keyClicker Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hey guys... I'm thinking about purchasing a Clavinova CLP-465GP. Obviously I have no intention to move it around. It will stay indoors. [video:youtube]zCjDufYOCis Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyClicker Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Vh9Tr504ca0/TgvfzxK8FlI/AAAAAAAAH08/IcmAzLG2IA0/s200/okay%2Bguy%2Bmeme%2B%25284%2529.jpg okay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoodyBluesKeys Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Back in the 80's and first half of the 90's, my firm was an Authorized Yamaha Service Center. The Clavinova products at the time were well put together using quality materials. The higher end ones did play well. The Clavinova line is only sold through Yamaha's full line piano dealers (in contrast to some similar units marketed under other trademarks by Yamaha). Kurzweil makes a similar unit - called the X-Pro MG. The electronics are modified from the PC3X, some patch changes, things moved about to accomodate the grand case, with internal amplification. Howard Grand|Hamm SK1-73|Kurz PC2|PC2X|PC3|PC3X|PC361; QSC K10's HP DAW|Epi Les Paul & LP 5-str bass|iPad mini2 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyClicker Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 Thanks. I'm curious about the ac.piano sound and the keys. That's all I want really. No extra voices, etc. Do you think it can compete with the sound of the NordPiano, for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoodyBluesKeys Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I've never heard either. I did have an Electro 3, but that is not the same as the Nord Piano. I would think the Nord would have more loadable variations - Yamaha tends to make electronic boards that have ONLY Yamaha acoustics, whereas Nord uses a number of different pianos. I liked the Nord Bosendorfer Grand, but in the end I sold the Electro for considerably more than I paid when I added the PC361. I personally like the Kurzweil pianos, but that seems to be an area that people either like or dislike. The target Clavinova market is not pros, but home users that want a very nice piece of furniture that also has a good sound (nothing wrong with that, if I didn't have a real grand, my living room would certainly look better with the Kurzweil X-Pro MG than with a PC3X, stand, and external amps). Some of the home electronic pianos do NOT sound so good. Our church has a donated Samick in the tiny grand shape - it has very little dynamic range. But, it would look good in a living room. Also, some of the higher end units have a price that would allow buying a real piano (although not a Tier 1 by any means). In sound quality, I think the Clavinova would have good sound, but if you go that route, you will HAVE to locate a dealer that carries them, they are not sold by Internet dealers. So, you can play it before buying and see what you think. The sales method also means that it is harder to get a competitive pricing. Howard Grand|Hamm SK1-73|Kurz PC2|PC2X|PC3|PC3X|PC361; QSC K10's HP DAW|Epi Les Paul & LP 5-str bass|iPad mini2 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non ce futuro Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 The 465 is almost identical to clp-430. Both have the same action (GH3), sound (RGE sound engine with smooth release and damper resonance samples), half-pedal, etc. They have different amp power and speakers, probably due to the 465 having speakers inside the cabinet looking upwards Amplifiers clp-430 :30W x 2 clp-465GP: 40W x 2 Speakers clp-430: 16cm x 2 [6 5/16" x 2] clp-465GP: Speaker Box (16cm + 5cm) x 2 [(6 5/16 + 1 15/16) x 2] So it would be easy to check the action and quality of the sounds just testing a clp-430 (easy to find those in the stores), and just take into account that the sound will probably be a bit better on the 465. In my opinion, it has a good action and nice piano sound,so good instrument to have at home. The grand-style cabinet is cool really cool. I wouldn't compare it with the nord piano, though, they're different types of instrumentsmeant for different uses. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 The action is plastic, not wood, so it's not the best Clavinova action that Yamaha offers. You're basically paying for the nice cabinet moreso than a nice feel. If you're after the best Clavinova feel, look to the CLP470 or CLP480, as they have far superior (real wood keys) actions than the 465GP, which (as non c'e futuro mentions above) is essentially a CLP430 (entry level Clavinova) in a mini-grand cabinet. So, depends on what you're looking for; aesthetics, or performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non ce futuro Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 If you're after the best feel, look to the CLP470 or CLP480, as they have far superior (real wood keys) actions than the 465GP Exactly, best clavinova actions comes on 470/480. But to be more precise (I know you love to be precise Sven )CLP-470/480 is not exactly the best action Yamaha offers. That would be AvantGrand pianos, they have a real grand piano keyboard mechanism. Not on the same price range, of course, but also 470/480 are more expensive than 465GP. At least in Europe, AvantGrand N1 is a just bit higher priced than 480, for example. Regarding action, I played intensively both clp-480 and AvantGrand N1, and the action is really apples & oranges. 480 has a very nice action, but AvantGrand smokes every DP I tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 CLP-470/480 is not exactly the best action Yamaha offers. That would be AvantGrand pianos, they have a real grand piano keyboard mechanism. Yes, obviously, but we're discussing Clavinova models here. I also didn't mention that the Disklavier was better, being a real grand piano, but perhaps I should have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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keyClicker Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 I'm also considering buying the 465GP because of its price. I want a good piano sound with good keys. For example, I like my Privia Px300 keys. If it's just equal to the Privia I can live with it. But, about the sound. I wonder where I can find some demos. :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non ce futuro Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/user/yamahacorporation#p/search/0/r6vrdMrLSLw 465 sound identical to those 430 (a bit better probably). And I think the action is better than on px300. 465 is really a nice instrument, good price tag for what it offers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyClicker Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 I found this video... Thought it was pretty cool. [video:youtube]rVGLdeV8Qcg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Hey guys... I'm thinking about purchasing a Clavinova CLP-465GP. Obviously I have no intention to move it around. It will stay indoors. [video:youtube]zCjDufYOCis Any thoughts? this isn't an instrument you can ' flip ' in 5 years and recover much of your purchase price. Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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