whitefang Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I don't like Malmsteen. His playing, to me, doesn't SAY anything. Having said that, I'll let you in on how Whitefang thinks. Those who know me and have known me for years get around to understanding that when I say I don't like a particular artist, it DOESN'T mean I think they're not talented. There have been several recording "stars" over the years that I never cared for. Overall. Once in a while, they DO put up something I like, so there's that. Example: I've never been a big David Bowie fan. But I DO like a few tunes; "Sufferagette City", "Panic In Detroit" and the studio version of "Diamond Dogs". Maybe throw in "Changes". But that's as far as it goes. I wouldn't have, and never had, spent one dime to go see him in concert. Malmsteen's talent CAN'T be denied. I wouldn't try. But it's something in his style that doesn't resonate with me. Like someone entering a pleasant conversation with talking TOO much, TOO fast. It jangles my nerves and unsettles me. But if we're to discuss Yngwie's technical ability, I'd have to be in agreement that he certainly DOES posssess an amazing and masterful handling of the fretboard. But for me, it's all just too much homogenized. Of course, I can only address what I've heard, which isn't his full body of work. Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I think that's fair. I think much the same way as you- I can respect the artist's talent without loving the artist's work. Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I loved the Icarus' Dream off the first Rising Force Polydor album. [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtUn_QHtZGc But I liked the original also. [video:youtube] This is cool! [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyBj3vNI1g8 "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picker Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 You guys gotta remember, before EVH & Eruption, the classical approach had been pretty limited in it's appeal & application. AFTER Van Halen 1 was released, everybody and his Uncle Bob was trying to learn how to tap harmonic and melodic minor licks at light speed. Sure it isn't what it became, but it all really did grow out of that. Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I remeber that time quite well, and accept that EVH may have fomented the quest for speed in the USA, but that's just an example of convergent evolution. Neoclassical euroshredders were already out there, lurking. EVH blew open the doors for shred, but the type of shred YJM delivered- then and now- is of a different character. EVH is still much more clearly linked to blues rock at his base, with everything else accreted on top of it. YJM- and those like him- were aesthetically classical from the get-go. Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aph Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 I remeber that time quite well, and accept that EVH may have fomented the quest for speed in the USA, but that's just an example of convergent evolution. Neoclassical euroshredders were already out there, lurking. EVH blew open the doors for shred, but the type of shred YJM delivered- then and now- is of a different character. EVH is still much more clearly linked to blues rock at his base, with everything else accreted on top of it. YJM- and those like him- were aesthetically classical from the get-go. Exactly Yngwie was doing his thing in Sweden in the 70s same time EVH was making waves in USA Yngwie Malmsteen 1978 [video:youtube] This clip was the demo which ended up as the song Rising Force [video:youtube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumblyfingers Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Good guitar player, boring after a song or two........most especially his writing. Too much of the same. Yes he plays faster than Ritchie but Ritchie opened that style up, had a way better tone and his solo's were more interesting and dynamic...... and they still hold true to this day. I was "doing" Hollywood when Yngwie showed up and was hanging out. Stories were going around about him treating women....or should I say girls......like crap and that he was physically abusive. He lost me after that. Now.........as to how true that is.......I don't know. But there is something very low about a man who mistreats women. You don't hear stories like that about Satch, Vai, Paul Gilbert, Eddie etc etc etc etc. But you DID hear it about Yngwie. It is well known he was very arrogant in the 80's. Maybe it was due to all the blow and whatever. Maybe he has cleaned up his act? Maybe none of it was true. Who knows? I bought his first hoopla album when it came out..... to see what all the fuss was about. I think I have listened to it less than 5 times since I got it in the 80's. I wonder if he discusses that in his book that aph is pushing very hard here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aph Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 I loved the Icarus' Dream off the first Rising Force Polydor album. [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtUn_QHtZGc But I liked the original also. [video:youtube] This is cool! [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyBj3vNI1g8 I like these some obscure B sides and a reggae tune from Malmsteen [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqQncqdaXag [video:youtube] [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2sdBFMolMo [video:youtube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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