theGman Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I was thinking of possibly adding a reverb to my keyboard outputs (I use 2 boards). Can I use a guitar pedal ? type reverb? Is this doable? Is this a dumb idea? Just an idea; once in a while I would like a reverb sound. I know I have reverb on the keyboards (Jupiter 50 and Electro 3), but thought a master reverb would be easier to energize in a live setting. Thanks in advance, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I, personally, don't like using reverb live. I prefer that the audience actually hear what I'm playing. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekewaka Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Many modern guitar reverb pedals are very clean, some might have a vintage sound and even introduce noise due to the analog design. Most good keyboards have a separate reverb unit you could disable, Electro 3 for sure and I would be surprised if you can't do this with Jupiter-50. So that would be the best choice. Less pedals or racks, less issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midinut Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Unless you're doing ambient, chill, downtempo or something along those lines (which are usually awash with not just reverb, but delay out the wazoo ... I wouldn't suggest it either. Kronos 88 | MODX7 | Wavestate | Crave | KeyLab 61 | CPS SSv3 | MacBook Pro | MainStage | Komplete 13U | V Collection 9 Behringer Poly-D | ASM Hydrasynth Deluxe | Roli Seaboard Rise 49 | Spectrasonics Omnisphere 2, Trillian, & Keyscape | AAS Collection More VSTs than I'll ever figure out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Åslund Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Seems like a bad idea altogether, I'd say. The reverb in your keyboards should be good enough for any live situation. Like D-bon I think you should keep the amount of reverb to a minimum when playing live. I don't know what kind of music you play, but if it's rock/pop band with 5+ band, you will just reduce your chances of being heard. I use more reverb only for certain sounds, like lead sounds, that are louder than my comping sounds and sounds I use as a soundscaping effects, when there more space in the arrangment. So my suggestion, at least if your playing more than one sound at the time to reduce reverb altogether and add reverb internally for the sounds that actually have something to gain by added reverb. Too much stuff, too little time, too few gigs, should spend more time practicing...! 🙄 main instruments: Nord Stage 3 compact, Yamaha CP88, Kurzweil PC4, Viscount KeyB Legend Live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekewaka Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I was testing a Korg SV-1 and with the wobbly delay and reverb you could take any piano or electric piano and instant Boards of Canada! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Åslund Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I was testing a Korg SV-1 and with the wobbly delay and reverb you could take any piano or electric piano and instant Boards of Canada! Is that a good or bad thing..? Too much stuff, too little time, too few gigs, should spend more time practicing...! 🙄 main instruments: Nord Stage 3 compact, Yamaha CP88, Kurzweil PC4, Viscount KeyB Legend Live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekewaka Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I was testing a Korg SV-1 and with the wobbly delay and reverb you could take any piano or electric piano and instant Boards of Canada! Is that a good or bad thing..? Maybe a bad thing, anyone could sound like Boards of Canada today with any good performance synth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Åslund Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Never heard of them, but nevermind Too much stuff, too little time, too few gigs, should spend more time practicing...! 🙄 main instruments: Nord Stage 3 compact, Yamaha CP88, Kurzweil PC4, Viscount KeyB Legend Live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 In a live setting, avoid any reverb (hall, plate, chamber, etc) with long tails. The singer likely has a reverb with tail, the guitar player likely has spring reverb with tail. Short room reverbs are the best way for keyboards to get heard amid all that wash. I get more mileage with tapped delay and/or the Eventide 2016. Something about that 2016 stereo room algorithm makes the instrument get heard in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe P Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 GMan, You can use a guitar pedal. I run my Electro through a Fender Deluxe Reverb pedal (not so much for the reverb live, though). I have it on my lower board, it has a light so you know when it is in the signal chain. Regards, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 You figure that in many places there will be reverb from the sound bouncing around (sometimes too much!) in the room. So you are verbing the verb in such cases. Another problem I encounter with fx in general is going from stereo to mono with patches, if I'm not careful I end up with a washed out sound just doing that (ie the wet/dry mix changes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 If you must reverb with hardware the Lexicon MX200 seems to do a nice job for less than $200. The only times I have done this is with vintage analog synths with no built in effects. Usually the only off board effect I have used are wah pedal, Dr Q, or a hard delay. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoooombiex Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Guitar pedals should work fine. If you're going to try one I'd recommend the Neunaber Wet. Relatively inexpensive, especially used, and very flexible. Small, very highly regarded, etc. I keep one on my pedalboard and mainly use it with the depth set to infinite for big ambient washes. The mix knob is very well tapered, allowing you to have a subtle wash in the back with clean dry signal out front, or 100% wet. I actually just leave it on all the time with mix set to 100% dry and then just turn up the mix when I want the wash. It sounds fine for "normal" reverb sounds too, but I just don't find those necessary with keys. I do use a delay a fair amount though with rhodes & clav, which accomplishes some of the same goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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