metromike Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Any suggestions on patch settings (other than don't play that stupid song..lol) I have a split set right now on the motif with banjo and violin...does not sound good. We try to make the song sound as authentic as possible, maybe I should think outside the box?? Any input would be appreciated...thanks! Gear: Roland RD700, Yamaha MotifES6, Roland Fantom FA76, Roland JP-8000, Roland AX-7, Roland Juno-106. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMEGZ Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 sample the opening banjo riff maybe and play back via a key assigned on the motif? I think if i remember the song there may be a breakdown in the middle with banjo etc, SpaceStation V3, MoxF6,PX5S,Hammond-SK2,Artis7,Stage2-73, KronosX-73,MS Pro145,Ventilator,OB DB1,Lester K Toys: RIP died in the flood of 8/16 1930 Hammond AV, 1970s Leslie 145, 1974 Rhodes Stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Banjo and organ, ignore the violin, you won't get it sounding authentic. Play the violin riffs on the organ with a touch of grind, and it sounds just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEMcCut Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 We play this in our band. I layered 2 banjo sounds from my Motif ES together just to thicken it a bit. For the violin part, I use a patch called Fiddle that is in the GM bank. It has a better "bow" sound than the violin patches. For the hit parts (As in Save a horse //) I use organ. I don't there is actually organ there but it fills out the hit nicely. I can only do one of these sounds at a time because my left hand is being the bass player and it sounds pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Banjo and organ, ignore the violin, you won't get it sounding authentic. Play the violin riffs on the organ with a touch of grind, and it sounds just fine. This or you can try to go totally outside the box and play honky tonk piano on it and if that don't pan out go back to the above. Trying to get the fiddle to sound right will be hard especially on the breakdown. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Those 1/8 note banjo riffs really propel the track and pretty much have to be there somehow. But you might try substituting a clav patch instead of banjo to see if it would work. I like Sven's organ suggestion (or maybe a saw synth patch) for covering the fiddle. I've never played this song in a band so I'd be blind going into it too. Just heard it a zillion times (not by choice). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Used to play SAHRAC a lot five or six years back. Have always played the banjo part. Played it again this October for a week long 'hired gun' gig in Denver; have the same gig again in December. I used " Banjo Joe" from the Motif XF Flash expansion free download from Yamaha. That sounds pretty much nails it, along with using fretboard style, two hand overlapping technique on the keyboard; a little rusty at that, but getting it back. I've always deferred to the lead guitar to cover the violin lead during the breakdown. Though the last time I traded some lead lines with the guitarist when we extended things out, using the electric violin voice that's in the XF (IIRC, that sound's been a Motif staple since the XS). It's a very evocative lead voice. If I played the song with my regular band, I'd take a shot at the signature violin lead. That patch could work well in an electric guitar driven situation. Have tried it on 'Amarillo By Morning', but there's an XF 'Rosin lead' voice that works better for that. 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metromike Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Thanks everyone....great advice as usual! Gear: Roland RD700, Yamaha MotifES6, Roland Fantom FA76, Roland JP-8000, Roland AX-7, Roland Juno-106. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Nathan Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 This has puzzled me for a long time. I have no recent experience with it, but back in my younger club days, it was not the case. The bass player plays the bass part, the drummer the drum part, the guitar player plays one of the guitar parts or maybe a combination of parts of two. The singer sings only the lead vocal. Who decided that the keyboard player has to play all the keyboard parts, piano, rhodes, organ etc, plus whatever horns, strings, banjo & fiddle and everything else on a modern record. Don't rush me. I'm playing as slowly as I can! http://www.stevenathanmusic.com/stevenathanmusic.com/HOME.html https://apple.co/2EGpYXK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWB121234 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Force Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Although I like Country music, I hadn't heard that particular tune before. So I youtubed it. I tasted some vomit rising up into my mouth so I vectored quickly away. Not my cup of tea.. Steve Force, Durham, North Carolina -------- My Professional Websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 This has puzzled me for a long time. I have no recent experience with it, but back in my younger club days, it was not the case. The bass player plays the bass part, the drummer the drum part, the guitar player plays one of the guitar parts or maybe a combination of parts of two. The singer sings only the lead vocal. Who decided that the keyboard player has to play all the keyboard parts, piano, rhodes, organ etc, plus whatever horns, strings, banjo & fiddle and everything else on a modern record. The guitarist who makes sure all he has to do is wait around 2 minutes until his 8 minute solo each song.... A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Dan Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Who decided that the keyboard player has to play all the keyboard parts, piano, rhodes, organ etc, plus whatever horns, strings, banjo & fiddle and everything else on a modern record. The person who decided to put horn, string, banjo & fiddle sounds in a keyboard. Dan Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sven Golly Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Who decided that the keyboard player has to play all the keyboard parts, piano, rhodes, organ etc, plus whatever horns, strings, banjo & fiddle and everything else on a modern record. I blame Jim Cox. (a lot of folks won't get that, but I'm sure you will, Steve ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Although I like Country music, I hadn't heard that particular tune before. So I youtubed it. I tasted some vomit rising up into my mouth so I vectored quickly away. Not my cup of tea.. I played in a new country band called the Diesel Cowboys up here, and every time we played that tune, at least ONE young woman in the audience would join us on stage and share with us her God-given talents normally kept out of sight under her sweater. Like the song or not, I sure love the effect it had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Force Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Although I like Country music, I hadn't heard that particular tune before. So I youtubed it. I tasted some vomit rising up into my mouth so I vectored quickly away. Not my cup of tea.. I played in a new country band called the Diesel Cowboys up here, and every time we played that tune, at least ONE young woman in the audience would join us on stage and share with us her God-given talents normally kept out of sight under her sweater. Like the song or not, I sure love the effect it had. she showed you her girdle? Steve Force, Durham, North Carolina -------- My Professional Websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Force Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Although I like Country music, I hadn't heard that particular tune before. So I youtubed it. I tasted some vomit rising up into my mouth so I vectored quickly away. Not my cup of tea.. Actually, I gave it another shot and watched some other videos. Now I am in love with it! (Schwing!!) Steve Force, Durham, North Carolina -------- My Professional Websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I got the horse and she's got the saddle Together we're going to ride ride ride. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_3guy Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Who decided that the keyboard player has to play all the keyboard parts, piano, rhodes, organ etc, plus whatever horns, strings, banjo & fiddle and everything else on a modern record. Somehow if it's not guitar, bass or drums, it's now the keyboard guy's responsibility. Even if there's a strong piano part somehow you've got to pick up the fiddle or horns or whatever other sound that's on the record. Steve www.seagullphotodesign.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Homie don't do fiddle or pedal steel parts on keys. I may do brass or orchestral string parts. I don't do sax leads on keys either. I was asked to do the harmonica solo in Long Train Running once .... uh No. The piano solo I did in its place turned out kind of cool. I played with a guitar player who used a Roland guitar synth and he could do a passable performance of covering fiddle and sax leads. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffLearman Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Who decided that the keyboard player has to play all the keyboard parts, piano, rhodes, organ etc, plus whatever horns, strings, banjo & fiddle and everything else on a modern record. Yeah, how come we get all the fun? JK; I only play keyboards on my keyboards, with rare exceptions. The worst case was when some sound effect on the original was a guitar through effects or feedback etc, and they looked to me to cover it. Back in the day I had a Rhodes, CP70, and a Juno 60. How am I gonna make sound effects with that? (Turns out I also had a Roland Chorus Echo, so I fed that puppy back and twiddled knobs to make some interesting sounds ... I think that was for Red Skies at Night. But usually I said "No, thanks!") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Actually, I gave it another shot and watched some other videos. Now I am in love with it! (Schwing!!) linky? "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonksDream Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Lovin' the avatar, Joe! Instrumentation is meaningless - a song either stands on its own merit, or it requires bells and whistles to cover its lack of adequacy, much less quality. - kanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Actually, I gave it another shot and watched some other videos. Now I am in love with it! (Schwing!!) linky? Oh, Joe, really? [video:youtube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Actually, I gave it another shot and watched some other videos. Now I am in love with it! (Schwing!!) linky? Oh, Joe, really? I had the impression that forceman was talking about other videos. At first he said it made him ill, but then he "gave it another shot and watched some other videos." So I thought the first one was the one you linked to, then he watched some others. Those are what I'm looking for. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Oh, Joe, really? I had the impression that forceman was talking about other videos. At first he said it made him ill, but then he "gave it another shot and watched some other videos." So I thought the first one was the one you linked to, then he watched some others. Those are what I'm looking for. Whoops! Sorry, my bad! Here's a few that he (and you) might like: [video:youtube] [video:youtube] [video:youtube] [video:youtube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Nathan Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Here's a few that he (and you) might like: And what do those four have in common?? Hmmmmm, I wonder. Don't rush me. I'm playing as slowly as I can! http://www.stevenathanmusic.com/stevenathanmusic.com/HOME.html https://apple.co/2EGpYXK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Ok if we're going that direction When I DJ it's the most requested country song from the ladies. [video:youtube] And they do lol! It grids out at 104bpm - practically the same as "Save A Horse" and I often sync them and run them together. Sorry - the DJ in me comes out from time to time. But if you're doing "Save A Horse" you might want to consider adding this one too. It definitely works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 .... I played in a new country band called the Diesel Cowboys up here, and every time we played that tune, at least ONE young woman in the audience would join us on stage and share with us her God-given talents normally kept out of sight under her sweater. Like the song or not, I sure love the effect it had. In '06 we'd typically have around twenty 'backup singers' jumping up on stage to 'help' with that tune... Saw plenty o' 'God-given talents' on stage that year 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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