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I'm on break. Picture is no longer available did someone capture it? LOL.

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I'm not sure the picture ever WAS available. But I'll play. Simply put, Roland needs to wake up and realise that the DP game has changed. With the CP4, Yamaha learned important lessons from the likes of Nord and Casio, basically:

 

* It has to weigh in under the 20kg mark and preferably appreciably less;

* It has to be as compact in design as possible, with no extra length added by the control wheels, and no excess cabinetry;

* It has to sound good in mono.

 

If (as I suspect) the 800 turns out to be just another slight upgrade to the bog-standard 25kg RD slab design, then it's a 'meh' from me.

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Soundland.de is one of the countless unimportant shops/dealers in germany advertising BS continuously.

When you look for something new in germany, trust Thomann and Musicstore.

When something appears there,- it´s no vaporware anymore.

 

That said, most products appear on the market here much later than in the US/UK, so I wonder why you search german sites.

 

A.C.

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This seems to have gone under the radar here: the Roland F-20. Compact? Yes. Sound good in mono? No idea. Weight? 44 lbs. Roland fails again.

 

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/F20CB

 

I was in a local music store, and saw the F-20. Basically it's a modern, budget DP interface that collided with a retro, wood cabinet design. Hence the 44 lbs; though it is slim, and was easy to pick up. I liked the look, and overall vibe of the instrument. Has around 30 sounds; some pretty useful gigging stuff, actually. The SuperNatural pianos sound and play great, as usual. It leans toward home use, though, with the only output being a headphone jack.

 

The store had an FP-50, as well. I liked it, a lot. At 37 lbs. it's a more practical, stage piano. The built-in speakers can be turned off by a switch on the back panel. There are L/R 1/4" out; also an 1/8" stereo in. Has MIDI I/O, but no USB B port (The F-20 has USB B, but no MIDI connectors). The sonic layout is similar to the Yamaha CP4, with roughly the same number of sounds.

If Roland took the FP-50 concept - with an expanded / enhanced SN engine, replaced the speakers with a strong, control interface, then marketed it as the new, flagship RD model they'd have a very competitive instrument - especially if they kept the design compact, and the weight down.

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I'm not sure the picture ever WAS available. But I'll play. Simply put, Roland needs to wake up and realise that the DP game has changed. With the CP4, Yamaha learned important lessons from the likes of Nord and Casio, basically:

 

* It has to weigh in under the 20kg mark and preferably appreciably less;

* It has to be as compact in design as possible, with no extra length added by the control wheels, and no excess cabinetry;

* It has to sound good in mono.

 

If (as I suspect) the 800 turns out to be just another slight upgrade to the bog-standard 25kg RD slab design, then it's a 'meh' from me.

 

I couldn't agree more re size and weight. That was the reason I bought the 76 note Nord stage 2. (Much smaller and 17.5kg vs 25kg) Unfortunately the pianos on the Nord dont do it for me, but with the addition of a Muse receptor with Ivory steinway, the sound is now excellent. I still prefer the action and keyboard layout of the Roland though

A 73 or 76 note roland around the 15kg mark would be ideal.

Guess we will just have to wait and see. Maybe the forthcoming NAMM will have some good news :-)

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Just spoke to a local music store here in Brisbane Australia, and they said Roland has advised them a replacement for the RD700NX is due out in the next few weeks. The rumors continue...
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Why does this Roland countdown feel like another one of those self indulgent Apple releases that have become more "trite" than "innovative game changing events"? C'mon Roland, bring it.

 

Because previous countdowns have brought us the V-Accordion and the special edition red Cube amp? :idk::facepalm:

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They'll probably announce the KC 1000 keyboard amp. It weighs just 4 pounds, is only slightly bigger than your iPad, and pumps 1000 watts per side in full stereo yet still sounds like ass.
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Well, it's here.

 

Lighter than the 700 series (although still hefty at nearly 23kg), still too long. Supposedly has V-Piano technology on board.

 

I'm not hearing anything in the video which immediately blows me away. In fact, it sounds quite artificial in the Brian Culbertson segment. But I guess that was kind of like my reaction to the V-Piano, so hardly surprising.

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That piano sound IS distinctly, ahem, 'retro'. I think EJ would probably like it.

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Kind of reminds me of a Kawai MP - 4/5/6 but with a cheaper looking chasis.

 

PS - It's physical form looks better in the video than pictures but it stills looks like a Kawai to me.

 

People in the video are saying the things. Like how the action fights back a little. Could be a nice replacement for my MP-5.

 

I wonder what the price point will be. Around $2500?

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So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt

 

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Great, it cuts through a mix. So did the M1 piano. Sounds about as realistic too.

 

Is there any doubt Roland is still dead last in the piano realism game?

 

Yeah seemed very bright in the Youtube clip. The E-pianos are said to be enhanced but kinda sound the same although the overdrive sounded quite nice.

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