kelp Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Regardless of Hardware, software, analog, digital... Nord Lead A1; Yamaha P-125; QSC K10; Cubase 12 Pro; Windows 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I have Pro53 and it is pretty nice. Moe --- "I keep wanting to like it's sound, but every demo seems to demonstrate that it has the earth-shaking punch and peerless sonics of the Roland Gaia. " - Tusker http://www.hotrodmotm.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Pro53 sounds good. Better yet is the Creamware recreation, both in software for the SCOPE platform and the ASB Pro-12 hardware module. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Pro53 sounds good. Better yet is the Creamware recreation, both in software for the SCOPE platform and the ASB Pro-12 hardware module. Great you mentioned Creamware /Sonic Core "Profit 5" (that´s what it´s called now in Scope environment). http://sonic-core.net/joomla.soniccore/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=109&Itemid=128&lang=us Cheapest and better than Pro53, which I also own, but PC only: "Messiah" http://www.memorymoon.com/messiah.htm best, but also for Scope platform only: Pro-Wave by Zarg Music/John Bowen http://www.zargmusic.com/products.html AFAIK, it´s features are implemented in J.B. Solaris too. A.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelp Posted January 7, 2012 Author Share Posted January 7, 2012 Is the ASB Pro-12 no longer made? Can't seem to find one. Nord Lead A1; Yamaha P-125; QSC K10; Cubase 12 Pro; Windows 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Just checked out the demos for that memorymoon stuff and they sound really good. Moe --- "I keep wanting to like it's sound, but every demo seems to demonstrate that it has the earth-shaking punch and peerless sonics of the Roland Gaia. " - Tusker http://www.hotrodmotm.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Nord Lead does a great Prophet 5 sim. They put the original P5 presets into one of the banks starting with NL2 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgoo Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I have the Pro 53 & i like it a lot- especially with the added high pass filter. i just got the Arturia V-Collection which includes their version fo the Prophet 5 (which is also a replica of the VS). So far it seems good but I haven't done any A-B comparisons against the Pro 53 yet. Custom Music, Audio Post Production, Location Audio www.gmma.biz https://www.facebook.com/gmmamusic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Just checked out the demos for that memorymoon stuff and they sound really good. Get Messiah ! I did programming advice for it and I beta test ALL 3 virtual instruments. I did it for fun and because I wanted a cool emulation of my former and modded real Prophet 5 rev.3. With the updates more and more features and improvements went in. It never crashed here. Messiah is extremely lite on CPU,- so it runs on a VMachine w/ ease,- it´s made for live gigging. What´s under the hood oscillator wise has not much to do w/ a Prophet 5 anymore if you use the advanced options. There´s much more than what you see on the front panel. It morphs complex waves and there´s impressive MIDI control. The factory patches are very good and very usable for players. Memorymoon and ME80 won´t run on a VMachine I fear,- these need more CPU,- ME80 the most. Memorymoon is separate voice design similar to OPX Pro/ Pro II. The audio demos on the website don´t tell you much,- the plugins have much more to offer. A.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GustavS Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I have the profit 5 in a Noah EX. I think it´s great, and if you don´t mind using a rather heavy rack unit with limited controlknobs, its a pretty decent hardware solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GustavS Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Nord Lead does a great Prophet 5 sim. They put the original P5 presets into one of the banks starting with NL2 I believe. + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I have the profit 5 in a Noah EX. I think it´s great, and if you don´t mind using a rather heavy rack unit with limited controlknobs, its a pretty decent hardware solution. I know it, I´m on Scope 4 w/ a 15DSP card and one of my friends gigs w/ Noah and a rackmout PC for VST stuff. I´m actually waiting for the Sonic Core news and hold back buying Scope 5.1 upgrade for my old card. There´s something going on ... http://sonic-core.net/joomla.soniccore/index.php Can be it´s a new DSP card including Scope 5.1 and all the devices. A.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahush76 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The fact that the new dsi prophet 08 isn't on the list is certainly something to think about... Vermona Perfourmer mkii, Nord Stage 3 76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosendorphen Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Just checked out the demos for that memorymoon stuff and they sound really good. Get Messiah ! I did programming advice for it and I beta test ALL 3 virtual instruments. I did it for fun and because I wanted a cool emulation of my former and modded real Prophet 5 rev.3. With the updates more and more features and improvements went in. It never crashed here. Messiah is extremely lite on CPU,- so it runs on a VMachine w/ ease,- it´s made for live gigging. +1 Messiah came pre-installed on my V-Machine V2. It's terrific and I particularly like its distorted guitar patches. They really cut and easily go from boomy to knife-cutting with a move of the mod wheel or other controller. Great for hooking up to my Roland AX-1 for some self-embarrassing onstage "guitar" shredding! I'd never heard of Messiah before I got the V-Machine. "The devil take the poets who dare to sing the pleasures of an artist's life." - Gottschalk Soundcloud Aethellis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The fact that the new dsi prophet 08 isn't on the list is certainly something to think about... The Prophet 08 is a good sounding synth, but has DCOs, not VCOs like a Prophet 5. All in all it´s more comparable to a Prophet 600 than a Prophet 5. The haptics of a Prophet 08 decide for a buying decision IMO. For the crowd using computers or VST players and MIDI controllers or the few using a DSP system like SCOPE and already having enough keyboards it might be a question of investment. A.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 +1 Messiah came pre-installed on my V-Machine V2. It's terrific and I particularly like its distorted guitar patches. They really cut and easily go from boomy to knife-cutting with a move of the mod wheel or other controller. Great for hooking up to my Roland AX-1 for some self-embarrassing onstage "guitar" shredding! I'd never heard of Messiah before I got the V-Machine. Don´t know if you did already, but maybe it´s usefull for you. Go here ... http://www.memorymoon.com/downloads.htm ... scroll down and look for the controller templates available for Messiah. Maybe you use one of these controller keyboards. There´s also a template to control it from a Prophet 08 ... :-) A.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Just checked out the demos for that memorymoon stuff and they sound really good. If you ordered a VMachine V2 @Thomann,- Messiah comes pre-installed already since early 2011. Contact GunnarE how it works w/ the latest updates. http://s2.excoboard.com/Memorymoon/149940 A.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Thanks, looking forward to it! Moe --- "I keep wanting to like it's sound, but every demo seems to demonstrate that it has the earth-shaking punch and peerless sonics of the Roland Gaia. " - Tusker http://www.hotrodmotm.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT156 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 by Al Coda: The Prophet 08 is a good sounding synth, but has DCOs, not VCOs like a Prophet 5. Besides that, the filter on the Prophet 08 is not up to snuff. Its OK for musical sounds, but if you want dramatic filter sweeps or other weirdness, it falls short. The Nord Lead may have presets similar to the Prophet 5, but it sounds much to "digital". That could be because..........it is. Early digital synths were far too "clean" at best, or too harsh. Fail. Mike T. Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Emulations of classic synths are hard, because the old circuits become more unstable (richer sounding?) before they conk out. I've used a Nord Modular (bigger brother to the Nord Leads 1 and 2 and having the "Nord filters" along with a better sounding LPF) for several years. I know the "Nord filters" intimately and having tricked them out with feedback loops, waveshaping, randomization etc. They come alive with these tricks and are quite good for DSP. I love my Nord. However the natural successor to the Prophet 5 is the Prophet 08 without question. Yes, the filter is not multi-mode like the Oberheim two pole, and it clearly isn't the Moog ladder, but it has it's own juicy flavor. Here's a balanced review: [video:youtube]6oS6J2sToZM [video:youtube]dCz0yR48b1o You'll notice that the first video addresses the VCO vs. DCO slop issue at about 5.50. You'll also hear the filter at about 7.30. Toward the end of video 2 the review addresses some concerns that a prospective buyer should be aware of. The four voice Tetra doesn't have the tactile interface, but provides four voices of polyphony and the same sound (plus two sub-oscillators) for much less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 However the natural successor to the Prophet 5 is the Prophet 08 without question. I´d say the Prophet 08 is the natural successor to the complete SCI Prophet product line,- just because the natural successor to the Prophet 5 was the Prophet 10, then followed by the Prophet T8. The Prophet 600 was some kind of a derivate comparable to what the Roland Jupiter 6 was to the Jupiter 8. A.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT156 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Tusker: Thanks so much for posting those comparison videos. The P08 certainly has some capabilities that the P5 did not have, and sounds great. The filter sounds good on those demos. Cheers, Mike T. Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Bah. Even Prophet rev 3s suck. SSM rules! Moe --- "I keep wanting to like it's sound, but every demo seems to demonstrate that it has the earth-shaking punch and peerless sonics of the Roland Gaia. " - Tusker http://www.hotrodmotm.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineerjoel Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 The First (and only) time I played a P08, the sound made my skin just crawl. To me, the PO8 sounded like a bad Juno 106 (not to be confused with awesome sounding Juno 60). Seems like every patch on the PO8 sounds artificially chorusy .with the AutoPan ping-ponging back-n-forth. I still am very gun-shy to ever get around a P08 again. Though, I do seem to favor the sound of Tetra bit better due to the extra sub Oscillators. DAVE needs to come out with P-12 that includes the extra Sub Oscillators; add back the dedicated PolyMod section and reposition the Modulation and Pitch Wheels down to Key-Level...like they're suppose to be....and I just might give the "P" another try. Until then, the my ole Rev 3.3 is keeper. OtherNote..back to OP question: I also have NI's PRO53. It's great because I can load patches from Prophet 5 into PRO53 with very very little change in sound quality. The only difference seems to be that the PRO53 does not have the TopEnd that the P5. Also, there is something not quite right with the DECAY rates on both Filter and AMP EGs on the Pro53. Yamaha CP-80/S80/S90es/P125/DGX-670/AN1x/MOTIF XS-Rack/CS6R/Roland D-50/Prophet 5(Rev 3.3.)/OBX8/Prophet 5 (Rev 4)/OB-8/Juno-60/Jupiter-6/Studiologic Numa Organ with Neo Ventilator/Korg Kronos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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