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Keyboard Stand report - K&M Baby Spider Pro


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Primarily because I have no life, here is a brief review of the new keyboard stand I've transitioned to, the K&M Baby Spider Pro, in black:

 

http://static.bhphotovideo.com/images/largeimages/695191.jpg

 

I purchased this from BH Photo Video in NY as they seemed to be the only retailer who stocked this. There are several online retailers selling the larger "Spider Pro", but not the shorter "Baby" version. The purchase process itself was a nightmare, as despite status on the web and several reassurances from BH, it actually took more than four months for the unit to finally arrive. Long horrible story, but this review is not intended to throw a retailer under the bus.

 

The stand itself is less "shiny" in person than the pic appears. It's a typical matte black anodized aluminum. The legs rotate into place and form a very stable, wide base. It can accommodate two sets of arms, and I purchased the additional pair for use in my multi-board gigs.

 

The height of the arms is infinitely adjustable, and thus the stand is very suitable for both sitting and standing use. The second tier can be placed at any distance from the first, thus very close matching of top/bottom boards are possible. The arms themselves extend out quite a bit, which I use for my Kronos 73 on the bottom (a pretty deep board), and so far stability has been fine. I'm 5'6" in height, and playing standing is very comfortable - but significantly taller player will probably be more comfortable in front of the taller Spider Pro version.

 

A small niggle is in order to use the second tier of arms, you have to take the plastic top cap off the unit, slide the plastic guide unit up and slide each arm into place, then slide the unit back into the stand to the desired height. It's a very quick procedure, but more twiddly than some stands provide. Once it's all in place, it's stable and good for the night, and the only bits to keep track of in the K&M carrying bag are the arms and the end cap.

 

Overall the unit is no heavier than the V-stand I was previously using, far more height adjustable, 2nd tier gets far tighter to the bottom tier, it's suitable for seated as well as standing playing, and when two-boarded, the height is appropriate visually (no huge totem towering up above the keyboards).

 

 

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Thanx for that review. Ive been on the fence about getting a Baby Spider, but didn't know if it could hold two boards. I'm only 5.6 so I should be ok standing. One question Hows the access to the bottom board, with a second board on the top tier . Oh and can you angle the top set of arms?
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I also have a Baby Spider, with two sets of arms mounted. I don't really have tested it much for two boards - the closest I have come is my Nord Stage2 sw73 on top tier, and then a wooden shelf with mixer and ventilator just underneath, set very close to the upper tier. Then I didn't need any access to the stuff underneath.

 

@Johnny - no unfortunately you can't angle the arms. There is however another set of arms you can get if you want the top tier angled. Just know that that set is set to a fixed angle.

 

My point - I you want to boards close together, I guess however you set the tiers, you can't really have full access to the panel of the lower board. At least not while standing. If you play sitting down you're in a better angle to see the whole board.

 

I mainly got the Baby because it looks cool, it's reasonably flexible (I have also bought the top laptop shelf) and it also makes a great third tire above my K&M 18950.

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My point - I you want to boards close together, I guess however you set the tiers, you can't really have full access to the panel of the lower board.

With *any* stand, you can't get the keybeds of the two boards close together without blocking access to the lower board's control panel unless the lower board's panel is very shallow. That's an issue with the depth of the board, regardless of the stand.

 

The additional potential issue I see with this stand, though, is that, while you could probably rest a shallow board (like a Casio 88) on the forward edge of the bottom tier, the big pole in the back means that the top board might have to be rather shallow as well. I guess it depends how far all the arms can extend. If you fully extended the lower arms and placed a shallow board there, and wanted to leave 6" of it uncovered (i.e. the keys), how deep a board could you put on the top tier?

 

Also, do I understand correctly that you can't collapse the arms to the side (at least for the second tier), but need to remove them for transport? Not too bad if that's all you have to remove, but it would have been nicer if it were designed to move intact.

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Actually, I have full access to the bottom board's panel. The top board isn't "sitting right on top" of the bottom, but my goal was getting the bottom board high enough to play comfortably while standing, while not obscuring the touch screen.

 

So my rig is Kronos 73 on bottom, PC361 on top. What I do is put top tier all the way to tallest position on frame, and slide the back of the Kurz over the top of the end cap (having removed the mic stand threaded thing first, of course).

 

I also extend the lower arms to the fourth or fifth extension "hole", and using it that way I have full access to the Kronos touch screen, knobs, etc. while playing standing.

 

@AnotherScott - I haven't measured how far out the arms extend, but have found that even with a relatively heavy beast like the kronos73, it's very stable with the arms almost completely extended. I was nervous about that at first but have gigged this config extensively with no issues. And yeah, you have to remove the top tier arms for transport, which is a hassle only as far as I leave the top cap unscrewed and just secure it with gaffers tape after assembly. I think the taller Spider Pro is long enough to allow both arms to store for transport, but the shorter Baby Spider's column only allows internal storage one set of arms.

 

@MrTobbe: agreed it looks cool, with no protruding column. I was looking for an "Apex-ish" stand that would have more stable footing and keyboard support, and like the look of this more than the Ultimate offerings.

 

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That is a nice setup, though there is probably more space both vertically and horizontally between the two boards than I would prefer. I've often rested the front of my top board right on the back of my lower slab. And some of this is probably psychological. I mean, I could imagine creating a perfectly satisfactory 3-tier setup where the top and bottom were as far apart as your two are. So in this case, I could just imagine there were a board in between. ;-)

 

Is the Kurzweil hitting the rear post? Or is it high enough that it goes right on top of it?

 

The arms themselves seem to have significant height to them. So even with a narrow slab on bottom, you might not be able to get the next board too close, unless the rear arms can be made short enough relative to the bottom ones that they can end "behind" the bottom board. Which could actually be cool, if both boards were shallow enough to make that work. It's that post in the back that becomes a limiting factor compared to, say, the old Invisible stands, where the top tier board could basically go as far back as you might ever need it to.

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My point - I you want to boards close together, I guess however you set the tiers, you can't really have full access to the panel of the lower board.

With *any* stand, you can't get the keybeds of the two boards close together without blocking access to the lower board's control panel unless the lower board's panel is very shallow. That's an issue with the depth of the board, regardless of the stand.

Well, some stands offer more depth, like my trusty K&M 18950. You can get the boards very close together, while the upper board sits further back, so you see most of the panel of the lower board as well. The Standtastic is also great for the about same reason.

 

The additional potential issue I see with this stand, though, is that, while you could probably rest a shallow board (like a Casio 88) on the forward edge of the bottom tier, the big pole in the back means that the top board might have to be rather shallow as well. I guess it depends how far all the arms can extend. If you fully extended the lower arms and placed a shallow board there, and wanted to leave 6" of it uncovered (i.e. the keys), how deep a board could you put on the top tier?

 

If you put the top tier at the topmost position, the upper board will sit almost above the pole so it might not be an issue. I think the possible problem you have is because when you extend the tiers fully, they actually extend just as much sideways, as depth-wise. It's a whole different situation with a stand like the Standtastic. That way the Standtastic offer much more separation depth-wise.

 

Also, do I understand correctly that you can't collapse the arms to the side (at least for the second tier), but need to remove them for transport? Not too bad if that's all you have to remove, but it would have been nicer if it were designed to move intact.

 

No, you're wrong. When installed/assembled you cannot remove the arms (like you do on the Ultimate Apex) without using a screwdriver removing the top panel and disassemble the whole thing.

You actually do fold the tires into the base by first releasing the knob and sliding the tires down the pole and then you fold the arms upwards into the base. The problem with the Baby Spider is that it's not designed to hold two tires. While this is not a problem when in playing position - you could probably have 4-5 tires mounted on the bas - but, the base is not long enough to fit two whole tires folded into it. So either you fold in the bottom tires fully and let the top be halfway pointing outwards, or you do like me, have both partially folded into the base. Then it will still fit the Baby Spider gig bag.

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That is a nice setup, though there is probably more space both vertically and horizontally between the two boards than I would prefer. I've often rested the front of my top board right on the back of my lower slab. And some of this is probably psychological. I mean, I could imagine creating a perfectly satisfactory 3-tier setup where the top and bottom were as far apart as your two are. So in this case, I could just imagine there were a board in between. ;-)

 

Is the Kurzweil hitting the rear post? Or is it high enough that it goes right on top of it?

 

The arms themselves seem to have significant height to them. So even with a narrow slab on bottom, you might not be able to get the next board too close, unless the rear arms can be made short enough relative to the bottom ones that they can end "behind" the bottom board. Which could actually be cool, if both boards were shallow enough to make that work. It's that post in the back that becomes a limiting factor compared to, say, the old Invisible stands, where the top tier board could basically go as far back as you might ever need it to.

 

Yes the Kurz is sitting on top of the rear post. The "height" of the arms...hmmm...I never even considered that as I'm coming from a Ultimate V-Stand, those tiers were much thicker/higher.

 

Definitely different strokes and all that - for these standing gigs I'm pretty active (cue that whole discussion about engaging the audience) - running around, leading some tunes with keytar, dancing and the like - so as long as I can access the Kronos touch screen and wail on the Kurz, I'm all good - perhaps I'm just not as discerning about inter-board distance as others :) - the distance in the photos seems to work for me.

 

And mrTobbe is correct about removing arms...I just keep the top cap unscrewed and in the bag, as mentioned in my original post...disassembly and assembly only takes seconds.

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I had the adult Spider pro and it held an XS76 and Extreme 76. I had these 2 up high enough to have the Ws550 underneath with my Rd700GX1.

 

I give the Spider high marks and it was the best solution to view/work the touch screens of the XS and Extreme.

 

But those days are gone as my Kronos 88 has replaced that entire rig.

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I have a K&M Baby Spider Pro and a K&M Spider Pro, and although they're great stands, and look very cool, two things about them slightly disappoint me. Firstly, they feel a little more rattly than I had anticipated, and the arms have some lateral movement which means my keyboards move a bit while I play. Although there's no sign of the stands giving way, and they seem strong enough, it is slightly disconcerting.

 

Secondly, sometimes when I set up, the horizontal arms aren't exactly level, so my keyboards are at a slight slant, even on a flat/true floor. I haven't quite worked out why.

 

However, apart from those niggles, I've been fairly happy with my Spider Pros. They are very adjustable, fold up into a very transportable shape, and leave plenty of space directly under the keyboards for pedals. However I do sometimes wonder whether I should have gone for the Ultimate AX-90...

 

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Secondly, sometimes when I set up, the horizontal arms aren't exactly level, so my keyboards are at a slight slant, even on a flat/true floor. I haven't quite worked out why.

 

I actually had the same problem with my big Spider Pro. I finally figured out that I needed to level the tier before turning the dial to tighten it. The top tier seems to be the more problematic one.

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Firstly, they feel a little more rattly than I had anticipated, and the arms have some lateral movement which means my keyboards move a bit while I play. Although there's no sign of the stands giving way, and they seem strong enough, it is slightly disconcerting.Spherical

I too think that while the stand feels absolutely solidly built, the tiers themselves arent all stable - especially when you extend the arms and put the board something like 4-6 inches from the base. Therefor I do not recommend this stand for 40+ lbs 88 key boards and/or if you play a lot of rock piano. The stand seems to be a bit wiggly then, even with my Nord Stage 2 Compact.

 

Secondly, sometimes when I set up, the horizontal arms aren't exactly level, so my keyboards are at a slight slant, even on a flat/true floor. I haven't quite worked out why.

I actually had the same problem with my big Spider Pro. I finally figured out that I needed to level the tier before turning the dial to tighten it. The top tier seems to be the more problematic one.

I only seem to have that problem when a board is not centered on the tiers - but it need to be quite a bit of center before it starts leaning towards one side.

 

The main reason I bought this one (the Baby Spider) wass as a third tier above my K&M 18950 - for that it's great. It also looks cool and it's easy to hide cables coming from your keyboards, yet there is quite a bit of space for pedals underneath the legs.

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Secondly, sometimes when I set up, the horizontal arms aren't exactly level, so my keyboards are at a slight slant, even on a flat/true floor. I haven't quite worked out why.

 

I actually had the same problem with my big Spider Pro. I finally figured out that I needed to level the tier before turning the dial to tighten it. The top tier seems to be the more problematic one.

 

Interesting - thanks for that, I'll try levelling my tier before tightening to see if it helps.

 

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Hey all,

I pretty much searched the whole internet to find information about the Baby Spider pro, with no luck,

this is basically one of the few threads discussing it.

 

I want to get one, but i have a problem since i don't have it in my country and i'll be ordering it from europe, so i have to do this right.

 

I gig with 1 keyboard (korg M3 61) and i don't think i need the Spider Pro, i especially don't want a pole in my face (well i'm 180cm/ 6feet) i don't really know if the big one will be a problem (any help here?)

 

Will i be able to use the Baby Spider pro in a standing position?

again i'm 180cm (6 feet) and i want to see if the Baby spider pro is the stand to pick.

Or another note, will the big Spider Pro be a problem concerning the pole hiding me?

 

I appreciate any help, i will be ordering soon and this question is tormenting me.

 

Thank you!

Joe

 

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I'm 5'6" in height, and playing standing is very comfortable - but significantly taller player will probably be more comfortable in front of the taller Spider Pro version.

will the big Spider Pro be a problem concerning the pole hiding me?
I doubt this would be a problem.

 

If you are not set on the column style and you are only using a single keyboard, maybe consider the K&M 18950.

Certainly can get tall enough for a 6' person. Incredibly stable.

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On the Contrary, the only reason why i'm getting this is for the column style.

 

But i was worried that the Baby Spider pro wouldn't be high enough for standing (so is it high enough).

And that the Spider Pro would be "too high" for a single Keyboard. (there will be a lot of the column showing above the single keyboard)

 

again, any advice would be highly appreciated. and thank you for your help, but I really want a Pole Stand :D

 

Thanks

 

 

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I have an adult Spider Pro; really like it. If I recall, the top tier on the adult is angled down, the bottom one isn't. It's not here, so I can't check.

 

It seems to me that if you're not sure about the height while playing, just buy the adult model, and you can saw it down to whatever height you like, and replace the cap! Viola! Custom "Cousin" Spider Pro!

 

My only very minor complaint is that for some reason, with 2 keyboards in place, the front edges aren't parallel exactly.

I drew a few horizontal lines on the center column with different color Sharpies, so I can easily set up for either standing or sitting.

I am 6'2", and the center spine is not in visual way when standing.

 

It would be great if the fellow who has both models could measure the lengths of the 2 stands centers, since that would make it easier to decide on which model to buy, since it looks like the Baby is just a cut down Daddy stand.

 

Lobotomy of the standitation?

 

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Haha nice expression!

Well i actually thought of getting the "Papa" stand and cutting it "IN CASE I NEED TO" to the height i want. I know i'll lose the "storage" room for the second arm set.

 

I just checked the Online PDF for the Baby spider pro:

http://produkte.k-m.de/media/files_public/aufstellanleitungen/18840-000-30.pdf

 

So the highest point is 1 meter above the floor, assuming that the maximum for the arms is 95cm and that the Keyboard is around 7cm thick, the keybed will be between 1m and 1.05m.

 

I just tested this with my X stand and seems like the height is good.

 

Would love to see "ONE" picture, and i really mean ONE picture online of the Baby spider being used in a standing position with an actually person behind it (skimmed the whole internet and found nothing). That would at least give me a perspective.

 

Would love to hear from fellow keyboardists owning the Baby Spider pro, to send me any info or picture of their performance using the Baby while standing.

 

Again thanks

 

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Primarily because I have no life, here is a brief review of the new keyboard stand I've transitioned to, the K&M Baby Spider Pro, in black:

 

http://static.bhphotovideo.com/images/largeimages/695191.jpg

 

I purchased this from BH Photo Video in NY as they seemed to be the only retailer who stocked this. There are several online retailers selling the larger "Spider Pro", but not the shorter "Baby" version. The purchase process itself was a nightmare, as despite status on the web and several reassurances from BH, it actually took more than four months for the unit to finally arrive. Long horrible story, but this review is not intended to throw a retailer under the bus.

 

The stand itself is less "shiny" in person than the pic appears. It's a typical matte black anodized aluminum. The legs rotate into place and form a very stable, wide base. It can accommodate two sets of arms, and I purchased the additional pair for use in my multi-board gigs.

 

The height of the arms is infinitely adjustable, and thus the stand is very suitable for both sitting and standing use. The second tier can be placed at any distance from the first, thus very close matching of top/bottom boards are possible. The arms themselves extend out quite a bit, which I use for my Kronos 73 on the bottom (a pretty deep board), and so far stability has been fine. I'm 5'6" in height, and playing standing is very comfortable - but significantly taller player will probably be more comfortable in front of the taller Spider Pro version.

 

A small niggle is in order to use the second tier of arms, you have to take the plastic top cap off the unit, slide the plastic guide unit up and slide each arm into place, then slide the unit back into the stand to the desired height. It's a very quick procedure, but more twiddly than some stands provide. Once it's all in place, it's stable and good for the night, and the only bits to keep track of in the K&M carrying bag are the arms and the end cap.

 

Overall the unit is no heavier than the V-stand I was previously using, far more height adjustable, 2nd tier gets far tighter to the bottom tier, it's suitable for seated as well as standing playing, and when two-boarded, the height is appropriate visually (no huge totem towering up above the keyboards).

 

 

Sorry to necro an old thread, but I'm looking at getting a new 2 tier stand to replace my Z stand that takes FOREVER to set up... and the baby spider is a real contender -- could you answer a few questions for me?

 

1) How high are the tiers from the floor to the shelf for each? I want to make sure I can get the top tier as high as I want it, particularly

 

2) What is required for breakdown and setup of the 2nd tier? I have no less than 6 parts that need to all be screwed together with a number threaded knobs for the Z stand and want to eliminate all or most of the little fiddly bits that are required... What is the plastic cap that you said have to remove, and is there a way to leave two tiers safely installed without uncapping it? Also, any pics of this?

 

Thanks!

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I might have to modify this # when I get back to see my Spider Pro, but the other day on another thread someone asked about the overall height, and it was 50" from the floor to the very top. The 2 tiers can slide up and down to wherever you want, I hope that helps.

 

Ref the second question, for breakdown the 2 tiers slide down the shaft, the lowest to the far bottom, then you fold the arms upwards and in; then do the same with the upper section right on top of the lower, so the whole thing folds up neatly into the center shaft.

 

BTW, the arm adjustments extend out towards you I believe up to 7 notches for bigger boards. I'll have to measure tomorrow how far a notch spacing is, but I would guess a little over an inch between each notch.

 

I usually pull the bottom board all the way out to me to allow best visibility for the controls. I then keep the top board back as far as possible from me for maximum visibility spacing between the 2 boards. Hope that makes sense. For me that means the Electro 3 on bottom fully extended arms 7 notches out, the J50 on top just 1 or 2 notches.

 

 

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What keyboards are you planning to put on the Spider? If you play a lot of piano on a 88 note piano, I would not recommend getting a Spider. The extending arms tend wobble quite a lot while playing - not ideal! For two 61 key boards, the Spider may be quite alright, but for digital pianos there are many stands that are far better.

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1) How high are the tiers from the floor to the shelf for each? I want to make sure I can get the top tier as high as I want it, particularly

 

2) What is required for breakdown and setup of the 2nd tier? I have no less than 6 parts that need to all be screwed together with a number threaded knobs for the Z stand and want to eliminate all or most of the little fiddly bits that are required... What is the plastic cap that you said have to remove, and is there a way to leave two tiers safely installed without uncapping it? Also, any pics of this?

 

Thanks!

 

I've uploaded some set up pictures to the Dropbox folder linked below.

 

To answer your questions directly:

 

1) My top board is 42" above the floor, the bottom board is 34".

 

2) Because the top cap does nothing to secure the arms, I just keep two of the screws in for fast switchover from one to two arms.

 

3) I transport it to two-board gigs with both arms installed, and simply wrap it with a elastic motorcycle cargo net (and then put it into the K&M gig bag). Setup and tear down in less than a minute each.

 

My experience differs from mrTobbe re: 88-key digital pianos. I gig it weekly as a one-tier with a PX3 (admittedly a very light 88 key) but have found it rock solid. The other primary gig rig, as you can see, is a Kronos 73 (not a light board, though not a full 88) and the Nord Wave and have not experienced arm wobble problems either (knock on wood).

 

Anyway that's my experience with the baby spider pro. Hope this helps you.

 

Baby Spider Pro pix

 

The pix show normal install of the top tier arms and placement of boards. For standing playing, I'll often put the rear of the Wave on the center post (this is where it's handy to have that plastic cap) to provide screen access to the Kronos below (see last pic).

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timwat, I saw your dropbox pictures. I'm looking at the Baby Spider Pro as a replacement for my Quik Lok 2 tier stand that i use with a laptop rest attachment.

I'm strictly a seated player. So when i was sizing up the regular Spider Pro, it seemed, with the laptop rest attached at the top, from my seated position that would just be ridiculously high. Which brought me to the Baby Spider. I was wondering if you could advise on using the Baby Spider with a weighted 88 key board on the bottom (Roland RD-700), a lightweight 88 key controller on the top (88 key M-Audio keystation 88) and the laptop rest above it. Do you think that's even possible, given the limited height of the Baby Spider?

 

I see the way you have your top tier and it's not the way i imagined it. You're able to store the arms inside the post? I was under the impression that the arms were not removable. Your pictures indicate otherwise. Any help would be appreciated.

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Jeremy - it can be done, you can have two boards on a Baby Spider, but I would strongly advice against it. The stand is simply not built to handle two heavy 88 boards. The base is solid as a rock, but the extending arms are not, in my strong opinion. Trust me - they will wobble if you put your RD700 on there and start playing.

 

There's also a big design flaw in the arms - the only thing holding them in the correct angle is a piece of hard rubber at the inner end of the arms. Now - two things can happen - the rubber gets loosened and gets lost - then the arm will be far from horisontal. This happened to me a week ago - fortunately I found it. If I hadn't, I would have hade to buy another pair of arms, since the rubber piece isn't available as a spare part... The other thing that will happen, which happened to a friend of mine, is that the rubber piece will wear out eventually, making the arms start having a slanting angle. Of course this gets worse over time.

 

Also - there's no Baby Spider Pro. You buy a Baby Spider and an extra set of arms. Yes, you can add another pair of arms and they are removable, but not in an easy way. You need to remove five screws and since these are going straight into the aluminum base I think they you will destroy the screw threads if you loosen them too many times. One of the screws in my stand is already a bit loose, after removing and putting them back only two times.

Last but not least, when the you have two set of arms in the baby spider, neither pair will fold into the base - the base is simply too short. You can fold in the upper pair, but then the lower pair wont fold in at all - very impractical for transport. The best thing to do is have both pairs partially folded in, but it will still be a bit awkward to transport when there's nothing holding arms in place.

 

Altogether - IMHO is a good looking stand, but not a good one. Wouldn't really recommend it to anyone. If they would come up with a better, more robust design for the arms, it could be great, but as it is, no...

 

I use my Baby Spider nowadays with one pair of arms. The other pair I've kept as a spare. I mostly use it as a third tier above my 18950 and on it I have a big shelf of effect units and a mixer. I used the Spider by itself last week. It was ok when for the Nord Stage 2 sw 73 alone, but I wouldn't put anything heavier on the arms. I also used the laptop shelf as a upper tier for a shelf with various gear. At least the laptop shelf is solidly built!

 

For the rig you're describing I would recommend a K&M 18950 with the 18953 upper tiers and the 18815 laptop shelf. I have one without the laptop shelf and it is solid as a rock! Now, it may not look as cool as a Baby Spider, but you're playing experience will be nicer, I'm sure.

 

18950 (you can have the upper tiers much wider apart then the pictures show, actually the whole base is adjustable in width):

http://produktedev.koenigundmeyer.com/en/Keyboard-stands/Keyboard-tables/18950-TABLE-STYLE-KEYBOARD-STAND-black

 

18815 computer shelf:

http://produktedev.koenigundmeyer.com/en/Keyboard-stands/Keyboard-tables/18815-Laptop-holder-black

 

Too much stuff, too little time, too few gigs, should spend more time practicing...!  🙄

main instruments: Nord Stage 3 compact, Yamaha CP88, Kurzweil PC4, Viscount KeyB Legend Live

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