Sundown Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 Hey all, I routinely search Youtube for keyboard content, and there are plenty of free lessons on there. And many of those free lessons are teasers to paid courses. Homespun used to do quite a bit of videos, but some of their stuff looks dated. Have you tried anything that you might recommend? It can be on-line content or DVD's, and I'm really looking for jazz material. Thanks in advance. Sundown Finished: Gateway, The Jupiter Bluff, Condensation, Apogee Working on: Driven Away, Backscatter, Eighties Crime Thriller Main axes: Kawai MP11 and Kurz PC361 DAW Platform: Cubase
Mizu Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 I find the Warren Bernhardt series from Homespun very good - three parts that take you from the basics to playing 'Sara's Touch' (Mainieri/Steps Ahead) in a piano/guitar duo. "You'll never be as good as you could have been, but you can always be better than you are." - MoKen
ksoper Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 Man, I just study live concert videos. For instance, Stevie Wonder Live At Last on Blu-Ray is a serious lesson in a whole bunch of stuff. Seeing it done makes a world of difference. I also picked up Thomas Dolby's The Sole Inhabitant, another amazing lesson. Lots of great jazz concerts out there. Have fun.
Joe Muscara Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 There's always this guy. [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK_j2LE07G0 [video:youtube] Oh wait, your subject said you wanted good ones. Sorry. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI
JeffLearman Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 OMG, he *revisited* 5/4??? Can't wait to see if he got a clue ...
JeffLearman Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 BWAHAHAHA! No clue! "It doesn't matter what you play, it's how you count it!" Deep down, I really hope this is satire. But ... no, I doubt it.
Joe Muscara Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 I know, that's why I posted the revisited version. There are lots of jokes about his new look on the YT page too. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI
wd8dky Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 Check out John Novello's stuff (he's from Niacin). http://www.weisersound.com/
orangefunk Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 Hey Jeff/Joe, I'm surprised to see you guys don't yet realise its a joke... of course its satire... he's great!
orangefunk Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 Had the book called Contemporary Keyboardist from Novello... it seemed like a good book but I foudn the layout (1940s typewriter style) confusing and the scientology stuff strange... hope his videos aren't full of Scientology too...
CrimsonianKing Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Was that a joke? funny guy! "The purple piper plays his tune, The choir softly sing; Three lullabies in an ancient tongue, For the court of the crimson king"
David Loving Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 I thought the novello stuff was too complicated to digest. I cannot see how the Dr John lessons, Warren Bernhart and Don Fagen stuff on Homespun are "dated." Like Louis Armstrong's chops are dated or Bill Evans stuff from the 50's? I thought the homespun stuff was very useful and challenging when I took them on. Josh Charles (in the privia ads, upper right) sounds like he worked through the Dr John material. Play along with the Jamie Aebersold lessons too. They're about as classic jazz as you can get, imo. my mileage varies, I guess. "Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown."
Joe Muscara Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Hey Jeff/Joe, I'm surprised to see you guys don't yet realise its a joke... of course its satire... he's great! Are you saying he's putting it on over eHow.com or whatever they're called now too? I mean, I've seen the commentary but I'm not wholly convinced he doesn't think he's for real. Besides, it's always good to throw him in a thread like this. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI
linwood Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 These aren't really keyboard related, but some here might be interested in them. ASMAC has a masterclass series they've been doing for a few years, thanks to Dave Blumberg, and now you can buy some of the dvd's. I got the first two that became available last month.the Johnny Mandel masterclass and the Bill Ross masterclass. Google ASMAC and get the number to call and order. They are each around 2.5hours long. Be sure to order the study materials that go with them. I think it was like an extra $15.00 and that cd will include all the scores and mp3s of the tracks that are discussed on the dvd's. Both of these dvd's are fantastic. Tons of good info on composing/arranging and working with large ensembles.
LX88 Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Interestingly I just picked up a copy of the Donald Fagen and Warren Bernhart video. I watched some of it and it is interesting, but Fagen doesn't really slow things down that much, particularly the farther into it you go. I am still going to try to learn some of the changes to some of these tunes, maybe by using pause. As a teacher I have always found that students really need things to be well spelled out. Most great players seem to forget the steps it took to get to the level they are now on. I was also given a copy of Brian Auger's DVD by Brian personally ( Thanks Brian!) but I did loan that one to a friend, so I will be checking into that.
David Loving Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 I don't know that guys like Fagen are really very good teachers. He is explaining things as best he can. I equate some of them to cooks who always leave something out of the recipe; not Fagen though. A lot of times they do it by being too complicated. Dr John, on the other hand, does break it down. It does not matter if they cannot always spell it out; no need to keep any of it a secret. Players are just going to sound like themselves anyway! It needs to really be spelled out for me, too. "Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown."
Joe Muscara Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 It's very easy to think, "what I'm doing is easy" once we know how to do it. I get people doing it all the time. They will say, "oh that. It's just " and blow it out. I'm sure that's what happens in a lot of these videos. That's why, when you can, it's better to get a teacher that makes you do it. First, they have to stop and think so they can tell you, then you have to do it yourself. If they forgot anything, they'll have to tell you that too. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with videos in general though. I'm just making the point of why they don't always work for people. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI
longfuse Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 I was also given a copy of Brian Auger's DVD by Brian personally ( Thanks Brian!) but I did loan that one to a friend, so I will be checking into that. Would love to hear your feedback on this DVD when you've finally got round to watching it. It's quite expensive IIR, so I'd like to know what the deal is before shelling out...
JeffLearman Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Hey Jeff/Joe, I'm surprised to see you guys don't yet realise its a joke... of course its satire... he's great! Are you sure? Can you back that up? I've seen a number of his other videos, and I'm really not convinced it's a joke. If so, I guess the joke's on me!
Sundown Posted February 12, 2011 Author Posted February 12, 2011 Have any of you tried on-line training? Jordan Rudess has the Online Conservatory and it's not too expensive ($50.00). Now it's not Jazz per se, but I think I could still learn a lot. There is no question that a private teacher is the best route, but with my schedule and other priorities, it's not very practical right now. Sundown Finished: Gateway, The Jupiter Bluff, Condensation, Apogee Working on: Driven Away, Backscatter, Eighties Crime Thriller Main axes: Kawai MP11 and Kurz PC361 DAW Platform: Cubase
timwat Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 On YouTube, check out Roger Friedman's channel (Lot2Learn). Between his vids and 7notemode's, there's an enormous wealth of great playing. If you already have enough of a handle on jazz theory to analyze the PDF transcriptions yourself, Friedman posts a lot of that for sale on his web site. ..
frogmonkey Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Homespun used to do quite a bit of videos, but some of their stuff looks dated. I've got to stand up for the Gospel Piano DVD by Ethel Caffie-Austin that Homespun put out. Awesome.
MonksDream Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Homespun used to do quite a bit of videos, but some of their stuff looks dated. I've got to stand up for the Gospel Piano DVD by Ethel Caffie-Austin that Homespun put out. Awesome. Ditto for the Dr. John (aka Mac Rebennack) DVD. Instrumentation is meaningless - a song either stands on its own merit, or it requires bells and whistles to cover its lack of adequacy, much less quality. - kanker
SK Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 On YouTube, check out Roger Friedman's channel (Lot2Learn). Between his vids and 7notemode's, there's an enormous wealth of great playing. If you already have enough of a handle on jazz theory to analyze the PDF transcriptions yourself, Friedman posts a lot of that for sale on his web site. +1 on Roger's (Lot2Learn) YouTubes, and you'll also be supporting a forum member who offers generous info many players can benefit from. And Roger's website: http://www.podiatrysoftware.com/lot2learn/Index.html CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/stevekessler
Griffinator Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 It's very easy to think, "what I'm doing is easy" once we know how to do it. I get people doing it all the time. They will say, "oh that. It's just " and blow it out. I'm sure that's what happens in a lot of these videos. That's why, when you can, it's better to get a teacher that makes you do it. First, they have to stop and think so they can tell you, then you have to do it yourself. If they forgot anything, they'll have to tell you that too. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with videos in general though. I'm just making the point of why they don't always work for people. Is that why Yngwie's instructional video came off like a big masturbation session? A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends.
Adan Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 I was also given a copy of Brian Auger's DVD by Brian personally ( Thanks Brian!) but I did loan that one to a friend, so I will be checking into that. Would love to hear your feedback on this DVD when you've finally got round to watching it. It's quite expensive IIR, so I'd like to know what the deal is before shelling out... It's fun to watch, if you're an Auger fun. Not sure that it works very well as an instructional. He deconstructs a few of his tunes, and that part is interesting. Overall, I'm not sure there's much to be learned from this DVD beyond what you could glean just listening to his recordings with a close ear. Gigging: Crumar Mojo 61, Hammond SKPro Home: Vintage Vibe 64
cashews Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 anybody tried Duane Shinn lessons on dvd? his web site says he is very popular!
GovernorSilver Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I'm digging the Tritone Xtravaganza DVD. I'm working on the lesson in which the left hand adds tritones to triads played with the right hand. The example in the lesson is just alternating Eb Major and Ab Major triads, with variations on triad inversions. The tritones on the left hand spice up the overall harmony, and moving them chromatically adds some interesting movement. A caveat: I found I had to practice the chromatic ascending/descending tritone exercise slowly and carefully - otherwise it's easy to strain the left hand.
Rost Vavrick Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 On YouTube, check out Roger Friedman's channel (Lot2Learn). Between his vids and 7notemode's, there's an enormous wealth of great playing. If you already have enough of a handle on jazz theory to analyze the PDF transcriptions yourself, Friedman posts a lot of that for sale on his web site. +1 on Roger's (Lot2Learn) YouTubes, and you'll also be supporting a forum member who offers generous info many players can benefit from. And Roger's website: http://www.podiatrysoftware.com/lot2learn/Index.html Roger is amazing! I wish he would fix his midi files for the right beat count. I would gladly pay 10-20 bucks a pop for correct transcription. Roger, are you reading this?
Michelle ggurl Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 There's this guy, Willie Myette: http://www.pianowithwillie.com/ There are indeed free snippets on YouTube that lead to paid lessons, but you can get a certain number of them for free if you sign up. Not sure if that means you can replay them or what since I haven't gone thru any of these in detail myself. I merely watched the samples and then clicked thru to his site with an interest to see this new breed of instruction coming out on the net these days. I haven't been motivated to pursue further, but the guy seems to have a decent handle on a variety of styles and seems to be a patient teacher, showing exactly what he's doing. Might be worth a look. I'm also of the mind that if you like what the trial shows you and you get genuine value out of the free stuff, it's good karma to throw the guy a bone and pay for some additional content. Original Latin Jazz CD Baby "I am not certain how original my contribution to music is as I am obviously an amateur." Patti Smith
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