MuzikTeechur Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Some of you may remember when I bought my Hammond B-200/Leslie 715 I brought it to a Hammond Tech who was working on an RT-3 conversion. Well, wonder no more what it's worth: it's for sale: Hammond RT Conversion on Maine CL Muzikteechur is Lonnie, in Kittery, Maine. HS music teacher: Concert Band, Marching Band, Jazz Band, Chorus, Music Theory, AP Music Theory, History of Rock, Musical Theatre, Piano, Guitar, Drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 What's a "digital conversion"? Moe --- "I keep wanting to like it's sound, but every demo seems to demonstrate that it has the earth-shaking punch and peerless sonics of the Roland Gaia. " - Tusker http://www.hotrodmotm.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuzikTeechur Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 All the tubes have been replaced with solid state stuff, pre-amp is solid state, etc. Also, there are sensors under each key for MIDI. Muzikteechur is Lonnie, in Kittery, Maine. HS music teacher: Concert Band, Marching Band, Jazz Band, Chorus, Music Theory, AP Music Theory, History of Rock, Musical Theatre, Piano, Guitar, Drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3Nut Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Good grief. Not a '53 (RT-3 didn't exist then) and price is way out of line. Digital? Ummmm...whut? Makes me feel less bad about this week's soldered-the-scanner-harness-to-the-drawbar-base-backwards brain fart I committed...(funny story...) Nobody's gonna pay that for a chop with a Rotosonic Leslie when similar boxes go for $1500 to $2000 on the bay. I do give the guy points for making a chop that still has pedals. Most don't bother. TP --- Todd A. Phipps "...no, I'm not a Hammondoholic...I can stop anytime..." http://www.facebook.com/b3nut ** http://www.blueolives.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3Nut Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Hmm. MIDI adds a little value, but I'd prefer the stock tube preamp over the solid-state Trek II he must have used. TP --- Todd A. Phipps "...no, I'm not a Hammondoholic...I can stop anytime..." http://www.facebook.com/b3nut ** http://www.blueolives.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuzikTeechur Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 Actually, I would guarantee that this chop is AMAZING. I've seen it, and this is one of the best Hammond techs on the planet. Certainly one of the most expensive! I'm not certain if it's $11,500 worth of amazing... I thought this was a '49, but what do I know. His work is meticulous and exemplary. Even though that picture was taken in his shop, I'm not certain that he's the one selling it. As I recall the chop was for a customer who was going to play it for a year or two and then sell it. I'm curious about what happened. I'll have to ask him when I pick up my B-200 later this week. Muzikteechur is Lonnie, in Kittery, Maine. HS music teacher: Concert Band, Marching Band, Jazz Band, Chorus, Music Theory, AP Music Theory, History of Rock, Musical Theatre, Piano, Guitar, Drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I could understand solid state, but that's completely different than "digital". Oh well. It looks very well done - the stand is almost exactly the same design I have used for years in some of my rigs (see avatar). Moe --- "I keep wanting to like it's sound, but every demo seems to demonstrate that it has the earth-shaking punch and peerless sonics of the Roland Gaia. " - Tusker http://www.hotrodmotm.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 First of all anyone that chops a console should not be allowed, if it was absolutely necessary I could see. Most of the times it isn't and it was done to inflate someones ego. I really hate that. In most cases it does little for the weight anyway. No one would pay that for something that is worth two grand at the most. Who is the tech? "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Did you look at the picture? It's a custom built case - no console cabinet was harmed. Looks like he reused the bench though. Moe --- "I keep wanting to like it's sound, but every demo seems to demonstrate that it has the earth-shaking punch and peerless sonics of the Roland Gaia. " - Tusker http://www.hotrodmotm.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuzikTeechur Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 Digital: it has MIDI. Not certain how velocity-sensitive it is; as he explained it to me the Hammond doesn't really have enough key travel for the sensors to get a good velocity reading, but they certainly work for on/off triggers. This wasn't a Sawzall job - completely new cabinet, all the capacitors, resistors, etc. were replaced with new. Nick was a Hammond Factory Tech when it was still Hammond and knows his way around a B-3. The RT this came from was nearly ashes itself, so I have no issues with the chop. This guy did this as a contract for a customer. Cabinet is completely custom-built, as is the stand. The pedals and (I think) bench came from an Elegante. This is a very special conversion, but as I said I'm not certain that it's $11,500 worth of special. Personally I prefer a tube pre-amp, but I'm told that the solid state pre-amp can be bypassed in lieu of something crunchier. I'm certain that there is a substantial weight-savings: Most of the heavy stuff is gone with the exception of the tone-generator. It's certainly more portable and durable than the original, and I assure you that the customer who ordered this has Roadies. The tech is Nick Orso in Portland, Maine. Truly, I don't know why I have to defend the tech or his work - you were all oohing and aahing when I posted pics of this conversion in progress. If you can do better, then step right up... Muzikteechur is Lonnie, in Kittery, Maine. HS music teacher: Concert Band, Marching Band, Jazz Band, Chorus, Music Theory, AP Music Theory, History of Rock, Musical Theatre, Piano, Guitar, Drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 It's not the point of doing better most of the weight is in the tone generator and the manuals anyway. If is was a bad cabinet I understand then. I just see to many people butchering Hammond Consoles all the time when it is not necessary. "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 RT-3 came out much later than 49. RT-3s were really cool. It is a 3 series organ (ala B3,C3, A100 etc...)with an actual organ style pedal board. 32 note AGO pedalboard. FWIW - That is not the RT-3 pedalboard being used on that chop. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Looks pretty cool, but yeah, not five figure cool. Lonnie, did you ever get a chance to play it at all? "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuzikTeechur Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 It wasn't done when I dropped off my organ for work. However, if it's still there when I pick it up later this week I'll ask if I can play it. Muzikteechur is Lonnie, in Kittery, Maine. HS music teacher: Concert Band, Marching Band, Jazz Band, Chorus, Music Theory, AP Music Theory, History of Rock, Musical Theatre, Piano, Guitar, Drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Some of you may remember when I bought my Hammond B-200/Leslie 715 I brought it to a Hammond Tech who was working on an RT-3 conversion. Well, wonder no more what it's worth: it's for sale: Hammond RT Conversion on Maine CL This makes absolutely no sense to me. Why would you want a 200lb+ minimal MIDI rig that doesn't quite sound like a Hammond anymore (solid state preamp)? Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3Nut Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Nothing about the Trek II solid-state preamp makes it "not sound like a Hammond anymore." The SSP-3 was designed to replicate the response of the original AO-28 tube preamp when it was new. I think they have a tendency to sound a bit bright, but they work well and absolutely work miracles with older consoles like CV's...they transform your typical muddy-sounding BV or CV into a good-sounding box. I much prefer a good stock AO-28 but an SSP-3 is better than a non-rebuilt or tired AO-28. And the chop is still a tonewheel Hammond, the MIDI is send-only and is for controlling external synths or modules. I just think it's overpriced for what it is, not that it's a bad organ by any stretch. I'd be surprised if it didn't kick. TP --- Todd A. Phipps "...no, I'm not a Hammondoholic...I can stop anytime..." http://www.facebook.com/b3nut ** http://www.blueolives.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 and if the Trek II preamp is too bright there are EQ controls for available for it. But there aint no Hammond chop worth $10,000 + "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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