Phil Aiken Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Time to do some sig changing..... Yamaha CP-4 Hammond SK1 Mac Mini with Mainstage (Already had this) Cofigurations: 1. Rackless: Just the 2 boards midi'd together. (Burn or Vent involved) 2. 1 Keyboard: CP4 with Voce V5 as drawbar controller with Mainstage rack. 3. Mainstage centric: Cp4 with Axiom 61 controller on top - gives me buttons sliders and aftertouch. 4. Whole deal: CP4, SK1, Mainstage. This will take the most work to get together. Could gig with configs 1 or 2 tonight if I had to. Really this may never happen as the only clear advantage over config 2 is the Hammond physical keyboard over the Mainstage. Why do I tell you? Because you are the only people who would give a crap. Moog The One, VV 64 EP, Wurlies 200A 140 7300, Forte 7, Mojo 61, OB-6, Prophet 6, Polaris, Hammond A100, Farfisa VIP, ,Young Chang 6', Voyager, E7 Clav, Midiboard, Linnstrument, Seaboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Why do I tell you? Because you are the only people who would give a crap. Enjoy it! When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmp Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Why do I tell you? Because you are the only people who would give a crap. --wmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthaholic Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Bread & Butta! The fact there's a Highway To Hell and only a Stairway To Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic numbers People only say "It's a free country" when they're doing something shitty-Demetri Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opdigits Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Nice, BeeThree!!! Nobody told me there'd be days like these... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Nice. Was pondering the same line-up myself last night, with the option to switch in the Kurzweil when a broader sonic pallet and rather less Hammond authenticity is needed. Studio: Yamaha P515 | Yamaha Tyros 5 | Yamaha HX1 | Moog Sub 37 Road: Yamaha YC88 | Nord Electro 5D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Strong rig for the bread and butter keys! Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusker Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I like! Steinway L, Yamaha Motif XS-8, NE3 73, Casio PX-5S, iPad, EV ZLX 12-P ZZ(x2), bunch of PA stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Aiken Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 I did not expect to like the electric pianos in the CP4 as much as I do. This made the Nord vs. SK1 decision for the top board easy. For projects when I am doing more than organs/pianos, the softsynths in the Mac have it all covered and then some. Moog The One, VV 64 EP, Wurlies 200A 140 7300, Forte 7, Mojo 61, OB-6, Prophet 6, Polaris, Hammond A100, Farfisa VIP, ,Young Chang 6', Voyager, E7 Clav, Midiboard, Linnstrument, Seaboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Åslund Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Pics or it didn't happen..! Too much stuff, too little time, too few gigs, should spend more time practicing...! 🙄 main instruments: Nord Stage 3 compact, Yamaha CP88, Kurzweil PC4, Viscount KeyB Legend Live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Strong rig for the bread and butter keys! Exactly. And, like Aidan, I'm considering a similar move. It appears that we have similar rig needs: an '88', bottom tier, then either a clone or ROMpler up top - depending on the gig. Like Aidan's Kurzweil, my JP50 covers the 'synthier' gigs. So much of my current gigging leans on the core piano, ep / clav, and Hammond tones that it makes sense to have instruments that specialize in those sounds and absolutely nail it - on all fronts. And if the gig with my former, country-rock bandmates comes through, I'll definitely want to do that; they're super busy.... It's almost certain that my Stage 2 76 will go; it's on rental for the month, and the customer is very interested in purchase at the end of that time. Replacing that, 2nd tier, with a Hammond would work out better overall. Likely that would be an older, used XK model - 1, 3, or possibly 3c; I need the actual MIDI control provided - as pulling some synth / ROMpler tones from an iPad would be necessary at times. Piano-wise, the CP4 is tempting. As soon as the roads skating rinks are cleared out here, I want to get into Denver to play one. The S90XS has fantastic, live pianos - especially with the third party Voices and edits I use; but the CP4 vintage ep's and clavs are technologically way ahead, and its pianos are highly specialized. Trying to dial-in those vintage tones hasn't quite happened with the S90XS. Will have to think about that one.... But getting a real Hammond in place of the Nord appears imminent. The synth engine's cool, but I've already got a lot of very strong ROMpler and VA stuff to pull from -beyond the JP, if needed. That kick-ass, authentic Hammond vibe is something that's not quite there - even with the 'Vent, or Burn. Great, back to basics rig choice, Beethree . I think a few of us will be following in your footsteps - at the very least in part. 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Aiken Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 The CP4s EP's took some tweaking. In the Play Menu, there are 2 velocity response parameters (not the velocity map of the actual keyboard) and also you can get at the amplitude envelope in another parameter. I ended up increasing the dynamic response on the Wurly's as well as lengthening the note body, as I felt they were too plucky. A little judicious eq and amp sim really perked them up. Anxious to try it with the Burn, as I felt that helped the Nord EP's quite a bit. Moog The One, VV 64 EP, Wurlies 200A 140 7300, Forte 7, Mojo 61, OB-6, Prophet 6, Polaris, Hammond A100, Farfisa VIP, ,Young Chang 6', Voyager, E7 Clav, Midiboard, Linnstrument, Seaboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Aiken Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 Pics or it didn't happen..! Is there a sticky on how to post pics? Moog The One, VV 64 EP, Wurlies 200A 140 7300, Forte 7, Mojo 61, OB-6, Prophet 6, Polaris, Hammond A100, Farfisa VIP, ,Young Chang 6', Voyager, E7 Clav, Midiboard, Linnstrument, Seaboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opdigits Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Don't know about the sticky, but it's pretty simple. First the image must be hosted somewhere, like on your own website, or another (photobucket, etc.) and you'll need the URL for it. Next, in your post, "Switch to full screen reply" and click the "Enter an image" icon (third one after the smiley). Paste in the URL to your image http://www.mywebsite.com/mypicture.jpg and click "OK" Click "Submit" (or "Preview" to check first) and you should be good to go. Nobody told me there'd be days like these... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Zero Two Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Why not get the XK1c (I think that is the name) the SK1 without the extras? Only drawback I see is lack of PB/MW on the SK1...Sometimes ya just gotta have that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Åslund Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 But does the XK1c have any advantages over the SK1? The price difference is quite small, and all of the extra features surely justifies the extra $$$. Too much stuff, too little time, too few gigs, should spend more time practicing...! 🙄 main instruments: Nord Stage 3 compact, Yamaha CP88, Kurzweil PC4, Viscount KeyB Legend Live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Aiken Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 Good point about the XK1C. I was able to get the SK1 for about the same money as I could have gotten the XK1C, and It will come in handy to have those sounds on hand for quickie rehearsals and the like. I do have PB/DW on the Yamaha - and if I am doing more synthy stuff, I will use an alternate controller up top with more knobs/buttons/aftertouch etc. Moog The One, VV 64 EP, Wurlies 200A 140 7300, Forte 7, Mojo 61, OB-6, Prophet 6, Polaris, Hammond A100, Farfisa VIP, ,Young Chang 6', Voyager, E7 Clav, Midiboard, Linnstrument, Seaboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewImprov Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Why do I tell you? Because you are the only people who would give a crap. Love this kind of stuff! What kind of monitor and controller (mouse/trackpad) are you using for the Mini? Pictures, please! Turn up the speaker Hop, flop, squawk It's a keeper -Captain Beefheart, Ice Cream for Crow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Aiken Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 I am using an 8 inch Mimo USB touch screen monitor and an Apple trackpad. That said, I wrote an Apple script to boot directly into Mainstage, and I change programs from my keys. I keep the monitor and trackpad tucked away druing the gig. I have the mini racked up in a Sonnet rack, with a Babyface RME in the 2nd slot. I had a friend cut a hole in the top of that rack casing so I can access the top of the Babyface in a pinch. It is in a 3 space rack, in the bottom, with a 1 unit Ashley mixer in the top slop, so that the middle slot is free and I can reach in. I took a few pix but have a rehearsal tonight and an all day session tomorrow. Will post when I can upload them. Moog The One, VV 64 EP, Wurlies 200A 140 7300, Forte 7, Mojo 61, OB-6, Prophet 6, Polaris, Hammond A100, Farfisa VIP, ,Young Chang 6', Voyager, E7 Clav, Midiboard, Linnstrument, Seaboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Why not get the XK1c (I think that is the name) the SK1 without the extras? Only drawback I see is lack of PB/MW on the SK1...Sometimes ya just gotta have that... That's why a used XK-1, or XK-3 has more appeal to me. Velcro a half-rack module, or iPad w/synth apps and you're good to go for those extra sounds - along with having pitch / mod. wheels. Sure, the SK1 is attractive when I think of the curb weight. But designing a keyboard that has MIDI control mapping and zones - but leaving out PB/MW - is kind of like building a car that has heat and AC, but the blower fan has one speed - low. 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyMary Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Nice rig! Have you ever had your computer act up on you during a gig? Do you have like a backup plan for this? Like a panic button or quick access to the computer output volume knob? I'm terrified of computers onstage because they might act up. Worst case scenario - blasting white noise out of the PA. Happened to me during a rehearsal (well, it was a PC laptop) - instant switch back to h/w. Stage: MOX6, V-machine, and Roland AX7 Rolls PM351 for IEMs. Home/recording: Roland FP4, a few guitars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyS Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Time to do some sig changing..... Why do I tell you? Because you are the only people who would give a crap. The weird thing is, we really do!! Enjoy your rig. Sounds killer! Rudy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Aiken Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share Posted December 5, 2013 Nice rig! Have you ever had your computer act up on you during a gig? Do you have like a backup plan for this? Like a panic button or quick access to the computer output volume knob? I'm terrified of computers onstage because they might act up. Worst case scenario - blasting white noise out of the PA. Happened to me during a rehearsal (well, it was a PC laptop) - instant switch back to h/w. Never a problem. I have a Mac mini with 2 SSD drives and it gets used for absolutely nothing other than Mainstage. It is going though a line mixer, and the master volume is within reach. Also, most of the time I tend to have a back up sound source handy should anything go awry. Moog The One, VV 64 EP, Wurlies 200A 140 7300, Forte 7, Mojo 61, OB-6, Prophet 6, Polaris, Hammond A100, Farfisa VIP, ,Young Chang 6', Voyager, E7 Clav, Midiboard, Linnstrument, Seaboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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