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The DX7 EP patch, and other over-used sounds


Synthoid

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Some of our forum members have often mentioned their dislike for the DX7... especially its EP sound. I was curious though, if anyone has the same disdain for the D-50 "Fantasia" patch, also over-used in the 80's and early 90's. It doesn't get discussed much. Comments?

 

Any other sounds from the past you hope to never hear again? :laugh:

 

 

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Hi Synthoid , why don't you post a sound demo off yt?.

 

Well, as common as the "Fantasia" patch was, I figured everyone would remember it. I'm also at a cafe with music playing and didn't want to annoy people nearby.

 

Actually, I do like the sound of it (I often miss my D-50). Just curious how others felt.

 

 

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My deal with Fantasia was I never had any use for it. I never covered the right songs. But it was pretty.

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Any other sounds from the past you hope to never hear again? :laugh:

 

 

The shakuhachi patch. I think it's D-50 but I'm not sure.

 

That one I used in Sledgehammer.

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Any other sounds from the past you hope to never hear again? :laugh:

 

 

The shakuhachi patch. I think it's D-50 but I'm not sure.

 

Yup... Probably most prominent use was George Michael's "Father Figure"...

 

I do remember hearing the "Fantasia" patch in quite a few ST:TNG episodes. Keith Emerson also used a lot of stock D-50 sounds with "Three".

 

I still have my D-50... use mainly for nostalgic times (ie. anytime I have had more than 2 beers :blush:)

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Fantasia is quite a clever patch, but it's so particular of it's time, and so often used, it's hard not to make the auto-association.

 

How about 'orchestra hits'. Maybe it's as much the playing style used than the actual sounds themselves.

 

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I think I also used the D-50 shaku on the slow version of After Midnight. Whichever patch it was it sounded like the record. I left very few presets on it between my own patches, vahalla patches, and liquid crystal.

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What new synths HAVE the D 50 Fantasia? Same question for DX7 rhodes'? I like them both.. over used, yes, but they were used because they sounded nicely.

These seeming over reactions, such as Joe Muscara's, ( sorry for singling you out Joe -) ) I wonder where they come from?

I wonder why such antipathy for much of the seventies and eighties music?

 

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Those synth sounds are *hated* because they were featured on overplayed sappy songs and TV themes that ruled the airwaves for almost a decade.

 

Also, dyed in the wool musos resent those sounds because during that time bands didn't want to hear or help schlep a real Rhodes, Wurli or B3. They figured a DX7 made more sense because it had every sound. :laugh:

 

Those sounds will never die as the songs are still being played and the TV shows live in reruns on cable.

 

Of course, a new generation of musos are rediscovering and using them too. I wouldn't put it past Pharrell or Bruno Mars to make a record with it.

 

I agree with Moe. That shakahuchi patch came from E-mu. That's a sound I will never use again. :D:cool:

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I agree with Moe. That shakahuchi patch came from E-mu. That's a sound I will never use again. :D:cool:

 

The shak used at the beginning of "Sledgehammer" was the emu.. But the d-50 also had one.. D-50 shak was the one used at the beginning of "Father Figure"... not sure about "After Midnight".. but it sounds more like the D-50 shak than the emu.

 

IMO the emu one was better... seemed to be more expressive.

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The FM EP needs to go, along with...

 

Dr. Dre-style analog leads (thin, tweezy Moog and Arp sounds dripping with Portamento)

 

Slap Bass patches (Seinfeld ruined that one)

 

The House Piano (super-compressed, M1-style piano patches)

 

The House Organ (super-compressed, M1-style organ patches)

 

One Note Symphonies / a.k.a. Bands-on-a-Key (Wavestation-style performances that play on one note)

 

Piano/String combis (you can't use the damper pedal)

 

Calliopes

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I think I started this mess by posting that I used the D-50 Shaku on Sledgehammer. The D-50 did not exist when So was recorded.

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I think I started this mess by posting that I used the D-50 Shaku on Sledgehammer. The D-50 did not exist when So was recorded.

 

Oh great job! :mad:

 

Really.. no biggie. :) No debate the sound was first made on the early samplers... but once the shak sound was able to be "had" cheaply on a rompler was when it got really overused.. to the point it is now included in the GM soundset.

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