EscapeRocks Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Okay, I am about to purchase one of these boards. From my other thread about simplifying, you may know I now use a Privia PX350 as my main piano, and my old M50 61. As such my MOX8 is being sold. Now then my conundrum. Getting the MOX6 would be easy, since I can transfer all my programs and masters. However, having played with a new Krome at the store for a long time, I find I can get all the sounds I want. Here's my pros and cons of each board for how I would be using them. MOX6 Pro: Easy transition, since I have all the libraries saved (John Melas software). Master is very cool. Con: Use as a slave board is irritating at best. Having to dive into Song/Mix mode to setup is a pain. Krome Pro: Familiar (to me) Korg interface. Very easy to setup Combis for use with external controller. Easy split and layer programming. Con: No software librarian like I have for the Yamaha. Will need to finally learn how to dig deep to tweak sounds Both key beds play fine to me, so that's not an issue. I am leaning heavily towards the Krome since it's gigging capabilities are much easier for me to setup. Sounds are great on both. Anything I'm missing in my personal analysis? I can get each for the same price (not the MOXF) David Gig Rig:Casio Privia PX-5S | Yamaha MODX+ 6 | MacBook Pro 14" M1| Mainstage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miden Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 go the mox F - a bit more than the Krome but well worth it imo. There is no luck - luck is simply the confluence of circumstance and co-incidence... Time is the final arbiter for all things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 What about the Krome tempts you to change from your M50? Is it the pianos/EPs, which you would trigger from your PX350? Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I am leaning heavily towards the Krome since it's gigging capabilities are much easier for me to setup. Seems like you're more than half-way there to making a decision. (Korg fanboy here)... When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Clark Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Krome takes F-O-R-E-V-E-R to boot. If power goes down on a live gig. This is something to consider. Soul, R&B, Pop from Los Angeles http://philipclark.com Cannonball Gerald Albright Signature Alto, Yamaha YC73, Fender Rhodes, Roland Juno-106, Yamaha MX61, Roland VR-09, MicroKorg XL, Maschine Mikro, Yamaha Reface CP, Roland MKS-50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Krome takes F-O-R-E-V-E-R to boot. That bad? I've only played one for a few minutes at the store, so no gigging experience with it. When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 The MOXF would be far more versatile. It has a much larger wave ROM and can accept a flash board. I imagine you'd also like the MOXF keybed better. Korg Kronos 61 (2); Kurzweil PC4, Roland Fantom-06, Casio PX-350M; 2015 Macbook Pro and 2012 Mac Mini (Logic Pro X and Mainstage), GigPerformer 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonysounds Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 For the $200 more for an MOXF6 ($1199 street price, compared to $999 for Krome 61), it would come down to sounds and interface. Without having had the opportunity to play and program a Krome, Id be inclined to stay MOXF6.since youve had that opportunity, and know which works better for you, I think you already know the answer. Hitting "Play" does NOT constitute live performance. -Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Thanks all. I guess my posting all this is my way of sounding out my own thoughts. As far as the Krome goes, I can setup Korg workstations in my sleep. I started with a Triton Extreme years ago, then my current M50. I love the MOX, but even though I've had my MOX8 for a couple years now, it's still pain in the butt, to me, to navigate and setup as a "sound module" so to speak. There are many songs I play one sound from the synth itself, and others from my main board. On the Korg this is so very easy to setup. On the Yamaha, I have to dig deep... Anyway, I am in fact leaning towards the Krome. To answer Scott's question: I like the pianos and other piano-type tones on the Krome better than the MOX David Gig Rig:Casio Privia PX-5S | Yamaha MODX+ 6 | MacBook Pro 14" M1| Mainstage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bif_ Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 MOX6 - 64 note polyphony Kross - 80 single mode/40 dual mode polyphony Krome - 120 single voice mode/60 dual voice mode polyphony MOXF6 - 128 note polyphony Only 40 voices with layered sounds seems like a potential problem to me. Kurzweil Forte, Yamaha Motif ES7, Muse Receptor 2 Pro Max, Neo Ventilator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I imagine you'd also like the MOXF keybed better. I would tend to agree. The Krome 61 keybed was rather disappointing when I played it, if only briefly. When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Clark Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I faced a similar decision recently, and I actually opted for the MX61. It's MUCH simpler to operate than the MOX with nearly the same waveset. And the keybed and build are similar to the KROME. I don't regret the choice for a live board. I feel the Acoustic and Electric Pianos are superior to the Korg, and I was a long time Triton LE owner. Something to consider. Soul, R&B, Pop from Los Angeles http://philipclark.com Cannonball Gerald Albright Signature Alto, Yamaha YC73, Fender Rhodes, Roland Juno-106, Yamaha MX61, Roland VR-09, MicroKorg XL, Maschine Mikro, Yamaha Reface CP, Roland MKS-50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Krome - 80 single mode/40 dual mode polyphony Only 40 voices with layered sounds seems like a potential problem to me. Bif, That's the specs for the Kross. The Krome is actually 120/60. Still something I need to consider. Thank you for that head's up. David Gig Rig:Casio Privia PX-5S | Yamaha MODX+ 6 | MacBook Pro 14" M1| Mainstage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Regardless of which I end up with, I use a USP in my setup. Too many venues lately seem to have one moron who starts flipping all the breakers to figure out how to turn on venue lights. I get tired of my gear quick cycling off then on because of this. David Gig Rig:Casio Privia PX-5S | Yamaha MODX+ 6 | MacBook Pro 14" M1| Mainstage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 I faced a similar decision recently, and I actually opted for the MX61. It's MUCH simpler to operate than the MOX with nearly the same waveset. And the keybed and build are similar to the KROME. I don't regret the choice for a live board. I feel the Acoustic and Electric Pianos are superior to the Korg, and I was a long time Triton LE owner. Something to consider. Thank you. Quick question, can you zone the MX similar to the Triton/M50/Krome? That a basic need I have. Example have three different parts playing on three separate areas. David Gig Rig:Casio Privia PX-5S | Yamaha MODX+ 6 | MacBook Pro 14" M1| Mainstage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 MOX6 - 64 note polyphony Krome - 80 single mode/40 dual mode polyphony MOXF6 - 128 note polyphony Only 40 voices with layered sounds seems like a potential problem to me. I'm not sure why Korg makes that distinction. MOX6's 64 likewise drops to 32 if you layer (or even just select a stereo sound). Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bif_ Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Krome - 80 single mode/40 dual mode polyphony Only 40 voices with layered sounds seems like a potential problem to me. Bif, That's the specs for the Kross. The Krome is actually 120/60. Still something I need to consider. Thank you for that head's up. Whoops. You're right! Kross, Krome, too many dang similarities. Kurzweil Forte, Yamaha Motif ES7, Muse Receptor 2 Pro Max, Neo Ventilator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bif_ Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 MOX6 - 64 note polyphony Krome - 80 single mode/40 dual mode polyphony MOXF6 - 128 note polyphony Only 40 voices with layered sounds seems like a potential problem to me. I'm not sure why Korg makes that distinction. MOX6's 64 likewise drops to 32 if you layer (or even just select a stereo sound). Right on! To me, 32 notes is a problem, even for live. Either the MX series or the MOXF would then be better at 128 note polyphony. Kurzweil Forte, Yamaha Motif ES7, Muse Receptor 2 Pro Max, Neo Ventilator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyMary Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I had the same dilemma recently. Went for the Yamaha mainly for the audio inputs and the usb audio interface. MOX is deeper than the Korg. It is a pain to set up, and I have an engineering degree.. Korg is so much simpler to operate! Stage: MOX6, V-machine, and Roland AX7 Rolls PM351 for IEMs. Home/recording: Roland FP4, a few guitars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Thanks all for the discussion. I ordered a Krome 61. It sounds great to me, and most importantly, the user interface is leaps and bounds better than the Yamaha. It will be here Monday them I get to work setting it up for my rig. David Gig Rig:Casio Privia PX-5S | Yamaha MODX+ 6 | MacBook Pro 14" M1| Mainstage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Clark Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I faced a similar decision recently, and I actually opted for the MX61. It's MUCH simpler to operate than the MOX with nearly the same waveset. And the keybed and build are similar to the KROME. I don't regret the choice for a live board. I feel the Acoustic and Electric Pianos are superior to the Korg, and I was a long time Triton LE owner. Something to consider. Thank you. Quick question, can you zone the MX similar to the Triton/M50/Krome? That a basic need I have. Example have three different parts playing on three separate areas. Sorry I'm late responding. I see you've already made your order. Yes, you can set up Performances of up to 16 parts on the MX. There is also a 3rd party editor to help you. Soul, R&B, Pop from Los Angeles http://philipclark.com Cannonball Gerald Albright Signature Alto, Yamaha YC73, Fender Rhodes, Roland Juno-106, Yamaha MX61, Roland VR-09, MicroKorg XL, Maschine Mikro, Yamaha Reface CP, Roland MKS-50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyMoe Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Congratulations Dave. That would have been my choice as well..... Montage 7, Mojo 61, PC-3, XK-3c Pro, Kronos 88, Hammond SK-1, Motif XF- 7, Hammond SK-2, Roland FR-1, FR-18, Hammond B3 - Blond, Hammond BV -Cherry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bif_ Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 David, Please post back how the krome compares to the mox after you've had some time to settle in with it. Would appreciate your opinion and perspective. Greg Kurzweil Forte, Yamaha Motif ES7, Muse Receptor 2 Pro Max, Neo Ventilator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miden Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 The only thing I would add is you should have compared oranges to oranges - ie it is the MOX F that should have been side by side with the Krome, not it's poor (very) cousin the MOX. It seems that writers were citing the MOX. Maybe they meant the MOXf, but it was hard to tell. Anyway once you get over the shiny bright colour screen you will realise you may have made an error the OS is NOT as easy as it looks not to mention a rather awkward insert effects and sequencing system - oh and the PC editor for the Krome is not all that good. And there is an EXCELLENT set of PC tools for the entire Motif series from John Melas. Why am I writing this? Because I owned a Krome 73. I now have the MOXF88. There is no luck - luck is simply the confluence of circumstance and co-incidence... Time is the final arbiter for all things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Miden, I appreciate the thoughts. A couple points. You may have missed early on in this thread. I own an MOX8 for a couple years now. I am very familiar with its interface. I also have and use the Melas software. The MOX and the MOXF have identical interfaces. Further, I've been programming Korg workstations with the large touch screen-style interface since I got my then new Triton Extreme many years ago, then my Korg M50 a couple years ago, and about to be Krome. I find no difficulty whatsoever in navigating around the GUI of the Korgs. David Gig Rig:Casio Privia PX-5S | Yamaha MODX+ 6 | MacBook Pro 14" M1| Mainstage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miden Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Fair enough then One does need to be very familiar with the Korg OS and it seems that with this latest info, the Krome was always probably going to be what you were going to buy regardless. I have no difficulty with the Korg OS, or the sound - I just don't like it. As with all of these things it is always personal opinions although perhaps you could have mentioned your long term Korg ownership earlier had I known you were a dedicated Korgy I would not have bothered That being said, I have no doubt you will enjoy the Krome, good luck with it There is no luck - luck is simply the confluence of circumstance and co-incidence... Time is the final arbiter for all things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonysounds Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Dave, did you get it in red? Or are you going to customize its finish! Hitting "Play" does NOT constitute live performance. -Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 MOX is deeper than the Korg. More convoluted and annoying for sure, but deeper? Hmmmmm... When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Dave, did you get it in red? Or are you going to customize its finish! Nah, standard black. I have no plans to paint this one. I may be customizing the PX350. Found a really cool Candy Apple Red that looks good under lights..... I'll do a writeup if and when I tackle that. David Gig Rig:Casio Privia PX-5S | Yamaha MODX+ 6 | MacBook Pro 14" M1| Mainstage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bif_ Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Dave, did you get it in red? Or are you going to customize its finish! Nah, standard black. I have no plans to paint this one. I may be customizing the PX350. Found a really cool Candy Apple Red that looks good under lights..... I'll do a writeup if and when I tackle that. Have you ever sold any of your customized/painted gear? Just curious of the effect on resale value? Kurzweil Forte, Yamaha Motif ES7, Muse Receptor 2 Pro Max, Neo Ventilator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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