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Yamaha CP40 - gigged and reviewed


Aidan

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So, after my problems with the CP4, I've been enjoying playing the CP40. Did the first serious gig with it tonight - almost three hours solid on a solo Valentine's gig. No hand issues, I'm glad to report.

 

I still miss the string resonance in the Nord series, but otherwise wouldn't go back. The keyboard feel of the Yamaha is far more expressive and feels more controlled.

 

Only having one sample the CFIIIS - is a little limiting. And it's probably not the best of them in mono. However, using the Mn+ setting, I got through a whole night with a fairly inspiring sound, and none of the thinness which dogs the top end of the Nord samples.

 

In retrospect, I do wonder whether I was just going through a bad phase with my hands, and I'm tempted to revisit the CP4 further down the line. For now, though, the CP40 still sounds good and the extra kilogram weight saving is useful.

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I still miss the string resonance in the Nord series, but otherwise wouldn't go back. The keyboard feel of the Yamaha is far more expressive and feels more controlled.

 

Only having one sample the CFIIIS - is a little limiting. And it's probably not the best of them in mono. However, using the Mn+ setting, I got through a whole night with a fairly inspiring sound, and none of the thinness which dogs the top end of the Nord samples.

 

I don't know if its the love fest I am having with my Stage but I think the piano samples are great. I am wondering if its the sample I am using though. I find I don't use anything else but the Yamaha YS4 XL grand (with the top end turned down a notch) not too keen on the others.

 

Also the action is really nice! Daresay I prefer it to my old Roland GX in many ways if it had a less shiny slippery feel it would be awesome.

 

 

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Interesting Aidan... Thanks for posting.

 

I'm planning to get a digital piano in late 2014 or early 2015, and until I read your other post the CP4 was the lead candidate. Sadly no retailers near me have a CP4 or a CP40 to try out first hand.

 

I'd like to see the cost of the CP40 fall to $1,000, but that's not going to happen. It would make a great replacement for the venerable CP33.

 

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I'm planning to get a digital piano in late 2014 or early 2015, and until I read your other post the CP4 was the lead candidate.

 

Bear in mind that while Aidan's problem was real, he's the only one out of many many more of us that has reported experiencing issues. In other words, don't rule out the CP4 simply because of one man's woes. Most of us love the feel of ours and have no issues.

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+1 on Bobby's observation. As I observed in my post, there's part of me which thinks there may have been some 'perfect storm' happening with the state of my hands and their acquaintance with a CP4 at that particular time.

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Bear in mind that while Aidan's problem was real, he's the only one out of many many more of us that has reported experiencing issues. In other words, don't rule out the CP4 simply because of one man's woes. Most of us love the feel of ours and have no issues.

 

Very true...

 

It's a shame no one stocks either board in my area (at least now). I'd have to buy one via mail order. Same with the Kawai VPC-1.

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I was browsing some online shops yesterday and came across the CP40. It was a customer returned unit and the price, at 853 euros, seemed ridiculously cheap. The info said that it was in good condition, but the box was damaged. So I searched for a new model and found that the price was 1499 euros. Ouch, could not afford that at the time.

 

I've been looking for a weighted board for quite some time, because I'm just using a Kurzweil PC3 and Nord C1. The Kurz is in storage and only comes out for band rehearsals once a week. The C1 is in my living room. Since I got tired of just playing organ at home and noticed my fingers were going a bit weak from playing unweighted actions all the time, I hit the buy button on the used CP40. I hoped for the best, as you never really know how used it actually is, and at that price, I figured it'd be used a lot.

 

I got the board today. The box wasn't nearly damaged as bad as I thought, so I had good hopes for the unit itself. I unpacked it, looked for dents and scratches and could not find anything. Happy! I actually got a good as new CP40 for almost half the price.

 

The last board I owned that had weighted action was a Korg SV1. That was several years ago, and while I'd still love to own one, the Yammy seems to play a lot nicer. The piano sound is definitely a step up from anything I've owned previously. It's really smooth, didn't notice any velocity issues (like the SV1 had). The Rhodes is very nice, and a different flavor from those in my Kurz. I think I still like the ones in the Kurz a bit better, but these are definitely very useable. Same with the Wurly's. The other sounds I really don't care about that much. I could see myself using some pads as a layer, but nothing fancy. The Kurzweil does those sounds better.

 

So, great action, very good piano sounds, very useable Rhodes' and Wurly's. Not a game changer, but at least now I have a very good and inspiring board to play at home.

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Aidan, I feel your pain. I had carpal tunnel surgery on my right wrist/hand in February. Had my left one done last year, so I was familiar with the routine and healing process regarding the time frame. One thing us keyboardist recognize is the fact that the left and right hand play different roles. Sometimes varying roles are more significant depending upon the piece of music.

 

My left hand took some time to heal and was in worse condition than my right initially. I wasn't too worried about it. It finally came around after about 4 months. My right hand, for obvious reasons, worried me. Throughout the spring of this year I really struggled on the CP-4 which I've had since September. I new what it felt like pre-surgery. I was really struggling and really discouraged. It's like I had lost some dexterity. I expected my fingers to do a certain thing but I couldn't quite control them. I also experienced a significant loss of strength, and had substantial soreness. Of course the allotted time for healing was complete. My doctor suggested that practicing keyboard/piano was good therapy. So I was given the green light!

 

Several times I was tempted to put the CP-4 up for sale. I was looking at everything out there, most notably the Nord Piano 2. I just didn't know if my hand would ever fully recover. I kept practicing with no significant improvement. And, something inside would not let me let go of the CP-4. I've really bonded with this board. One thing I remembered my doctor saying was that the healing process in that area of the hands and wrist involve both nerves and tendons/ligaments. He reminded me that I would not notice a difference incrementally (daily or weekly). He said it would be more like monthly. So, what do you know, last week I sat down to practice and all of a sudden it was like I had a brand new hand. Dexterity, strength... It was all there and working.

 

So glad I didn't sell the CP-4!!! I hope things work out for you and the CP-40. I completely understand what you were going through. The CP-4, during that time, felt like it had added weights inside the keys. Now it feels like it did when I first fell in love with it. There's a lot to be said for these things we call hands :).

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Aidan, I feel your pain. I had carpal tunnel surgery on my right wrist/hand in February. Had my left one done last year, so I was familiar with the routine and healing process regarding the time frame. One thing us keyboardist recognize is the fact that the left and right hand play different roles. Sometimes varying roles are more significant depending upon the piece of music.

 

My left hand took some time to heal and was in worse condition than my right initially. I wasn't too worried about it. It finally came around after about 4 months. My right hand, for obvious reasons, worried me. Throughout the spring of this year I really struggled on the CP-4 which I've had since September. I new what it felt like pre-surgery. I was really struggling and really discouraged. It's like I had lost some dexterity. I expected my fingers to do a certain thing but I couldn't quite control them. I also experienced a significant loss of strength, and had substantial soreness. Of course the allotted time for healing was complete. My doctor suggested that practicing keyboard/piano was good therapy. So I was given the green light!

 

Several times I was tempted to put the CP-4 up for sale. I was looking at everything out there, most notably the Nord Piano 2. I just didn't know if my hand would ever fully recover. I kept practicing with no significant improvement. And, something inside would not let me let go of the CP-4. I've really bonded with this board. One thing I remembered my doctor saying was that the healing process in that area of the hands and wrist involve both nerves and tendons/ligaments. He reminded me that I would not notice a difference incrementally (daily or weekly). He said it would be more like monthly. So, what do you know, last week I sat down to practice and all of a sudden it was like I had a brand new hand. Dexterity, strength... It was all there and working.

 

So glad I didn't sell the CP-4!!! I hope things work out for you and the CP-40. I completely understand what you were going through. The CP-4, during that time, felt like it had added weights inside the keys. Now it feels like it did when I first fell in love with it. There's a lot to be said for these things we call hands :).

I think you had PM'd me on piano world forum about my NP2. I'm glad everything worked out and you were able to keep it. I was lucky to find a buyer so quickly and it was the first person who inquired so it all worked out. I'm very much enjoying my CP4.

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