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The Blues are off to a great start this season. It's still early, but who would have thunk that 11 games into the season they'd have only 1 loss? Not me.

 

Halak!!!

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He's big reason for sure. I can't believe the Habs traded him, especially after the way he dominated in the playoffs last year.

 

You should have seen how the fans here reacted. It was an outrage!

 

However, Carey Price's scouting reports, experience, and young age all indicate that he'll become a top rank goaltender.

 

So far, this season he's been great. His concentration seems to remain even after he give's up a few goals, and is able to make key saves to keep his team in the game.

 

I think they're both gonna become great goaltenders now that they each have their #1 spot on a team.

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True, Halak and Price are both #1 caliber goalies, but in my opinion Halak has proved himself and Price has not yet. If it were me in charge of the Habs and I had to put my eggs in one basket, going with Halak would have been a no-brainer. Better yet, keep both of them, if possible. It pays to have two solid options in goal.
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If it were me in charge of the Habs and I had to put my eggs in one basket, going with Halak would have been a no-brainer. Better yet, keep both of them, if possible. It pays to have two solid options in goal.

 

During the playoff run last season every single sports commentator and fan was convinced that the #1 spot was to be given to Halak. It wasn't even a contest.

 

When the trade was announced it was a complete outrage and the hockey community was left baffled. How could Gauthier let go of the single biggest reason the Habs got to the third round of the playoffs?

 

But they have their faith in Price. He is still very young. If he maintains his focus, concentration and positive attitude, he should be an all-star goalie in a few years.

 

It would have been to nobody's benefit to keep both Halak and Price, not even good for the Habs. Everybody is better off now. They each have their #1 spot, and they're both better goaltenders for it. And both teams benefit.

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Interesting change to the all-star game. No more East vs West, and instead of voting, they're going school yard style and having two captains pick the teams. Sounds a little crazy to me, but all-star games in general, no matter the sport, have always been really boring to me, so maybe this will spice it up a bit.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=5788378

 

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After watching Halak dominate the Caps in their first-round series last year, I couldn't believe that the Habs let him go. Quite simply, that guy put on one of the greatest goaltending performances EVER (his 53 saves in Game 6), and I struggle to understand how you let a guy like that go. I agree, though: One of them had to go, and the Habs chose to keep Price. So be it.

 

For my part, I'm just glad that Halak will be minding the net in the Western Conference playoffs this year!

 

Noah

 

P.S. Don't look now, but the Capitals have won 6 straight and 8 of their last 9. Unfortunately, they're continuing to win as they did last season -- by giving up lots of goals but scoring even more. That makes me nervous for the playoffs....again.

 

 

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After watching Halak dominate the Caps in their first-round series last year, I couldn't believe that the Habs let him go. Quite simply, that guy put on one of the greatest goaltending performances EVER (his 53 saves in Game 6), and I struggle to understand how you let a guy like that go. I agree, though: One of them had to go, and the Habs chose to keep Price. So be it.

 

So be it, but if you've followed the Habs so far this season, you'd know that Price has been spectacular. 2 shutouts (inlcuding one against Vancouver), 9 wins, and, most importantly, key saves at key moments in almost every game to keep his team in the game.

 

The way I see it, both goaltenders (Halak and Price) AND both teams (Habs and Blues) have benefited from the trade.

 

 

For my part, I'm just glad that Halak will be minding the net in the Western Conference playoffs this year!

 

P.S. Don't look now, but the Capitals have won 6 straight and 8 of their last 9. Unfortunately, they're continuing to win as they did last season -- by giving up lots of goals but scoring even more. That makes me nervous for the playoffs....again.

 

Your nervousness is merited. Just like in the World Series the best pitching will ALWAYS beat the best hitting, in the Stanley Cup playoffs, the best goaltending and defence will always beat the best offence. The habs vs the Capitals and the Pens last year are perfect examples.

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... if you've followed the Habs so far this season, you'd know that Price has been spectacular. 2 shutouts (inlcuding one against Vancouver), 9 wins, and, most importantly, key saves at key moments in almost every game to keep his team in the game.

 

You may well be right about the Habs' decision to keep Price instead of Halak, but, at least at the moment, Halak is leading Price in both save percentage (.932 to .923) and GAA (1.79 to 2.19). Halak also has 3 shutouts to Price's two. I know stats don't tell the whole story, but I just don't think it's so clear yet that the Habs made the right decision.

 

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You may well be right about the Habs' decision to keep Price instead of Halak, but, at least at the moment, Halak is leading Price in both save percentage (.932 to .923) and GAA (1.79 to 2.19). Halak also has 3 shutouts to Price's two. I know stats don't tell the whole story, but I just don't think it's so clear yet that the Habs made the right decision.

 

I'm not saying that Price is a better goalie than Halak.

 

What I'm saying is that the Habs couldn't keep both of them. They're both #1 goalie material in almost any NHL team.

 

They made a really tough choice in keeping Price especially after what Halak did for the team during the playoffs. Everyone in this city was outraged.

 

Hockey is religion up here and the habs have been part of our city's history for over 100 years. So you could imagine how the media and the fans felt when the trade was announced.

 

But now after 15 starts, unless Price has a complete breakdown, the fans are behind Price 100%. He's been voted 1 of 3 stars in almost every game this season including certain losses.

 

Halak has also been spectacular and has helped St. Louis be one of the best teams in the West so far.

 

And BTW, leave statistics out of it. The end result is what's really important. They're both helping their teams win games, and that's all that matters.

 

You want to talk statistics, every hockey scout in the world will tell you that Price has the better scouting report in terms of size, lateral movements, instincets. etc. Plus to have the that much experience in pressure situations at that young age make him a better prospect. At least that's what the scouts said after the trade.

 

So the Habs put their faith in Price, and so far has really delivered on that promise.

 

Either way, both are great goaltenders, and I'm happy for both of them. They each have their #1 spot, and are both helping their teams have a great season..........so far.

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What I'm saying is that the Habs couldn't keep both of them. They're both #1 goalie material in almost any NHL team.

 

I agree that they couldn't keep both, but all I'm saying is that I'm not yet convinced that the Habs made the right choice. If the hockey-mad Habs fans are satisfied based on what Price has done thus far, terrific. You guys know a lot more about this game than those of us below the border (especially those of us in the southern half of the States!).

 

 

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I just got back from the Caps/Thrashers game tonight, a 6-4 win for the Capitals at home. As I said in an earlier post, the Caps are simply giving up too many goals and relying on their offense to pull out victories. It's deja vu all over again, and I sense another playoff disappointment for the Caps this year unless the front office does something to enhance this roster....

 

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GO HABS GO!!!!! 4 in a row baby!!!!

 

As for the Price/Halak debate, Price just won 4 straight games including 2 shutouts against 2 of the most devastating offences in the NHL (Vancouver and Philadelphia). Last night was particularly satisfying to watch. I f@#$%ing hate the Flyers!

 

Markov out long term with another injury on the same knee. Man, I feel bad for the dude, barely 7 games back in and he's out again.

 

Luckily the habs have gotten used to playing without their best defenseman.

 

 

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Yeah, I'm starting to see the value in Carey Price more as time goes on. I'm sure it was a tough decision to make, but if it was me, I still would have moved Price rather than Halak. Either way, I think they could have gotten more in return from the Blues, like a Matt D'Agostini, Patrik Berglund, T.J. Oshie, or David Perron to give the Habs some young scoring depth.
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Yeah, I'm starting to see the value in Carey Price more as time goes on. I'm sure it was a tough decision to make, but if it was me, I still would have moved Price rather than Halak. Either way, I think they could have gotten more in return from the Blues, like a Matt D'Agostini, Patrik Berglund, T.J. Oshie, or David Perron to give the Habs some young scoring depth.

 

That's the one thing about that trade I still regret.

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Alright, guys. What is going on? How have the Oilers suddenly won four straight games, six out of their last eight? Where did this come from?

 

Oh yeah, the kids! :cool: Hall scores the OT winner tonight. He, Eberle and Paajarvi have been huge in the last little while! And the thing is, eeven if they're generating offence, they're exceptional in the d-zone for the young hotshots they are! Who knows, we may be coming up from the basement!

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The Oilers have nowhere to go but up, for sure. At the very least, they don't have the league's worst record for the first time in a long time. Taylor Hall is already looking mighty good, and Ryan Whitney is an assist machine this year. All that said, they're still ranked last in defense and penalty kill, so the Oilers still have a long way to go for continued success.

 

In other news, I guess I must have jinxed the Blues when I mentioned their hot start a while ago. They went from best record in the league to last in their division in less than a month. Ouch. What happened?

 

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Even though our team still exists, we haven't been able to sing a song like that since 1991-1992, I believe. Oh, days of Gretzky, Messier, Kurri, Coffey, Anderson, Fuhr and Semenko! How I long for thee!

 

Glory days, indeed. I'm all too familiar with the feeling from my other sports passion -- professional football. My Redskins' last days of greatness were the same number of years ago. Mem'ries....

 

Noah

 

P.S. Terrible loss for my Capitals tonight at home against the Leafs. Up 4-1, they give up three straight goals (including two within a minute with under 2 1/2 minutes to play in the game), and then get totally blanked in the shoot-out. Ugh.

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Even though our team still exists, we haven't been able to sing a song like that since 1991-1992, I believe. Oh, days of Gretzky, Messier, Kurri, Coffey, Anderson, Fuhr and Semenko! How I long for thee!

 

And we haven't been able to sing that song since 1967. See, you guys won one in color we did it in black and white....

 

Cheers,

Ed

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Captain Shawn Horcoff is out for two months with a torn knee ligament. Assistant captain Ales Hemsky is out with a bad groin. The Oilers recalled Ryan O'Marra and Linus Omark from the Oklahoma City Barons on Thursday to fill their spots. Horcoff+Hemsky=1100+ games of experience. Before last night's game, O'Marra+Omark=4 games of experience. The end result?

 

[video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5powwre3H8I

 

Omark is known for his overflowing skill and sick dangles. He was sent down at the beginning of the year; the odd man out of four stellar rookie forwards. He complained, but did not take it over the line. He's been working hard and, now that he's got his chance, is intent on making the most of it.

 

This goal drew the ire of Tampa's players (Ryan Malone called it "a f***ing joke"). It's all in the eye of the beholder, right? What do you guys think? As an Oilers fan, it's a slice of heaven, but only because it worked. Had the Lightning won because of a failed attempt from Omark, he wouldn't have lasted long here.

 

A little more Omark eye candy:

 

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Hopefully he also has skills that will translate to in-game situations, as it's very rare that you'll ever have a window of opportunity to pull a move like that anywhere other than a shootout. Thus, you have guys like Wojtek Wolski that are known for being shootout specialists, but have never really been able to produce comparable numbers. That could have been the reason why Omark was sent to the minors to develop further.
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Same with Jussi Jokinen. He's playing alright, for now. He still needs to adapt a little the north american game and work on his defensive play, but he's got the right attitude. There's no question he's still below Hall, Eberle and Paajarvi on the depth chart, though. Once Hemsky comes back, he's probably going back down.

 

Speaking of all these great prospects, who's getting excited for the World Juniors? I sure as hell am!

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