Caevan O’Shite Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 ______ [video:youtube] Sounds pretty damn Marshall-"plexi" for a 2x6V6, 3 to 22 watt amp, huh?! The thing that would seal the deal for me is their proprietary Master Voltage yeilding continuous controll of the power from 22 watts all the way down to 3 watts without having to re-adjust the other controls to compensate for changes in tone and gain. http://www.thestringnetwork.com/images/smilies/icon_e_geek.gifhttp://www.thestringnetwork.com/images/smilies/eek.gif Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 That SUCKS... (that I don't have one) Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 That SUCKS... (that I don't have one) Same here! But it's very high on my as-soon-as-I-can-afford-one list! Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I'm sitting here- totally in love with my 40w Fender HRD 1x12 Combo- but just like the man says, for practical reasons, I can't really crank the thing and let it stretch it's tonal legs. I've never run it higher than 4. If nothing else, my doggies would hate me. But nearly $3k for a slower wattage amp that gets me the tone I want at volumes I can live with... It all seems so...bass-ackwards. I mean, I can go and get Ferrari-level performance from vehicles that cost a fraction of the price- like Caterhams (exotic, tiny and affordable)- but the amp world has no such analog. Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 I'm sitting here- totally in love with my 40w Fender HRD 1x12 Combo- but just like the man says, for practical reasons, I can't really crank the thing and let it stretch it's tonal legs. I've never run it higher than 4. If nothing else, my doggies would hate me. But nearly $3k for a slower wattage amp that gets me the tone I want at volumes I can live with... It all seems so...bass-ackwards. I mean, I can go and get Ferrari-level performance from vehicles that cost a fraction of the price- like Caterhams (exotic, tiny and affordable)- but the amp world has no such analog. Hmmmnn; You might try a set of THD designed Yellow Jacket tube adapters; they allow you to swap out your 6L6 output-tubes for little EL84's, dropping the wattage and converting to cathode-biased Class-A Push-Pull operation similar to that of many Vox amps. ____ [video:youtube] Or, maybe consider tradin'-up for a Fuchs 4 Aces or Lucky 7 Mk II? Either model in a 1x12 combo currently goes for less than half the cost of the Empire head... (See video below) The 4 Aces is a Class-A/B amp that puts out 4 watts from two 6SN7 tubes (usually found in preamps), switchable to 2 watts with the removal of one output-tube. It has two channels with a boost-switch and reverb. The Lucky 7 Mk II is a true single-ended Class-A amp that puts out 7 watts from one EL34 tube (yhup, EL34, as found in many Marshalls), switchable to 5 watts if a 6V6 is used instead with a re-bias. It also has two channels with a boost-switch and reverb. I can easily imagine your liking one of these 1x12 combo versions. I have an old, first version Lucky 7 head, and let me tell you two things: ONE, it is shockingly LOUD for a 7 watt amp, able to hang with drums, bass, and another guitar, capable of plenty clean enough tones at that volume if I roll back my guitar's volume-knob and pick with a light touch; and TWO, mine is NOT for sale (even if I get a 65 Amos Empire!). It sounds pretty cool by itself, but actually sounds better in a live band context, with a presence and cut that just won't give up. I get all my "channel switching" done with the guitar's volume-knob and picking-dynamics. It's actually TOO loud for many situations at the sweetest of sweet-spots on its Volume control, too! With that in mind, the Empire's Master Voltage control is a MAJOR selling-point for me here. If I could have THAT in my Lucky 7, I'd be VERY happy just to buy a particularly sweet 2x12 with a couple of, say, Scumback and Scumnico speakers in it and be on my happy way. I still plan on getting such a cab for my old Lucky 7 head, but man, do I want an Empire!! Here's Andy Fuchs himself demoing the 4 Aces head with their new Buzz Feiten-designed Fuchs closed-back 2x12 cab: ____ [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj1sxPseHV0 Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simus35 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 because you now i want this amp too and because that my wife is angry sorry for my english i'm a french Canadien fender 65 Twin Reverb reissue Fender Stratocaster 1999 MIA Fender Stratocaster 2013 MIA Godin Artisan ST-5 Godin LG Signature Seagull S6 Yes I love Godin guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 because you now i want this amp too and because that my wife is angry It's bad enough that I want one! C'est déjà bien assez que je veux un! Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I'm beginning to suspect Caevan is actually an Amp Pusher... "Hey, m'Man...I got whet you neeeeeed! Take a taste of THIS audio ambrosia..." Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Fraser Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 $1300 for a 4 watt head. Different price/power ratio than most of us are accustomed to. But Andy's demo is VERY impressive. Scott Fraser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkjimiphoton Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 jesus, guys...why ya wanna pay so much for a goddamn tube amp? you could BUILD one for 300 bux or so, and make it any way ya want to, and its most assuredly NOT rocket science...or mojo. i mean....hello? to me, this is ridiculous. get an old combo from the 50's or 60's somewhere, and mod the hell out of it. spend the extra cash ya have left over on a new guitar or a phat sack. hell, even having a tech do it, you'll have most of that money left over still, and have a better amp. 90% of all the claims of bells and whistles are smoke and mirrors, guys. don't buy into it. if you change the amp's output power (remember my post about power scaling amps a couple months ago?) it will DEFINITELY change the tone...fletcher munson effect is physical, you can't change physics with retarded claims. i cry bullsh*t. how many times over the years have ya fallen for the same old hype? ssdd, here, gents. best of luck with the GAS. i bet ya already have something in your arsenal that sounds just as good, and is probably way more versatile. http://www.sweetrelief.org/ https://www.wepay.com/donations/memorial-stone-for-juliane-pocius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 you could BUILD one for 300 bux or so, and make it any way ya want to, and its most assuredly NOT rocket science...or mojo. Well...some of us surely could. Me, though? Men in my lineage should not be allowed to work with tools beyond a knife, hammer or screwdriver. My Dad tried changing a float valve and flooded the house. I caused a nice electrical arc while changing a lightbulb once. I played my electric guitar through a Korg Pandora for 2 years before buying my Fender HRD, partly because I was convinced an amp capacitor with my name on it is out there... Besides, my only education in circuitry was back in the 1980s and that wasn't hands-on. Assuming I succeeded without injuring anyone, the resulting Frankenamp would probably have more in common with the Cadillac from Johnny Cash's "One piece at a time" than...well...anything else in the universe. Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 jesus, guys...why ya wanna pay so much for a goddamn tube amp? you could BUILD one for 300 bux or so, and make it any way ya want to, and its most assuredly NOT rocket science...or mojo. i mean....hello? to me, this is ridiculous. get an old combo from the 50's or 60's somewhere, and mod the hell out of it. spend the extra cash ya have left over on a new guitar or a phat sack. hell, even having a tech do it, you'll have most of that money left over still, and have a better amp. 90% of all the claims of bells and whistles are smoke and mirrors, guys. don't buy into it. if you change the amp's output power (remember my post about power scaling amps a couple months ago?) it will DEFINITELY change the tone...fletcher munson effect is physical, you can't change physics with retarded claims. i cry bullsh*t. how many times over the years have ya fallen for the same old hype? ssdd, here, gents. best of luck with the GAS. i bet ya already have something in your arsenal that sounds just as good, and is probably way more versatile. (Meant in the spirit of a bunch of folks sittin' around in a pub bantering and kickin' the ball around on various subjects) Build me THAT amp, that will do EXACTLY EVERYTHING that THAT amp will do to a "T", and I'll give you $300 for it. Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkjimiphoton Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 lol...could probably do it if i had the 300 to invest. the most expensive parts are the transformers, then the tubes, then the pots...the rest is a handful or two of parts. figure chassis...scrounged or sheet metal...50 buxish transformers...power, about 50 bux output about the same sockets.....20 bux caps...40 bux resistors 10 bux pots 30 bux tubes 50 bux my math sucks of course, but we're around 300 here to build damn near anything up to about 50 watts the point is, in the sitting round the campfire trading licks and bs stories, if ya start with an amp ya already got, it's probably even cheaper. it is impossible to build an amp that "sounds the same" at different output powers without tweaking the preamp...the louder it is, the more treble and bass it would seem to produce, the quieter the less. it's just physics. we've been playing this game for years with gear manufacturers...i choose not to buy it anymore. i've had so many amps over the years, it'd make your ass hurt. most were quite capable of some amazing things, i'm more of an amp monger than a guitar one. but claims like this i've heard before. and usually they have opamps at best, and sometimes little computers inside them to make the claims come true.. i guess i'm saying, i'm from misouri...lol http://www.sweetrelief.org/ https://www.wepay.com/donations/memorial-stone-for-juliane-pocius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkjimiphoton Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 power scaling as practiced by kevin o'connor at london sound (the ultimate tone series of books) will even tell ya how to pull off this trick in the video. three different input stages into one tone stack into a power scaled power amp. nothing i've heard can't be replicated. the preamps he's "using" are all damn close to the same western electric circuit. just being devil's advocate here. http://www.sweetrelief.org/ https://www.wepay.com/donations/memorial-stone-for-juliane-pocius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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