Synthoid Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Some of our forum members have often mentioned their dislike for the DX7... especially its EP sound. I was curious though, if anyone has the same disdain for the D-50 "Fantasia" patch, also over-used in the 80's and early 90's. It doesn't get discussed much. Comments? Any other sounds from the past you hope to never hear again? When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brettymike Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Hi Synthoid , why don't you post a sound demo off yt?. Edit :I think it still sounds wonderful today > Brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brettymike Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I.M.O , one of the nicest songs to ever come out , with an awesome pallet of keyboards and E.P.'s , Michael Bolton's version of "Drift Away" > http://youtu.be/REy4lij9xAM Turn it up real loud . Brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brettymike Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I heard a stunningly beautiful E.P. on a new song some months ago (on the radio in Australia), and do you think I can find it or hear it again? - no sorry. Brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 [video:youtube] Classic Chicago [video:youtube] "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted February 7, 2014 Author Share Posted February 7, 2014 Hi Synthoid , why don't you post a sound demo off yt?. Well, as common as the "Fantasia" patch was, I figured everyone would remember it. I'm also at a cafe with music playing and didn't want to annoy people nearby. Actually, I do like the sound of it (I often miss my D-50). Just curious how others felt. When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 My deal with Fantasia was I never had any use for it. I never covered the right songs. But it was pretty. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Classic Chicago [video:youtube] You're lucky my gun isn't loaded. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
area51recording Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I don't think I'd consider THAT tripefest "Classic Chicago" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brettymike Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Keyboards and E.P's RULE in this brilliant and gorgeous song from Michael Jackson & band > http://youtu.be/4BU7L-wmVCo Brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Any other sounds from the past you hope to never hear again? The shakuhachi patch. I think it's D-50 but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephonic Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Isn't the acoustic piano the most over-used sound? gear list.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Isn't the acoustic piano the most over-used sound? I actually thought about posting the same thing before I scrolled and saw this David Gig Rig:Depends on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Any other sounds from the past you hope to never hear again? The shakuhachi patch. I think it's D-50 but I'm not sure. That one I used in Sledgehammer. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulceLabs.com Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Any other sounds from the past you hope to never hear again? The shakuhachi patch. I think it's D-50 but I'm not sure. Yup... Probably most prominent use was George Michael's "Father Figure"... I do remember hearing the "Fantasia" patch in quite a few ST:TNG episodes. Keith Emerson also used a lot of stock D-50 sounds with "Three". I still have my D-50... use mainly for nostalgic times (ie. anytime I have had more than 2 beers ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Nope. The shakuhachi is from the Emulator library, and may even predate that to the Fairlight. Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icarusi Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Fantasia is quite a clever patch, but it's so particular of it's time, and so often used, it's hard not to make the auto-association. How about 'orchestra hits'. Maybe it's as much the playing style used than the actual sounds themselves. [video:youtube]_O5182ZgoIw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Isn't the acoustic piano the most over-used sound? YES,- and electric guitar treated by the average blues guitarist playing pentatonic blues scale over I / IV / V. I wonder If I should consider Hammond organ too ... A.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I think I also used the D-50 shaku on the slow version of After Midnight. Whichever patch it was it sounded like the record. I left very few presets on it between my own patches, vahalla patches, and liquid crystal. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-missRichardTee Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 What new synths HAVE the D 50 Fantasia? Same question for DX7 rhodes'? I like them both.. over used, yes, but they were used because they sounded nicely. These seeming over reactions, such as Joe Muscara's, ( sorry for singling you out Joe -) ) I wonder where they come from? I wonder why such antipathy for much of the seventies and eighties music? You don't have ideas, ideas have you We see the world, not as it is, but as we are. "One mans food is another mans poison". I defend your right to speak hate. Tolerance to a point, not agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Those synth sounds are *hated* because they were featured on overplayed sappy songs and TV themes that ruled the airwaves for almost a decade. Also, dyed in the wool musos resent those sounds because during that time bands didn't want to hear or help schlep a real Rhodes, Wurli or B3. They figured a DX7 made more sense because it had every sound. Those sounds will never die as the songs are still being played and the TV shows live in reruns on cable. Of course, a new generation of musos are rediscovering and using them too. I wouldn't put it past Pharrell or Bruno Mars to make a record with it. I agree with Moe. That shakahuchi patch came from E-mu. That's a sound I will never use again. PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Tonewheel Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I think the 808 and 909 electronic drum sounds are starting to wear a bit thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phloid Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I.M.O , one of the nicest songs to ever come out , with an awesome pallet of keyboards and E.P.'s , Michael Bolton's version of "Drift Away" > http://youtu.be/REy4lij9xAM Turn it up real loud . Brett Sarcasm right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Overuse predating the DX7 for me would be the ARP Solina/ String Ensemble (slathered liberally on everything from Gary Wright's Dreamweaver to the Eagle's I Can't Tell You Why). .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulceLabs.com Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I agree with Moe. That shakahuchi patch came from E-mu. That's a sound I will never use again. The shak used at the beginning of "Sledgehammer" was the emu.. But the d-50 also had one.. D-50 shak was the one used at the beginning of "Father Figure"... not sure about "After Midnight".. but it sounds more like the D-50 shak than the emu. IMO the emu one was better... seemed to be more expressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundown Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 The FM EP needs to go, along with... Dr. Dre-style analog leads (thin, tweezy Moog and Arp sounds dripping with Portamento) Slap Bass patches (Seinfeld ruined that one) The House Piano (super-compressed, M1-style piano patches) The House Organ (super-compressed, M1-style organ patches) One Note Symphonies / a.k.a. Bands-on-a-Key (Wavestation-style performances that play on one note) Piano/String combis (you can't use the damper pedal) Calliopes Sundown Working on: The Jupiter Bluff; Driven Away Main axes: Kawai MP11 and Kurz PC361 DAW Platform: Cubase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brettymike Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I.M.O , one of the nicest songs to ever come out , with an awesome pallet of keyboards and E.P.'s , Michael Bolton's version of "Drift Away" > http://youtu.be/REy4lij9xAM Turn it up real loud . Brett Sarcasm right? An inversion of sarcasm in reverse? Brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I think I started this mess by posting that I used the D-50 Shaku on Sledgehammer. The D-50 did not exist when So was recorded. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulceLabs.com Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I think I started this mess by posting that I used the D-50 Shaku on Sledgehammer. The D-50 did not exist when So was recorded. Oh great job! Really.. no biggie. No debate the sound was first made on the early samplers... but once the shak sound was able to be "had" cheaply on a rompler was when it got really overused.. to the point it is now included in the GM soundset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torhu Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Neither E.Piano 1 nor Fantasia has much to do with the phenomenon we call "music". Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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