kanker. Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Logic Pro $200 Mainstage $30 A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicaL Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Wow!! Nice. I wonder what happens to Logic Express? Are they going to be giving it away??? aL Gear: Yamaha MODX8, Mojo 61, NS2 73, C. Bechstein baby grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 It's about time they unbundled Mainstage. Now they need to make an iPad version of it! Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 It's about time they unbundled Mainstage. Now they need to make an iPad version of it! Yeah, it's insane - for $30 you get a formerly $4000+ suite of synths and effects. Unreal A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carter_ Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Apple's going to make it unaffordable to not own their hardware. This is an unbelievable deal . . . U1 | NP | NS3 | NE3 HP | K10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzed Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Logic Express and Soundtrack Pro appear to have been killed. I bet a number of music software companies are not all that thrilled about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahZark Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Is this an indication that Logic Pro 10 (and/or Mainstage 3) may be hitting the market soon? Noah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Holey Cannoli! It looks like it comes with everything as far as the "Jam Packs" as well, right? "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 More: MainStage comes with all the sounds too? The precedent has generally been that upgrades are free. We have not seen how it will work for major revision changes, AFIAK. But imagine if Logic Pro and MainStage were now "free for life"... "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Wow!! Nice. I wonder what happens to Logic Express? Are they going to be giving it away??? Apples Logic Express 9 has reached the end of the road. Now that Logic Pro 9 is being offered at the same $200 price as Logic Express, Apple plans to eliminate the Express version from its catalog. To answer my own question It looks like it comes with everything as far as the "Jam Packs" as well, right? More: MainStage comes with all the sounds too? Purchase either application and you can download Apples entire 25GB loop and instrument library (comprised of Apples six Jam Pack packages) for no additional charge. (These loops and instruments can also be used with GarageBand.) If you like, you can choose to download items from the sound library a la carte. http://www.macworld.com/article/164139/2011/12/logic_pro_and_mainstage_come_to_mac_app_store.html "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP3 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Logic is being given away at the expense of Apple doing the things that would make it "pro" for the future. Final Cut has become a consumer program. Now Logic seems to be heading the same path. I'm happy that Samplitude will be out for Mac in a year or so. That is a "pro" audio app. Logic is great for composing and has wonderful, unique plugins but many are getting long in the tooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leh173 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Doesn't look like it comes with the 40GB of content that the boxed version does. I wonder if their will be a Logic 10 next year? I agree the plug-ins are indeed great, but to put the cost in perspective they are 10 years old. Roland Fantom G6, D-70, JP-8000, Juno-106, JV-1080, Moog Minitaur, Korg Volca Keys, Yamaha DX-7. TG33, Logic Pro, NI plugs, Arturia plugs etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Doesn't look like it comes with the 40GB of content that the boxed version does. Read my last post above. Is there something that you think should be there that isn't? "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leh173 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Fair enough. I just looked at the link to the store that said it was 400mb or something. Sneaky reading the KC at work doesn't lend to in depth reading! LOL. Not sure if it's 25gb and the studio box is 40gb as to what isn't there. Maybe the soundtrack pro SFX library is missing. Wouldn't make much difference in Logic. Also the EXS24 has a pretty good library that I think is separate to the Jam Packs stuff. Been a while since I installed 9. Like 2 years or more. Roland Fantom G6, D-70, JP-8000, Juno-106, JV-1080, Moog Minitaur, Korg Volca Keys, Yamaha DX-7. TG33, Logic Pro, NI plugs, Arturia plugs etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedKey Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I've grown very dependant and quite fond of Waveburner. That seems to be completely under the radar right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Mullins Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 My brother is considering a switch to Mac but I'm a complete novice on that platform. How do the included synths/sound libraries compare to say Native Instruments Komplete? Yamaha CK88, Arturia Keylab 61 MkII, Moog Sub 37, Yamaha U1 Upright, Casio CT-S500, Mac Logic/Mainstage + plugins, iPad Camelot + plugins, Spacestation V.3, QSC K10.2 www.stickmanor.com There's a thin white line between fear and fury - Stickman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Maybe the soundtrack pro SFX library is missing. Summing up from that MacWorld link, the $500 Logic Studio included, Logic Pro 9, MainStage 2, Soundtrack Pro 3, Compressor, and WaveBurner. The Logic Pro download is just Logic Pro, Mainstage is just Mainstage, but you can download the six Jam Pack packages free with the purchase of either of them. Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yannis D Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Wow!! Nice. I wonder what happens to Logic Express? Are they going to be giving it away??? Apples Logic Express 9 has reached the end of the road. Now that Logic Pro 9 is being offered at the same $200 price as Logic Express, Apple plans to eliminate the Express version from its catalog. To answer my own question It looks like it comes with everything as far as the "Jam Packs" as well, right? More: MainStage comes with all the sounds too? Purchase either application and you can download Apples entire 25GB loop and instrument library (comprised of Apples six Jam Pack packages) for no additional charge. (These loops and instruments can also be used with GarageBand.) If you like, you can choose to download items from the sound library a la carte. http://www.macworld.com/article/164139/2011/12/logic_pro_and_mainstage_come_to_mac_app_store.html Joe, just a quick question: do you have any idea if the new Mainstage is gonna contain the full EX24 possibilities? I mean microtuning and the rest, which was included in the EX24 version of Logic but not in EX24 in Mainstage? That'd be good good to have all the EX24 goodies in Mainstage too, cause playing live with Logic is not that practical... Be grateful for what you've got - a Nord, a laptop and two hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I don't know. I didn't even realize that anything in MainStage didn't do what it did in Logic. Maybe Kevin knows. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnchop Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 omg omg omg omg omg. I was looking for a better way to host soft synths on my MB Pro and didn't want to throw down for the full version of Logic. This is awesome. I make software noises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Beaumont Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 This is great news! Boards: Kurzweil SP-6, Roland FA-08, VR-09, DeepMind 12 Modules: Korg Radias, Roland D-05, Bk7-m & Sonic Cell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanS Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I knew I was getting a Mac at the right time... What we record in life, echoes in eternity. MOXF8, Electro 6D, XK1c, Motif XSr, PEKPER, Voyager, Univox MiniKorg. https://www.abandoned-film.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Logic is being given away at the expense of Apple doing the things that would make it "pro" for the future. Final Cut has become a consumer program. Now Logic seems to be heading the same path. I'm happy that Samplitude will be out for Mac in a year or so. That is a "pro" audio app. Logic is great for composing and has wonderful, unique plugins but many are getting long in the tooth. Nailed it. This is my giant fear. Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 But it's great now. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Paxton Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Now I'm certainly not pissed that I bought Logic Pro a few months ago just to get Mainstage. No, definitely not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonksDream Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Logic is being given away at the expense of Apple doing the things that would make it "pro" for the future. Final Cut has become a consumer program. Now Logic seems to be heading the same path. I'm happy that Samplitude will be out for Mac in a year or so. That is a "pro" audio app. Logic is great for composing and has wonderful, unique plugins but many are getting long in the tooth. Nailed it. This is my giant fear. Are you seriously suggesting that one of the best and most feature-laden DAWs made should be passed up for $230 all-in because of some concern that it will not be "pro" enough sometime in the future? What capabilities are you concerned about losing? As for Final Cut Pro X - if this MacWorld review is any indication FCPX is still far from a 'consumer' app. Instrumentation is meaningless - a song either stands on its own merit, or it requires bells and whistles to cover its lack of adequacy, much less quality. - kanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Are you seriously suggesting that one of the best and most feature-laden DAWs made should be passed up for $230 all-in because of some concern that it will not be "pro" enough sometime in the future? Nope, not at all. It's a steal at that price and I'd be first in line to buy it if I didn't already have it. Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 As for Final Cut Pro X - if this MacWorld review is any indication FCPX is still far from a 'consumer' app. I disagree: Cons: Does not open previous Final Cut Pro projects No third-party support for hardware monitoring or software add-ons Tape media can only be captured via Fire wire. Defaults to media capture from camera No support for import or export of content to other editors or other finishing systems No mention of 3D or high-end workflow or deliverables anywhere in the documentation Limited XML and no EDL support restricts usability with other non-Apple software applications Final Cut Studio 3, Final Cut Express and Final Cut Server all discontinued with this release Emphasis mine... These are all basic expectations of a pro video editing suite. In a nutshell, this kills the biggest reason I was contemplating building a Hackintosh. A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Yeah but Apple relented and made Final Cut Studio available to order. You might have to buy it direct, though. Also, FCPX will get better. When they revised iMovie a few years ago, lots of people complained, Apple relented and made the previous version available for download. Now, years later, people are using the current iMovie. I doubt many are still using the old version. I'm sure that FCPX will remain a Pro app and will regain the features that it needs. It was a complete rewrite, and to add those features will take time. It's funny, when Apple first showed FCPX, people were going crazy about the new features. It was only when they found out what it couldn't do yet that they got upset. Also, it wasn't like FC Studio stopped working... I don't see where anything Apple is doing to Logic now hints at it being any less Pro than before. Maybe it will get the same kind of rewrite as FCPX, or maybe not. The only thing that bugs me about Logic now are the lack of improvements of the plug-ins (they went from best-in-class to great-for-the-price) and the state of notation. P.S. It's Macworld. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 FCPX will remain a Pro app and will regain the features that it needs. It was a complete rewrite, and to add those features will take time. Based on Apple's historical behavior, I seriously, seriously doubt they will ever restore features like cross-platform export. They like their users to be chained to Macs at all times, to ensure no one strays from the path of righteousness... A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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