Jim Alfredson Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Lookin' for a VST Wurli for my road rig. Which one would you choose? http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/powered-by-kontakt/scarbee-vintage-keys/?page=1360 http://www.soniccouture.com/en/products/24-the-attic/g31-broken-wurli/ Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Dirk Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I chose the Sonic Couture offering as little birthday present to myself last week. I really love the tonal variety that can be achieved with mixing the broken speaker, good speaker, and the line out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 How does it run? What kind of latencies are you getting? Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Dirk Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I did the key clack vs audio test and I'm coming up with .014 latency. This is my first time testing this, so I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. I'm using Garageband as the host, and I couldn't find in the preferences, or in the Kontakt player, what my buffer is set to. I'm also running this on a 2.4 Ghz (Intel Core 2) Macbook Pro with 4GB RAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I would choose Soniccouture over Scarbee, but have you considered MrTramp2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Aiken Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I would choose Scarbee over MrTramp2 - and indeed would take pianoteq's wurly over MrTramp if I wanted a non sample based solution. I own all three of those. Have not tried the Soniccouture, but will probably grab it at some point. The demos sound impressive, and there is enough positive feedback out there to convince me. All that said - I use Scarbee live routinely, through the VKFX plugin, and it is astoundingly good and extremely playable. I would rather play it than most wurlys. Moog The One, VV 64 EP, Wurlies 200A 140 7300, Forte 7, Mojo 61, OB-6, Prophet 6, Polaris, Hammond A100, Farfisa VIP, ,Young Chang 6', Voyager, E7 Clav, Midiboard, Linnstrument, Seaboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Jim, Didn't you post a while back that you bought Pianoteq PLAY? What about using that Wurli sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 I actually downloaded Mr. Tramp2 last night. The Privia PX-3 Wurli sounds better, imo. My issue with all the Wurli emulations I have now, including Pianoteq, is that they are too clean. I currently have at my disposal the Privia, the Motif ES rack, Mr. Tramp2, and Pianoteq. The reason I'm drawn to the Soniccouture is because it can be really dirty if need be but even the raw sound has that funkyness that a real Wurli has. Last year I ran the Motif ES rack Wurli sound through a small guitar distortion pedal to get some grit. It was pretty good. I might just stick with that for the time being. Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Then the Broken Wurli is a no-brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Also, are you still aiming to get an SK1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 Not anytime soon. No money for that. Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Aiken Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I agree about the "too clean", which is why I run Scarbee (or Piantoeq Wurly) through the VKFX plugin . Lately sometimes Amplitude instead, but the VKFX does the trick pretty well, can be subtle and is not resource intensive. Moog The One, VV 64 EP, Wurlies 200A 140 7300, Forte 7, Mojo 61, OB-6, Prophet 6, Polaris, Hammond A100, Farfisa VIP, ,Young Chang 6', Voyager, E7 Clav, Midiboard, Linnstrument, Seaboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Aiken Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 You might also want to look at Sampletekks tubed Wurly, which was sampled through a Fender Twin. Moog The One, VV 64 EP, Wurlies 200A 140 7300, Forte 7, Mojo 61, OB-6, Prophet 6, Polaris, Hammond A100, Farfisa VIP, ,Young Chang 6', Voyager, E7 Clav, Midiboard, Linnstrument, Seaboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgoo Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I've been pretty happy with the Scarbee Wurly that I use whenever I don't take my real one out. I run it through a gtr amp simulator for a little grit which helps. My only complaint is that it spanks a little too easily, but that's probably more an issue of the limited curves offered by my POS controller. I'm not familiar with the other option you mentioned. Custom Music, Audio Post Production, Location Audio www.gmma.biz https://www.facebook.com/gmmamusic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Last year I ran the Motif ES rack Wurli sound through a small guitar distortion pedal to get some grit. It was pretty good. I might just stick with that for the time being. The Motif wurlys ain't horrible. Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davinwv Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 If you want grit, the Broken Wurli is for you. I have both the Broken Wurli and the Scarbee, and I find myself using both depending on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 You might also want to look at Sampletekks tubed Wurly, which was sampled through a Fender Twin. I checked out the demos a while back and thought it lacked presence. I think it would get buried in a mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 Today for our first rehearsal I just used the Motif ES rack Wurli. It actually sounds really good. I'd like to increase the tremolo effect but I seem to recall that involves using the computer-based editor, is that correct? Or can I do it from the front panel? I'm broke as an unfunny joke right now so no new software for me. Tough winter. I'm glad to be back on the road making some money. Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 FYI, I love the sound of the Broken Wurly but I have issues with playing back on my system. I get pops and glitches. 128 sample buffer size. Scarbee works perfectly on the same system. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 Thanks for the heads-up. What's your system? I'm reading the Motif ES manual PDF. Anyone know if the Wurli tremolo is actually coming from the effects section or is it just an LFO? I should've brought the rack back to my hotel room to mess with tonight. Oh well. Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockkeys Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 When I used to play an S90XS, I would run 'natural wurly' and programmed the "old amp" effect....best wurly I've ever played outside of the real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 Hmmm... wonder if there's something similar in the ES. Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Loving Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The Scarbee is the one I use and it never occurred to me it was lacking. Good tone IMO "Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 I think I'll pick it up after this tour. Or not if the I'm still happy with the Motif. The one in the Privia PX3 ain't bad either after tweaking. I should run it through my little distortion pedal and see if that dirties it up enough. Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I think I wrote up my Wurly review in the earlier Rhodes review a few weeks back, as that one went off on tangents for all the other electro-mechanical keyboards. I have retired my Scarbee Wurly library since buying Soniccouture's Broken Wurly. The Soniccouture library seems better able to react to playing nuances, and is quite versatile even if you're looking for clean. The sampling is excellent as is the programming. I find the samples themselves to have more detail due to mic positions and how the sessions were run. Eugenio Upright, 60th Ann P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico Bari, Dano Bari Select Strat/Tele, Am Pro Jazzmaster, LP 57 Gold, G5422DC-12, T486, T64, PM2, EXL1, XK4, Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Tonewheel Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I have retired my Scarbee Wurly library since buying Soniccouture's Broken Wurly. +1! Did the same here. Broken Wurli is warmer sounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Aiken Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Ok, I have been happily using Scarbee live for years, but this thread is forcing me to get Broken Wurly later today. Moog The One, VV 64 EP, Wurlies 200A 140 7300, Forte 7, Mojo 61, OB-6, Prophet 6, Polaris, Hammond A100, Farfisa VIP, ,Young Chang 6', Voyager, E7 Clav, Midiboard, Linnstrument, Seaboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick w Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Just listened to the Scarbee Pianet. Once again I have to raise the question asked here before, why won't Nord offer me a Pianet for download to my E3? Locating a decent sound source can't be rocket science. BTW Broken Wurly sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Nord does offer one. Look under PH Pianos. http://www.nordkeyboards.com/main.asp?tm=Sound%20Libraries&cllibr=Nord_Sample_Library&clslib=Acoustic/Electric_Pianos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick w Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Thanks. I must have missed that when I downloaded a couple of things the other day from their website. Although after listening to that tiny snippet from their soundsample it certainly didn't have any of the sound qualities I recognize from classic recordings. I will download it in the next couple of days and mess around with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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