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Adele is supposed to dominate this year. I for one, think she is great. I have been following her since before her 19 album, I saw her on TV. Her album 19 is way better then the 21 album, however she will have a collection of Grammys for 21. But hey, she deserves it.

 

I normally despise awards shows, but Adele deserves the adulation.

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Our guitar player is out there. He plays with a local artist that does childrens music, Miss Amy. Her second nomination, I hope she wins this time.

 

He was pretty excited about the nominees reception because I think the Allmans are up for Lifetime Achievement (?) and Greg and Warren Haynes might be there. And there was pretty reliable talk Dickey would be there too!

 

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Competent singer makes album with drums, bass, piano, guitar, strings, horns, and no obvious autotuning. Sells a trillion copies. And musicians complain? I don't get it.

 

I wouldn't call myself a fan (though there are some tunes I like on 21), but from where I'm sitting, it's a positive trend.

 

Sure would like to see a Wilco win in Best Rock Album.

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Competent singer makes album with drums, bass, piano, guitar, strings, horns, and no obvious autotuning. Sells a trillion copies. And musicians complain? I don't get it.

There's nothing particularly objectionable about Adele -- certainly the fact that she's overplayed is not her fault -- but there's also nothing particularly special about her either.

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I'm already over-saturated wtih the Grammys. There is a big hullaballoo regarding NARAS's decision to cut 31 categories of American roots music (including Latin Jazz, yes -- which was born on US soil -- but also Hawaiian, Klezmer, some categories of blues and soul, polka, Cajun, etc). I have mixed feelings about the movement to boycott it, since I fear the boycott is just making the governing body dig their heels in and refuse to change their stance. I do think all these groups have a right to be upset, particularly given NARAS's claims to celebrate the nation's "musical diversity" but I fear the movement has become an energy-suck ... I hope that is just my perception because things are at a feverish pitch given that the Grammy televised event is this weekend, but ...

 

If anyone is interested to learn more about that, I think this is a solid link:

 

http://www.grammywatch.org/?p=227#

 

And this one, where Mark Levine returns his nomination medal and renounces his membership. Quite remarkable:

 

http://www.grammywatch.org/?p=254#

 

I am NOT condoning or politicizing anything here and I hope it isn't taken as such. I just feel I have to at least mention that this is going on because there is a high probability many don't even know about it. Of course you will (and should) absolutely make up your own mind how you feel about it.

 

My personal opinion is, however, that this issue is pertinent when discussing why it appears to not be "a really exciting time for music" when taken under consideration the image of the "state of the art" that the Grammys is presenting.

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Yeah I think rearranging my sock drawer would take precedence to watching a Grammy telecast.. ;) Last year right after we just got the digital TV recorder on our cable, we might have watched it on fast forward with two arrows, most of the time it was 3 arrows. Boy sure goes by fast and sounds much better too,, :D

 

I remember that grammy tiff from last year. Mark Levine is someone I look up to-as a composer, educator and pianist. Kudos to him..

 

On the other hand I'm glad to see my friends Tierney Sutton and her Trio nominated in the best jazz vocal category. I hope they get more gigs out of it.

 

Glad to see Gerald Clayton getting recognition too. One of the very few young players I enjoy listening to.

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I hear you Michelle. In my industry people typically invent awards when they want someone notable to show up. Reducing categories tells you something about the reverse intent.

 

Funnily enough this is the first year I'm paying remote attention to them because my friend & teacher Mark Soskin arranged and played on Roseanne Vitro's "The Music of Randy Newman" (also nominated in Jazz vocal, six degrees is a funny thing).

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Competent singer makes album with drums, bass, piano, guitar, strings, horns, and no obvious autotuning. Sells a trillion copies. And musicians complain? I don't get it.

There's nothing particularly objectionable about Adele -- certainly the fact that she's overplayed is not her fault -- but there's also nothing particularly special about her either.

 

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Competent singer makes album with drums, bass, piano, guitar, strings, horns, and no obvious autotuning. Sells a trillion copies. And musicians complain? I don't get it.

There's nothing particularly objectionable about Adele -- certainly the fact that she's overplayed is not her fault -- but there's also nothing particularly special about her either.

 

I think part of the reason there's a perceived backlash against Adele is how blown out of proportion she is. Sure, she's making real music with real instruments and a real voice, but... So what? Adele isn't the problem, she represents the problem. Or the exception, I suppose. In a similar way to Mumford & Sons, they all make pretty mainstream music that actually made it into the mainstream.

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I make no apology for repeating my previous comments on Adele:

I like to think I have pretty broad tastes and can recognise some musical value in most genres, even if I don't particularly like them. But I just don't get this Adele stuff, I really don't. Dull boring non-tunes and bland doggerel lyrics, and its not as if she is a looker or great jolly character either (not that I am in a position to judge!). Yet she clearly has sold millions of records both sides of the Atlantic. Good luck to her, but I just don't get it.
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I was never a "Someone Like You" guy, but I think "Rolling In The Deep" is very well produced. I do expect she will win a Grammy. I like Bon Iver a lot and can see them winning as well, but they don't buy into this Grammy awards stuff, and I certainly don't blame them.

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I think what Adele brings to the table is a white girl, oozing with soul, not trying to sound black. In an age where everyone's trying to be the next Beyonce, that's refreshing. It's not that I don't enjoy the latter, but I think it's way overdone, and therefore less interesting.

 

Good pop songs with a real band feel make it all work very nicely.

 

I have also learned how to overcome the problem of songs / artists being overplayed. My secret? I reach for the knob & change stations. :laugh:

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I'll end up watching the Grammys only because a) the NFL season is over and b) I want to see what they through together to acknowledge Whitney Houston.

 

If I hear some happening music, that would be great. Otherwise, the Grammys has been irrelevant to me for more than two decades now. :cool:

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Alicia Keys and Bonnie Raitt just did a very nice and classy duet.

 

Unfortunately now we are subjected to that abusive, woman beating piece of ish Chris Brown. Someone need to take him out back and let him experience exactly what he dished out. :mad:

 

 

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Jason Aldean and Kelly Clarkson

 

I was going to ask how much of this is prerecorded, but Jason Aldean's mic just cut out at the end of their performance. :sick:

 

 

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I don't get all the Adele bashing around here. I also recall a bunch of Amy Winehouse bashing.

 

To not like it is one thing. To discredit a young artist developing into a bona fide singer/songwriter blows my mind. What has she done to deserve such hate?

 

Personally, I bought 21 and think it's great front to back. Nothing groundbreaking. Just good, solid songwriting delivered by some serious vocal chops.

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