Dr88s Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I posted this on the Facebook user's group but received no replies. I'm hoping I have better luck here. Is there any parameter in a stage setting which will automatically set a particular controller to a particular base value unless the controller is touched? Here is the practical implication: if I am on one stage setting and turn my mod wheel three quarters of the way up during use of that setting, then change to, say, an electric piano setting, the tremolo effect is already on from the mod wheel being partway up. Is there anyway I can change the stage setting to ignore the initial position of the mod wheel and treat it as if it is all the way down until I move it? Nord Stage 2 Compact, Yamaha MODX8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Good question. I've noticed this also, but never chased down the answer. Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voxpops Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I turn off the mod wheel on those settings where its use is inappropriate, as I couldn't find a parameter for a base value. You can, however, set minimum and maximum values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr88s Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 That's an easy band-aid solution. Not the ideal but will certainly work. Nord Stage 2 Compact, Yamaha MODX8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefDanG Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Hey, Dr88s- Saw your post at the user group FB page, and I had the same complaint. I went looking for a system setting like "controller lock" or hold or chase.....but to no avail. Ended up doing as Voxpops, disabling mod wheel where practical. I am now trying to be more aware of mod wheel position going from patch to patch. A shortcoming, for sure. Every other keyboard I owned in the recent past, you could choose if controller position followed you from patch to patch, or not. Professional musician = great source of poverty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Dan Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Another bandaid solution: use a MIDi solutions Event Pontroller that sends CC1=0 every time it receives a patch change message. Requires MiDI in and out. Advantage is that it would go to 0 but then jump to mod wheel position when moved. Dan Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr88s Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 Dan(s) Thanks for the replies. It's not such a huge issue as to merit adding extra hardware. It just took me by surprise as I've never noticed this behaviour on any other board I've owned before. Where applicable I'll just create alternate settings with the mod wheel disabled. Nord Stage 2 Compact, Yamaha MODX8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I'm pretty sure that the knobs and sliders *don't* do this, but perhaps the mod wheel does. I think the values of settings for knobs and sliders are whatever you saved, until you touch them. Maybe there's a workaround in that for you? "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa Gherkin Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Yup. I was rudely surprised after playing a nice Wurly with tremolo and switching back to AP. Heard an acoustic piano with a wide warbly Ethel Merman vibrato. Ikkkk. Soon after that I disabled the mod wheel for all AP patches. Nothing says the same thing can't happen with other sounds but on AP it's especially nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulceLabs.com Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Someone posted this today in the FB group... thought I would share it here.. thanks JP for this answer: "If the "Arpeggio Enable" (in the stage setting > zone > controller menu) is the same value in both stage settings, the mod wheel WILL carry over when switching stage settings. If it is enabled in one and disabled in the other, the mod wheel will NOT carry over. I have a "Generic Stage Setting" that has most effects and sends turned off. I copied that into two stage setting slots and put an electric piano in zone one of each. When I switched back and forth between them after turning up the mod wheel, they both modulated. When I changed the "arpeggio enable" value of one of them, the modulation stopped when I switched settings. Modulation did not turn on again until I moved the mod wheel, regardless of how many times I switched between those stage settings. Strangely, this behavior also occurred with a slider set to control the modulation. However, any other effect (like reverb, delay, chorus, etc.) never carried through a stage setting switch. Also note that the arpeggiator didn't need to actually be on (via the arpeggio/select button on the PX-5S), it just had to be enabled in the menu. I'm pretty sure this is not an intentional "feature" of the PX-5S, but it can be exploited like this if you'd rather not have your EP modulate when switching from another one. I do wish that there was a "persistence" parameter for each of the controllers in each stage setting so you could choose to keep the values from the previous stage setting, or reset them. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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