02R96 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Is it just me who thinks these guy's sound like a bad bar band? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=534xSSozXi8&feature=related Awful, just awful... Dan "I hate what I've become, trying to escape who I am..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuskBuffer Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Man, you ain't kidding! At first, I thought--it's just a youtube video, somebody's camcorder or cellphone, and they never sound good. Then I listened a little more...made it to about 1/2 way through before I was tempted to stick an icepick in my ear. Not that I want to crack on "bad bar bands," but EVH is a legend--should not sound like this! You've got the best guitar You've got the best amp Now get the best pick! http://www.tuskbuffer.net TuskBuffer Mammoth Ivory Guitar Picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 That's what you get when you have your son, a non-professional, in the band. Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvuksanovich Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 The other disappointing thing is that they look like they're just going through the motions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Michael Anthony added a lot to that band. He did the bass bass well and his vocals were killer. Maybe the problem is from all using too much Peavey gear. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Michael Anthony added a lot to that band. He did the bass bass well and his vocals were killer. Maybe the problem is from all using too much Peavey gear. I was never impressed with his bass playing. It seemed he was intent on all the bass parts being a simple, repetitive set of quarter notes. However, his voice did add a lot to the sound of the band. Clearly, he was better than his current replacement. Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 The funny I noticed when covering Van Halen is what the rythym section did was usually tougher than it sounded. Especially during the guitar breaks. I think the repetitive quarter note motifs worked really well due to the nature of their 3 piece music. I don't think a Noel Redding type of bass player would have fit. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Don't get me wrong, I think he was dead on and really provided a "driving force" along with the drums, it's just that I think he could have done so much more than he did. It was very...simplistic. Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarPlayerFL Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 The 2004 Van Hagar tour was a major disappointment...especially since I saw it in VH's home town at the Staples Center. http://www.iill.net/wp-content/uploads/images/jack-daniels.gif A Jazz/Chord Melody Master-my former instructor www.robertconti.com (FKA GuitarPlayerSoCal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreySeraph Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 that was so disappointing My Gear: 82 Gibson Explorer Ibanez 03 JEM7VWH PRS McCarty Soapbar Diezel Herbert 2007 Peters '11 Brahms Guitar Byers '01 Classical Hippner 8-Str Classical Taylor 614ce Framus Texan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. A. Donis Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Michael Anthony added a lot to that band. He did the bass bass well and his vocals were killer. Maybe the problem is from all using too much Peavey gear. I was never impressed with his bass playing. It seemed he was intent on all the bass parts being a simple, repetitive set of quarter notes. However, his voice did add a lot to the sound of the band. Clearly, he was better than his current replacement. I can't actually back this thought with any actual facts but I think Michael Anthony's bass playing was purposefully held back , possibly not his idea, to leave more room for guitar hero antics. His playing in Chickenfoot has a little more going on than the VH stuff. Until I came upon this realization I always thought MA's bass playing was lackluster and I never thought much of him as a bass player. It is a very real possibility that VH held him back. Oh and by the way I couldn't make it through that video. The backup vocals were absolutely horrendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruupi Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I cringed through that video. Roth can't sing anymore, Eddie was rusty at best, the background vocals were horrible. The only bright spot is that Alex is a pretty good f'ing drummer. It is kind of sad that people with this much talent don't develop, their first album was still their best in my opinion. My soundclick site: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=397188 My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/gruupi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02R96 Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 Personally, I can't stand Roth. Actually, VH as a group sucks now. But that's just me. Dan "I hate what I've become, trying to escape who I am..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Michael Anthony added a lot to that band. He did the bass bass well and his vocals were killer. Maybe the problem is from all using too much Peavey gear. I was never impressed with his bass playing. It seemed he was intent on all the bass parts being a simple, repetitive set of quarter notes. However, his voice did add a lot to the sound of the band. Clearly, he was better than his current replacement. I can't actually back this thought with any actual facts but I think Michael Anthony's bass playing was purposefully held back , possibly not his idea, to leave more room for guitar hero antics. His playing in Chickenfoot has a little more going on than the VH stuff. Until I came upon this realization I always thought MA's bass playing was lackluster and I never thought much of him as a bass player. It is a very real possibility that VH held him back. Oh and by the way I couldn't make it through that video. The backup vocals were absolutely horrendous. I'm with you. Do you think anybody can play bass for 30+ years, in a top-level band night after night, tour after tour on the biggest stages in the world next to one of the world's "virtuosos" and never "get good?" Especially someone who, I believe, manned the keyboards during a few songs in the set, too? Besides which, I thought it was universally kind of known that EVH dictated (if not played himself) those bass parts? This kind of reminds me of something hilarious I heard in a GC once: "Screw The Edge, that guy can't play!" "He can do one thing on guitar you can't: Get 20,000 people to pay to see him play, so shut up!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I can remember dropping some VH songs because no one could hit Michael Anthony's high harmony. We sounded better than that though on a good night. Everyone has bad performances. Does pervasive video mean you need to be perfect, every time, forever, just in case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEHpicker Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Hahahaha... nobody gets away with nothin with old videos on YouTube. SEHpicker The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picker Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Hey, don't blame it on Wolfie. He's playing the same part Anthony did for that song. It's not like it's that challenging. IF anyone isn't on their game, it's Eddie. He looks like he's phoning it in. Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02R96 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 Does pervasive video mean you need to be perfect, every time, forever, just in case? Well, considering the ridiculous ticket prices that some bands get away with, then yes you need to be perfect. Dan "I hate what I've become, trying to escape who I am..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. A. Donis Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I cringed through that video. Roth can't sing anymore, Eddie was rusty at best, the background vocals were horrible. The only bright spot is that Alex is a pretty good f'ing drummer. It is kind of sad that people with this much talent don't develop, their first album was still their best in my opinion. Personally I think Women and Children First is their best, although choosing from the first four is difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super combinator Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 MY GOD THAT WAS AWFUL!! Actually the above is more like a complement, words cant describe how bad that video is..........how embarassing I cringe watching & I was never in the band, man if I paid to see that I wud have demanded my $$$$ back if the rest of the show was this bad ralph city! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Does pervasive video mean you need to be perfect, every time, forever, just in case? Well, considering the ridiculous ticket prices that some bands get away with, then yes you need to be perfect. I thought so... Just confirming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Lead vocal good...Lead guitar good...Bass good...drums good...backing vocals, bad...(allowing for cheap recording gear like cell phones and camcorders at live concerts)...Eddie should be making enough money to hire some decent backing vocals while on tour and forget about singing with the bass player as neither sounded like they sing well IMHO... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Psmith Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I dunno, Larryz - the trouble started for me as soon as David started to sing. Couldn't get through the whole vid. "Monsters are real, and Ghosts are real too. They live inside us, and sometimes, they win." Stephen King http://www.novparolo.com https://thewinstonpsmithproject.bandcamp.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 WP, I made through to the end and there is no doubt that David sang much better without Eddie and his bassman trying to sing backing vocals...not saying David was all that great either considering the money people probably shelled out to hear these guys... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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