dazzjazz Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Hi all, Yesterday between gigs I picked up a K10 which I been wanting for months. Xmas gigs have been good to me so I thought what the hell! I first powered it up at the gig and wasn't disappointed with how my CP33 sounded. The sound has a lot of focus and character across the spectrum. The midrange of the piano has a good amount of meat and the tops are crystal clear without being harsh. Unfortunately the crowd were talking loud last night so it wasn't the best environment but it definitely is a step up from my Mackie SRM350, which, to be fair, sounded pretty good. Haven't tried playing organ through it yet but will do so. Cheers Darren. www.dazzjazz.com PhD in Jazz Organ Improvisation. BMus (Hons) Jazz Piano. my YouTube is Jazz Organ Bites 1961 A100.Leslie 45 & 122. MAG P-2 Organ. Kawai K300J. Yamaha CP4. Moog Matriarch. KIWI-8P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morizzle Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Darren, which piano sound do you play? I seem to prefer the Mono Piano with EQ-Settings on medium. With the C1, I found it necessary to cut the basses on the C1's EQ a little bit (I have the knob for the deep frequencies at around 11 o'clock). Even on my headphones I had the feeling the C1 was putting out too much bass. Another thing - it seems to be crucial where you put the K10. I had a gig with the C1 where I sat next to the speaker (which I used for monitoring and PA), and I didn't enjoy the sound. But the recordings done from a Zoom H2 in front of the band (organ & drums) sounded really nice + I got compliments on my sound from the crowd. In which position do you put it when you play? It's not a clone, it's a Suzuki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelHead Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Hi all, Yesterday between gigs I picked up a K10 which I been wanting for months. Xmas gigs have been good to me so I thought what the hell! I first powered it up at the gig and wasn't disappointed with how my CP33 sounded. The sound has a lot of focus and character across the spectrum. The midrange of the piano has a good amount of meat and the tops are crystal clear without being harsh. Unfortunately the crowd were talking loud last night so it wasn't the best environment but it definitely is a step up from my Mackie SRM350, which, to be fair, sounded pretty good. Haven't tried playing organ through it yet but will do so. Cheers Darren. I put organ now through 2 K12s and a KSUB via Ventilator with VB3-2. It's sound is ridiculous (meaning good). Written before: the KSUB just does miracles for the bass lines. Just registered them today for the free 6 year, transferable warranty at their website. Can't be more pleased with the speakers. Originally ordered K10s but was able to pick up where I wanted to buy K12s in stock. Mostly used for piano they are slightly more than I wanted in weight (thusly the K10s) but I guess I can handle a bit more weight than I wanted (to go very light) W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 About what I expected to hear, Darren. Glad that the K10 is working out for you. I'm planning to upgrade the monitoring portion of my rig in 2011. A K12 is definitely on my radar. 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanL Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Organ on the K10 sounds as good as you'd expect, just like any other sound sounds great. For the 1st time ever, I was told I was TOO LOUD at a gig. The guys enjoyed ribbing me about it. At the next gig I realized why- we plugged our guitar player and his laptop into it for a dinner nset, and I found there was little drop off in volume from a few feet out to many feet out. Where other speakers would be much softer 20' away, the K10 was still just as loud as it was 4' away. So when I was cranked up at a volume I thought was good for me, it was apparently too good for everyone else! Live: Korg Kronos 2 88, Nord Electro 5d Nord Lead A1 Toys: Roland FA08, Novation Ultranova, Moog LP, Roland SP-404SX, Roland JX10,Emu MK6 www.bksband.com www.echoesrocks.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzjazz Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 Hi Mo, I only ever use the mono Piano on gigs - the 1st variation is the one I like. I usually have the EQ on medium but last night I found I had it on mellow (or whatever it is..). I'd like to be running stereo but that would involve another trip to the car - let's no go there in this thread eh?! As for position, the K10 was on the floor off to my left. Haven't tried it for organ yet - I will but I quite lke my Motion Sound Pro 145. Will post here when I've tried it. Darren Darren, which piano sound do you play? I seem to prefer the Mono Piano with EQ-Settings on medium. With the C1, I found it necessary to cut the basses on the C1's EQ a little bit (I have the knob for the deep frequencies at around 11 o'clock). Even on my headphones I had the feeling the C1 was putting out too much bass. Another thing - it seems to be crucial where you put the K10. I had a gig with the C1 where I sat next to the speaker (which I used for monitoring and PA), and I didn't enjoy the sound. But the recordings done from a Zoom H2 in front of the band (organ & drums) sounded really nice + I got compliments on my sound from the crowd. In which position do you put it when you play? www.dazzjazz.com PhD in Jazz Organ Improvisation. BMus (Hons) Jazz Piano. my YouTube is Jazz Organ Bites 1961 A100.Leslie 45 & 122. MAG P-2 Organ. Kawai K300J. Yamaha CP4. Moog Matriarch. KIWI-8P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasGT3 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I use a K12 with my C1 and a ventilator. I actually turn the bass and mids up in the eq and the treble down a bit. I don't need to use the deep sub, sounds good. YMMV. Kurzweil PC3x, Nord Electro 3, Nord C-1, Casio Privia PX-3, Yamaha DX-7, Korg Polysix, Moog Taurus 3, Yamaha Motif XS (rack),Ventilator, QSC K12, K10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucktronix Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 My CX3 and Vent sound great through the K12. The organ still has balls, but you can hear the shimmering highs and yet there's a healthy amount of bass. I never had a need to use the deep bass setting. Kronos 88 Platinum, Yamaha YC88, Subsequent 37, Korg CX3, Hydrasynth 49-key, Nord Electro 5D 73, QSC K8.2, Lester K Me & The Boyz Chris Beard Band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rappa29 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I bought a K12 last week and run a similar rig (XK1->Vent->1202->K12). IT DID NOT DISAPPOINT! Actually, on the field recording I made, the organ is too loud! LOL! It definitely has some cajones in the low end! I EQ'd flat on the 1202. I play a Fantom X6 for all other sounds and the K12 really brought new life to my Rhodes and Wurly sounds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle ggurl Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Interesting to hear about the consistent projection at 4' and 20'. Definitely a characteristic to keep in mind when I'm trying stuff out! I see this as mainly a good thing, since it seems you don't have to kill yourself with your own sound to be present out "there". Original Latin Jazz CD Baby "I am not certain how original my contribution to music is as I am obviously an amateur." Patti Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Interesting to hear about the consistent projection at 4' and 20'.You should hear how good 4'33" sounds at 4' and 20'... A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clpete Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Interesting to hear about the consistent projection at 4' and 20'.You should hear how good 4'33" sounds at 4' and 20'... Every sounds better at 4-20 We play for free. We get paid to set up and tear down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanL Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Interesting to hear about the consistent projection at 4' and 20'. Definitely a characteristic to keep in mind when I'm trying stuff out! I see this as mainly a good thing, since it seems you don't have to kill yourself with your own sound to be present out "there". That was a surprise to me, and a good one- not something I had even considered before purchasing. Of course, I made my purchase on the advice of everyone here, I hadn't heard it before, and I'm very happy so far. Live: Korg Kronos 2 88, Nord Electro 5d Nord Lead A1 Toys: Roland FA08, Novation Ultranova, Moog LP, Roland SP-404SX, Roland JX10,Emu MK6 www.bksband.com www.echoesrocks.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Interesting to hear about the consistent projection at 4' and 20'.You should hear how good 4'33" sounds at 4' and 20'... Every sounds better at 4-20 No wonder David Crosby made his song "4 and 20" -- I should've known... EDIT: Whoops, Stills wrote that one. Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I think it's a recent cultural reference, isn't it? I only became aware of it a few years ago when we realized we had to put something AGAINST "420" in our band ads, so the stoners would quit showing up at our auditions (the assumption is "420-friendly" unless stated otherwise). Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Of course, I made my purchase on the advice of everyone here, I hadn't heard it before, and I'm very happy so far. That's how I made the decision too. What a great community. I am used to band mates asking me to turn up because they can't hear me because my amplification didn't project. Now, well let's say it's nice to occasionally feel like a guitar player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoodyBluesKeys Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Now, well let's say it's nice to occasionally feel like a guitar player. Since I bought a Vox Tonelab, I can now plug my guitar into the Vox, plug the Vox in the K10 - and sound like a guitar player with a 1000 watt amp Or even better, just use my PC3 on the "Falgor's Lament" patch - that one is gnarlier than the Vox set on full metal. (looking for SMIRK emoticon) Howard Grand|Hamm SK1-73|Kurz PC2|PC2X|PC3|PC3X|PC361; QSC K10's HP DAW|Epi Les Paul & LP 5-str bass|iPad mini2 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Guitar players need to be drowned out. "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Guitar players need to be drowned. Fixed it for ya! "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Look what turned up in my rig last night: http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt198/allanevett/K10.jpg For 31 Lbs, it's one kick-ass cabinet. The K10 is the sweetest little piece o' PA I've ever had After one rehearsal Friday, and the gig Saturday, there's just one question: "Why didn't I do this sooner ?" 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzjazz Posted January 31, 2011 Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 Good one Allan. I'm super happy with mine. And all the bandleaders who book me are impressed - Happy Days! www.dazzjazz.com PhD in Jazz Organ Improvisation. BMus (Hons) Jazz Piano. my YouTube is Jazz Organ Bites 1961 A100.Leslie 45 & 122. MAG P-2 Organ. Kawai K300J. Yamaha CP4. Moog Matriarch. KIWI-8P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzjazz Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 I just spent the afternoon playing my Nord C1 through the K10. Just fantastic - really pleasing sound. Will be great for small gigs. Plenty of bass, nice balance. Slight midrange emphasis but nothing to worry about. www.dazzjazz.com PhD in Jazz Organ Improvisation. BMus (Hons) Jazz Piano. my YouTube is Jazz Organ Bites 1961 A100.Leslie 45 & 122. MAG P-2 Organ. Kawai K300J. Yamaha CP4. Moog Matriarch. KIWI-8P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Used my K10 on the gig last night. Input 1 was a monitor mix of the band, minus keys. Input 2 was a monitor send from my mixer. With vocal boost selected on the K10 both the audio clarity and separation were outstanding. The band mix included electronic drums (Roland TD 20..), bass, electric and acoustic guitars, and 3 vocals. My rig included the Roland RD-700NX, and Motif XF7 driving a Receptor 2 (mostly for VB3). The K10 took all of this and reproduced it extremely well. Makes hearing what I need on stage a breeze. 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonianKing Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I had a friend who once recommended me that k10, interesting to know it's highly good stuff, i'll need to upgrade very soon and will surely look that one up. Now, do you guys use it as a personal PA/monitor? or? "The purple piper plays his tune, The choir softly sing; Three lullabies in an ancient tongue, For the court of the crimson king" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Now, do you guys use it as a personal PA/monitor? or? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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