The fascination with the Leslie 122

[BuckW]

Back in my early 70's garage band days I couldn't afford a Hammond A B or C but I had an L100. I never tried a 122 but did have at different times the 145 147 and 900 something which i hated. I was going for that over driven Uriah Heep dirty Leslie sound and the 145 was best.

 

I always thought the reverb was cheesy. I don't think my 145 had it.

[WesG]

Your L100 had reverb. Unless it was broken or you were doing something silly.

[Musicale]

Does the 22H also have the speed switching lag ?

 

Musicale

[WesG]

Yes. All the 6H leslies do. You can improve this, but not eliminate it.

[BuckW]

Your L100 had reverb. Unless it was broken or you were doing something silly.

 

Yes, that was cheesy too.

[Legatoboy]

I prefer moving organs in B-style cases than organs in church style cases.

 

This is true, in the 70's I gigged a CV...it's approx. 50 lbs heavier than a B. Even with 3-4 movers that makes a difference.

 

B3 w/o pedals is about 400lbs I believe, the C3 is about 450lbs.

Also on a B3 it's much easier to get leverage under the body of the cabinet, the C cabinets having flush side panels and fronts..

 

either way it is a job for a band or roadies to haul a Console organ!

 

L100's and 111's etc were gigged a lot in my neck of the woods and were a nice alternative option to roading a console. Get a good Leslie and your rocking though they are not a console they can sound very good in an 'ensemble' setting...solo lines would defiantly suffer with the diving board style keys though and their tone is not in the same league ...

 

their reverbs are a bit cheesy!

[WesG]

You're way high on your estimates. A B3 without bench or pedals is around 300-320, depending on year, accessories, wood species, etc. A C cabinet is only another 20 lbs or so. There's just not that much more wood.

 

L100s are around 225. Much easier to lift.

 

The problem with spinets, C cabinets, etc, is banging your knees when trying to move them. A B cabinet is better in this regard, there is also more places to put your hands. But if you have a set of Roll-or-Kari dollies, the spinets, B cabinets, and C cabinets all wind up roughly the same in terms of effort. At that point, weight becomes the dominant factor.

 

BTW a red cap L100 and a Leslie 760 makes a pretty damn good rock band rig for very little money.

[B3Nut]

Another factor that makes a B-3 a little easier than the C-3 and especially the A-100 is because of the stance of its legs its mass is more well-centered than the slightly front-heavy C's or A-100's which are particularly front-heavy. It can be somewhat easy to make an A-100 faceplant if you get off-balance. None are too terribly difficult with Roll-Or-Karis IME. I generally prefer to move my Hammonds solo in most cases.

 

I wouldn't think of gigging with a console without the dollies and my folding motorcycle ramp I use with my Transit Connect.

 

Incidentally, IIRC Steve Leigh had weighed B-3's in on a scale at as little as 285-290 console only in some cases...

 

TP