Ellington Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Just out of curiosity, stepped into a Guitar Center and Sam Ash today to see the sampling of Digital Pianos. (Was really hoping to demo a V-Piano for fun, but no luck). What amazed me was that no piano I played under $2,000 or so felt or sounded as good as my 15 year-old Kurzweil PC88. Even more surprising was that even the newer Kurzweil models seemed to have clumsier action and sub-par samples. They actually had a used PC88MX (same samples as my PC88) that I kept going back to, to compare piano sounds, and nothing I heard or played sounded as realistic. What gives? Did I just get lucky to get a PC88 when I did, before quality in that price point took a major slide downward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonksDream Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I disagree. I don't think quality at that price point has ever been higher. I also don't agree that a $2000 instrument is 'consumer grade'. If the Yamaha CP300 or CP50, Roland RD300GX, various Casios (Casii?), or the Kawai MP6 don't sound 'realistic' to you as your PC88 I think your ears are likely biased toward the instrument you've been playing for 15 years. Instrumentation is meaningless - a song either stands on its own merit, or it requires bells and whistles to cover its lack of adequacy, much less quality. - kanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 If the Yamaha CP300 or CP50, Roland RD300GX, various Casios (Casii?), or the Kawai MP6 don't sound 'realistic' to you as your PC88 I think your ears are likely biased toward the instrument you've been playing for 15 years. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferris Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I agree. I used the PC88 for years, made a ton of dough with it but was glad to see it go eventually. On Jazz gigs, I felt like I was wearing a set of handcuffs if the tempo got over half note = 120. One friend who is a very fine RnB/Jazz player still swears by his PC88MX though. He's not up on the latest and greatest, it works for him so he's OK with it. But I think it's more the fact he's just really used to the sound and feel. I never minded the sound but more the action. That being said, the new Yamaha CP50/5, Korg SV-1 and Roland stuff are, at least to my ears and hands, light years ahead of that triple strike piano. https://soundcloud.com/dave-ferris https://www.youtube.com/@daveferris2709 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 ...as long as you don't play them thru Roland amps. Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonglow Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 To the OP: If you still dig your PC88, give the "Horowitz Grand" (Program #4) on the Kurzweil PC3X a whirl. It's like a PC88 on steroids! "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundown Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 IMO, there's no question that the sound quality of modern DP's is better than the past. Just think about polyphony for a moment. The first DP's were 8 and 16-voice polyphonic (e.g. Korg SG1D, Roland RD1000, Roland RD300s, etc). Even a PC88 is only 32 voices (which can still lead to voice stealing with a damper pedal). The modern standard is pretty much 128 voices. And with the advent of streaming virtual samplers, the sound quality has *really* jumped. I'm not a performer so portability isn't an issue, but in the studio, ~$300 will buy a very strong multi-gigabyte sample library with key release, pedaling noise, etc. A six-plus velocity layered piano would have been unthinkable years ago in a PCM-based instrument. I can't vouch for the quality of the actions being better or worse, but there are more wood keys on the market now than ever before. Before now, I can only recall the RD1000 as having real wood keys. Now Yamaha, Roland, etc. all offer wood keys on high-end models. Just some thoughts... Sundown Sundown Working on: The Jupiter Bluff; Driven Away Main axes: Kawai MP11 and Kurz PC361 DAW Platform: Cubase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellington Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 I just got PianoTeq and now I feel like I have a brand-new OS on my PC88! I have a feeling I'm not going to be hearing the internal sounds for a while! Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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