away from both if it's for a drummer or percussionist. While the beleed is managable if they didn't move, the constant movement creates a constant change in the balance of the bleed. For a front singer/guitarist, etc, they'd be ok provided they stay away from the drums, but the crown smokes them. Hope this is helpful. NP Recording Studios Analog approach to digital recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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