offnote Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Whole clip is great but look especially at 6:11... [video:youtube]029r-VEUlbQ Great movie BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz+ Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Hiromi would win in that contest. I Got Rhythm The Tom and Jerry Show Find 660 of my jazz piano arrangements of standards for educational purposes and tutorials at www.Patreon.com/HarryLikas Harry was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonksDream Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Hiromi would win in that contest. ...not to mention Herbie, for starters. Instrumentation is meaningless - a song either stands on its own merit, or it requires bells and whistles to cover its lack of adequacy, much less quality. - kanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz+ Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Yes, Herbie could too, he's a greater improviser than Hiromi. And Alfredo Rodriguez would be another young contender: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csM_M-j3UNE Find 660 of my jazz piano arrangements of standards for educational purposes and tutorials at www.Patreon.com/HarryLikas Harry was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Motif, I was intrigued by the topic of this thread, but upon finding you're referencing the famous "1900 vs. Jelly Roll" duel, it's a complete misnomer. 1900 is a jazz pianist. If you've watched the entire movie (The Legend of 1900, one of my all time favorite movies), you know the premise is that 1900 (Tim Roth's character) is simply a masterful improviser who is able to express whatever his imagination conjures, instantly, at the keyboard. His music transcends easy genre boundaries, and the excellent soundtrack work by Gilda Butta (who, I believe has a long association with Ennio Morricone) encompasses jazz, as well as classical elements. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonksDream Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Yes, Herbie could too, he's a greater artist than Hiromi. And Alfredo Rodriguez would be another young contender: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csM_M-j3UNE However, I think 31 old Hiromi is more athletic than 70 year old Herbie at this point. I didn't mean to compare Herbie/Hiromi, just to point out that there are a few jazz players that would handily 'win' this 'duel'. Eigsti is another one that springs to mind. And, having seen Herbie recently, I don't think his classical technique has suffered much with age. They are both more than adequate to the task. Instrumentation is meaningless - a song either stands on its own merit, or it requires bells and whistles to cover its lack of adequacy, much less quality. - kanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Otis Spann would whip em all... ...with one note. A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Otis Spann would whip em all... ...with one note. In mono, no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Otis Spann would whip em all... ...with one note. In mono, no less. On a Casio. A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Do Casios sound phasey in mono? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Do Casios sound phasey in mono? Only when Hiromi plays one because her licks are so blazingly fast that they are out of phase with themselves. Really. A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Do Casios sound phasey in mono? The piano does. I think it self-cancels sometimes, it's so phasey. A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus64 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 If you've watched the entire movie (The Legend of 1900, one of my all time favorite movies), Good film, saw it several times. Very allegorical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephonic Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kflW-MksMWs&feature=related pwned! gear list.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offnote Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 Motif, I was intrigued by the topic of this thread, but upon finding you're referencing the famous "1900 vs. Jelly Roll" duel, it's a complete misnomer. 1900 is a jazz pianist. well, I don't quite agree. He was exceptional improviser that's true but as J.S Bach was as well and still nobody called him jazzer. Jazz is considered to be american tradition. Main character played through out the movie in rather classical style anyway. Contrary to popular believes classical musicians (the good ones)improvise quite often. BTW do you know if that "burning" piece was real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offnote Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 Hiromi would win in that contest. come on, really? could she light up cigarette from the string? I don't think so. Her improvisational skills are not that great as her technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnchop Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I don't really get the whole point of this "who's better?" business, with everyone swinging their chops around. It doesn't matter, unless there are real stakes: [video:youtube]D0QKbnCDW94 I make software noises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuzikTeechur Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 BTW do you know if that "burning" piece was real? Of course it was real. Just as real as growing 4 more hands while playing the piano. Sometimes when I play really fast I feel a nub starting to form at my right elbow, but I haven't actually grown another hand yet. Always keep a fire extinguisher handy when playing (or, at least, a cigarette). Muzikteechur is Lonnie, in Kittery, Maine. HS music teacher: Concert Band, Marching Band, Jazz Band, Chorus, Music Theory, AP Music Theory, History of Rock, Musical Theatre, Piano, Guitar, Drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offnote Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 BTW do you know if that "burning" piece was real? Of course it was real. Just as real as growing 4 more hands while playing the piano. Sometimes when I play really fast I feel a nub starting to form at my right elbow, but I haven't actually grown another hand yet. Always keep a fire extinguisher handy when playing (or, at least, a cigarette). :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I don't really get the whole point of this "who's better?" business, with everyone swinging their chops around. It doesn't matter, unless there are real stakes: [video:youtube]D0QKbnCDW94 This has to be the best work Ralph Macchio's ever thrown on the screen. Daniel-san pwning Vai demands the same suspension of reality as any of the Karate Kid movies. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Motif, I was intrigued by the topic of this thread, but upon finding you're referencing the famous "1900 vs. Jelly Roll" duel, it's a complete misnomer. 1900 is a jazz pianist. well, I don't quite agree. He was exceptional improviser that's true but as J.S Bach was as well and still nobody called him jazzer. Jazz is considered to be american tradition. Main character played through out the movie in rather classical style anyway. Contrary to popular believes classical musicians (the good ones)improvise quite often. BTW do you know if that "burning" piece was real? Well, that's cool, Motif...I don't pretend to be an authority on "1900". But doesn't Jelly Roll refer to him in the movie (prior to the duel) as "the guy who plays 18 kinds of jazz"? That's the rep he's gotten, although clearly 1900 with his "and f*ck jazz too" dismissal as Morton departs the ship seemed to indicate he could care less about the genre categories or boundaries. The opening to the "Playing Love" piece (girl in the porthole) is clearly jazz harmony as well. Just my take on it. And I light cigars with my piano all the time. It was originally a ninja thing. "If do right, Daniel-san, no can defense". .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz+ Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 That Ralph Macchio scene is amusing. Find 660 of my jazz piano arrangements of standards for educational purposes and tutorials at www.Patreon.com/HarryLikas Harry was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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