Klavishko Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Hi, guys! This is my blind piano sound test Nord Stage 2 VS Casio PX-5S. Where sound is better? Thanks for listening! Hope on your feedbacks. Please, NO SPOILER! [video:youtube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITGITC Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Not sure about #1, but #2 is definitely the Virus TI2. "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brettymike Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 They sound very much on par IMO , with 2 slightly different timber characteristics - I ticked both boxes. (I will leave off what is wrong with each sound , so there is no spoiler ) Brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe P Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I voted for #1, seemed richer. On #2 I heard an anomaly in the bass string at 3:44 - 3:46, like a volume inconsistency. Very subtle. But to me they both sound great. Regards, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Beaumont Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I voted for #2 because it seemed a tad brighter. But I like both of them. Boards: Kurzweil SP-6, Roland FA-08, VR-09, DeepMind 12 Modules: Korg Radias, Roland D-05, Bk7-m & Sonic Cell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillNeverPost Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Yeah, "best" is entirely relative to what music you want to play. The best sound for a classical piano solo is not the best sound for a salsa montuno! For the record I chose #1 because it seemed better suited to the music played in the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I think I've listened to too many digital piano demos because it was immediately obvious to me which is which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuzikTeechur Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 In a decent pair of headphones, #2 sounded more realistic to me. #1 had a sort of PCM thing going on - sounded a little synthetic. Muzikteechur is Lonnie, in Kittery, Maine. HS music teacher: Concert Band, Marching Band, Jazz Band, Chorus, Music Theory, AP Music Theory, History of Rock, Musical Theatre, Piano, Guitar, Drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicaL Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I think I've listened to too many digital piano demos because it was immediately obvious to me which is which. Ditto Gear: Yamaha MODX8, Mojo 61, NS2 73, C. Bechstein baby grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 No 2 sounds better to me . . . much more concise tone and quality. No 1 isn't bad though and is a bit richer. I actually liked it more in the upper end but overall I think 2 is a bit better! Think I already know which is which.... I own one! CP-50, YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, Kurzweil SP6, XK-3, CX-3, Hammond XK-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMAC Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Hi Folks, both sound close to me, however, I choose No 1. I am certainly interested in the PX-5S, great bang for your buck. Hammond XK3-C; Yamaha Tyros 3; Casio PX-5S; Yamaha DX7 IID; Yamaha DGX 520; Yamaha Stagepas 500 & KS50 (x2) Leslie 147(1971) Lots of other stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverTooLate Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I think I've listened to too many digital piano demos because it was immediately obvious to me which is which. Same here. The Casio from a demo and the Nord from owning one. So of course I'm biased towards the Nord, but there is also some specific quality of (apparently) all Casio piano sounds that I don't like. It's hard to pin down, but there is something unnatural about quite a few notes somewhere in the middle register. Basically when I heard the first note of the first song (I won't tell which version), I thought "oh, there's that Casio sound". Not saying the PX-5s is a bad instrument though, for example the EPs seem quite nice, especially the effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffLearman Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Listening, I prefer #2, but I suspect it's the one I prefer less when I'm actually playing it. #1 sounded more artificial. They both work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I like how 2 changes timbre with softer dynamics. Whether that is the hardware related I don't know. Both products will run a lot of different piano emulations. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianomike Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 They both sound good,I voted for number two because its clearer and a little more vibrant.Niether is as good as my mp 11,na na na na na. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicaL Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I voted for number 2 because the piano is much more detailed and does not suffer from that sort of a CP-80 sound in the middle register. Although Piano 1 is good it is clearly a digital piano. You could not mistake it for the real deal. Piano No. 2 has enough woodiness and air to make it closer to the real deal than Piano 1 (I would say by a significant margin). aL Gear: Yamaha MODX8, Mojo 61, NS2 73, C. Bechstein baby grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawai James Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 #2 for me - more detail, less looping. Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own. Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I Although Piano 1 is good it is clearly a digital piano. You could not mistake it for the real deal. Piano No. 2 has enough woodiness and air to make it closer to the real deal than Piano 1 (I would say by a significant margin). I agree. I found that a good way to do this kind of thing is to put on headphones and imagine you just put on a CD of a new Rick Wakeman album or whoever. That is put yourself in the mindset of specifically expecting it to sound like a quality recording of a real piano. Maybe it's just me, but once I did that, without having to focus on this detail or that, one just struck me overall as arguably real, and the other one as "that's not real, he's playing a digital." Though it was disconcerting that the left and right channels were switched. ;-) A variable not accounted for is that the Casio piano sounds are all based off the same sample set, whereas on the Nord, you can load in pianos based on entirely different piano sets. So if there was something you didn't like in the particular Nord sample used for this test, you might find another Nord sample you'd prefer. So it's not really PX5S vs NS2, but rather PX5S vs. one of numerous possible NS2 pianos. Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Stranger Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 To me they both sound very good. I ended up voting #2 but it was by a very slim margin. #1 sounded slightly more rich while #2 sounded very slightly more natural with the exception of the higher note range where #1 sound a bit more natural. My guess it that #2 would cut through the audio mix better on live gigs. PCLinuxOS user Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedar Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Just listening through my crappy laptop speakers, I prefer number 2. But aside from the poor quality of my laptop speakers, I think that this kind of test could be impacted by the sequence when you hear the sounds. In other words, if I heard one piano in isolation or in comparison to another piano, I might draw different conclusions than if I compare it to a third piano. Kind of like comparing different wines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamanczarek Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I voted for #1. #2 seemed brighter and slightly thinner sounding with wavering on some sustained notes. C3/122, M102A, Vox V301H, Farfisa Compact, Gibson G101, GEM P, RMI 300A, Piano Bass, Pianet , Prophet 5 rev. 2, Pro-One, Matrix 12, OB8, Korg MS20, Jupiter 6, Juno 60, PX-5S, Nord Stage 3 Compact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcazzy Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I prefer number 1 and that is only because I 'think' it sounds more like the PX-5s I use. Knowing that my ears are not the best these days mean that I may be totally off base but that is what it sounds like to me. Both have a great sound in my opinion and I would be satisfied with either. With that being said, I'm glad I didn't have to pay as much for the Casio as I would have for the Nord but even if the price difference was not that much, I'm still a happy camper with the PX-5s. Anyone care to share their opinion of which one is which yet? John Cassetty "there is no dark side of the moon, really. As a matter of fact it's all dark" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa Gherkin Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I voted for #1. #2 seemed brighter and slightly thinner sounding with wavering on some sustained notes. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I think if you listen to this or that particular element, chord, note, whatever, you can find imperfections in either. But I see that as a kind of forest-versus-tree thing. If you step back from the details and just let the whole thing wash over you, despite the flaws, #2 strikes me as a piano, #1 strikes me as a simulation. Though either would get you through most gigs just fine! Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawai James Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Anyone care to share their opinion of which one is which yet? I expect most folks here have a pretty good idea of which is which. However I believe the OP was asking that we don't reveal our opinion (i.e. no spoilers). James x Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own. Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
area51recording Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 They both sound real good IMO....The Nord is what, about 4x+ the cost of the Px5s? I could buy a nice little sound system to take to the gig and STILL have a bunch of $$$ left over. It's really hard to beat the Casio in the bang for the buck dept..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcazzy Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Anyone care to share their opinion of which one is which yet? I expect most folks here have a pretty good idea of which is which. However I believe the OP was asking that we don't reveal our opinion (i.e. no spoilers). James x Ah yes! Went back and read the OP posting. NO SPOILERS! Sorry! John Cassetty "there is no dark side of the moon, really. As a matter of fact it's all dark" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joegerardi Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 No. 2. More resonance and harmonics on the lower strings, less synthetic sounding. ..Joe Setup: Korg Kronos 61, Roland XV-88, Korg Triton-Rack, Motif-Rack, Korg N1r, Alesis QSR, Roland M-GS64 Yamaha KX-88, KX76, Roland Super-JX, E-Mu Longboard 61, Kawai K1II, Kawai K4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six-string-man Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I just think that it's amazing that people are seriously comparing the sound of a $1000 board against a $4500 board. This speaks volumes for the Casio. SSM Occasionally, do something nice for a total stranger. They'll wonder what the hell is going on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markay Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Based on a lo-fi listen I would choose 1 for live pop rock band scenario and 2 for personal playing. 1 sounded brighter, 2 had a little more wood. Interesting others heard it the other way round. I suspect the differences in our playback systems and our individual frequency sensitivity can sometimes be greater than the difference in raw samples. Makes these sort of comparisons pretty meaningless if the majority of voters, for example, had a pretty steep HF roll off in their hearing or little bass on the playback system. A misguided plumber attempting to entertain | MainStage 3 | Axiom 61 2nd Gen | Pianoteq | B5 | XK3c | EV ZLX 12P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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