Cygnus64 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I don't know much about this company, I just saw that they have a good price on this package: clonk Does anybody have any of these? Good? Bad? What kind of samples come with Sampletank2? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksoper Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 The only experience I have with IK Multimedia is Amplitube, and years ago, T-Racks. The Amplitube stuff is stunning. A friend of mine uses it for quickie demo sessions where setting up amps and mikes isn't practical. Hard to tell the difference on an mp3. The T-Racks stuff gets great reviews, but in its original incarnation it didn't do anything for me. It may have gotten better. I know this doesn't really answer your question, but no one was responding and I was afraid you'd feel abandoned. 9 Moog things, 3 Roland things, 2 Hammond things and a computer with stuff on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus64 Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 I know this doesn't really answer your question, but no one was responding and I was afraid you'd feel abandoned. You get an A for effort. My take on it is that it is very good stuff in 2005. Whether that makes it obsolete or not I don't know. Some of the demos sound pretty good. My original plan was to get a lil gift for myself like Omnisphere. That was until me and my gal had enormous car problems this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 My take on it is that it is very good stuff in 2005. Whether that makes it obsolete or not I don't know. Some of the demos sound pretty good. I've had SampleTank for years but don't use it anymore. At the time I got it (5+ years ago), it was great. I loved the piano and guitar samples. Maybe I should load it up again and have a go with it. When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus64 Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 Thanks Synthoid, good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Only issue I had with SampleTank was having to add chlorine to keep the algae in check... When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMEGZ Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I have all the IK stuff. IK has offered group buys before as much as 4x 1 (buy one get 4 free). Sample Tank(or ST) is rumoured to have a new version in the wings. The cons are mostly the compact GUI(hard to read) and the colors of the GUI. Some of the sounds may be a tad dated but useful. SOnic Synth is a nice palate of GM type(as in categories) sounds . The symphonic orchestra has bread and butter sounds, you wont find a lot of articulations such as the newer Ork libraries, but you can suss out a string section . All of them are 16 part multi- timbral so you can layer sounds or build up a section or combo easily. I just cannot read the darn small ST GUI and the orange color (although you can change it to one or two others) makes me feel like im reading a jet fighter HU display. SpaceStation V3, MoxF6,PX5S,Hammond-SK2,Artis7,Stage2-73, KronosX-73,MS Pro145,Ventilator,OB DB1,Lester K Toys: RIP died in the flood of 8/16 1930 Hammond AV, 1970s Leslie 145, 1974 Rhodes Stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 It was ok but not great when it was released. When I updated my DAW a few years ago I never bothered to intall it. Too many other programs have passed it by. This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus64 Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 Thanks for the comments. Rabid, what do you think would be a better choice? I'm thinking of just robbing a few old ladies and getting Omnisphere. I'm not sure though as I don't use a ton of "synthy" sounds, mainly acoustic. Love the choir stuff in there though. Here's what I own: EWQLSO Gold Dimension Pro (and the other synths with Sonar) Garritan GPO EZ Drummer Two keyboards: MM6 and X50 I'm just looking for a way to fill out some of the acoustic sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I'm just looking for a way to fill out some of the acoustic sounds. What kind of acoustic sounds? Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I don't think that ST2 is going to add much to that collection and you are not really hurting for anything. JMHO, put the money you would spend on ST2 in a pot and start saving for Komplete. This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 JMHO, put the money you would spend on ST2 in a pot and start saving for Komplete. I was going to suggest the same thing. Komplete 5 has sooo much great sounding stuff in it. I wouldn't bother with second rate samples. Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus64 Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 I'm just looking for a way to fill out some of the acoustic sounds. What kind of acoustic sounds? Ultimately I'll need a good piano someday down the line. I definitely need choirs and don't like the sound of the EWQL choirs. I was going to suggest the same thing. Komplete 5 has sooo much great sounding stuff in it. I wouldn't bother with second rate samples. I agree with both of yez. I was just shell-schocked by my car repairs this weekend. I'll save for something a little nicer like Omnisphere or Komplete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus64 Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 JMHO, put the money you would spend on ST2 in a pot and start saving for Komplete. I was going to suggest the same thing. Komplete 5 has sooo much great sounding stuff in it. I wouldn't bother with second rate samples. Hold on a sec. What's the newest version of Komplete? 8? That's not as expensive as I thought: clonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 JMHO, put the money you would spend on ST2 in a pot and start saving for Komplete. I was going to suggest the same thing. Komplete 5 has sooo much great sounding stuff in it. I wouldn't bother with second rate samples. Hold on a sec. What's the newest version of Komplete? 8? That's not as expensive as I thought: clonk They have 2 different versions. There's that one, and then there's the ridiculous all the bells and whistles everything and the kitchen sink version which is a grand. I have the latter. I don't know the differences but poking around for a couple seconds on NI's website will enlighten you. Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMEGZ Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Adrian, look at the spreadsheet comparing the included instruments and fx between K8 komplete and the "essentials" and see if you need or want the extras. HERE is the comparison SpaceStation V3, MoxF6,PX5S,Hammond-SK2,Artis7,Stage2-73, KronosX-73,MS Pro145,Ventilator,OB DB1,Lester K Toys: RIP died in the flood of 8/16 1930 Hammond AV, 1970s Leslie 145, 1974 Rhodes Stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus64 Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 Thanks for the info. As luck would have it, I just got another arranging gig so I am going to get Omnisphere as originally planned. I can actually buy both now. Does Komplete need or come with a dongle/ilok? None of the retailers say that it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Thanks for the info. As luck would have it, I just got another arranging gig so I am going to get Omnisphere as originally planned. I can actually buy both now. Does Komplete need or come with a dongle/ilok? None of the retailers say that it does. Komplete does not use an iLok. You have to register it. The included license code is good for installation on up to [3] machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksoper Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I'm very happy with the NI product line and their philosophy of "our customers are not thieves." Not a dongle fan. But given the evidence that Kontakt is a highly supported sample format, that's where I'd put my money. Lots of cool free Kontakt instruments out there, including this small prepared piano I was turned onto the other day: Play the online version, then download the instrument. Prepared piano 9 Moog things, 3 Roland things, 2 Hammond things and a computer with stuff on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I was hesitant to answer as this topic has been covered so many times before, and as the stated offer is nowhere near as good as the one that was offered just a few weeks ago. I have most of the company's products and count them amongst my favourites. The SampleTron is to my ears more organic than the one from G-Force, but I use both as they cover different tape banks. I haven't used SampleMoog yet but got it for free. The Miroslav orchestra is unique in having a lot of patches programmed for breath and wind controllers, and excellent choirs. The main core product has some interesting patches and add-on libraries but I never use it (SampleTank). For the production tools, I used to use CSR but now use Lexicon native reverbs and Quantum Leap Spaces alongside Altiverb. It's still a good product though -- especially the Inverse Reverb for gated effects. AmpliTube is still my favourite amp modeler by far, and continues to improve in breadth and depth. It is the only one I would trust on a final take, but my guitarist friends aren't fooled. I never liked the original T-RackS but love the new version, which has great vintage emulations of Pultec EQ's, LA2A, 1176, and other vintage gear. Many prefer these to UAD's or Softube's. I use them on every rock/pop production that I do, on almost every track and occasionally (but rarely) on the busses. I have yet to use them for mastering but may give that a try someday, except that I'm so happy with PSP Xenon, iZotope Ozone, and the Sonnox plugs. Eugenio Upright, 60th Ann P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico Bari, Dano Bari Select Strat/Tele, Am Pro Jazzmaster, LP 57 Gold, G5422DC-12, T486, T64, PM2, EXL1, XK4, Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus64 Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 Thanks for all the comments. I bought Komplete 6 for a steal. If I like it I can upgade to 8 Ultimate for $499, which means I would save $250 compared to buying it outright. That's pretty amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I think there's been some confusion in this thread between two outfits that are often abbreviated with just two letters: IK Multimedia and NI (Native Instruments). :-) Eugenio Upright, 60th Ann P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico Bari, Dano Bari Select Strat/Tele, Am Pro Jazzmaster, LP 57 Gold, G5422DC-12, T486, T64, PM2, EXL1, XK4, Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus64 Posted December 25, 2011 Author Share Posted December 25, 2011 I think there's been some confusion in this thread between two outfits that are often abbreviated with just two letters: IK Multimedia and NI (Native Instruments). :-) No confusion here. I originally saw the low price for the IK stuff, checked out everything I could about the sounds and went with NI instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMEGZ Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I think there's been some confusion in this thread between two outfits that are often abbreviated with just two letters: IK Multimedia and NI (Native Instruments). :-) No confusion here. I originally saw the low price for the IK stuff, checked out everything I could about the sounds and went with NI instead. Good thing you waited and chose something different. That IK package is $99 today at AudioMidi, although its a one day only special. SpaceStation V3, MoxF6,PX5S,Hammond-SK2,Artis7,Stage2-73, KronosX-73,MS Pro145,Ventilator,OB DB1,Lester K Toys: RIP died in the flood of 8/16 1930 Hammond AV, 1970s Leslie 145, 1974 Rhodes Stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Yeah, that's the right price today, and it's silly to buy for any more than $100 considering how frequently those sales are run. The NI stuff gets more use around here, but that's only due to the types of productions I am doing. But I prefer IK for effects; NI for VI's. Eugenio Upright, 60th Ann P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico Bari, Dano Bari Select Strat/Tele, Am Pro Jazzmaster, LP 57 Gold, G5422DC-12, T486, T64, PM2, EXL1, XK4, Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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