Dana. Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Sonny: 80. Ornette: 80. Roy: 85. Insane! "Sonnymoon For Two" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieP_MechE Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Awesome! Anybody know what Ornette's quoting at 3:43 and 8:27? Sounds familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferris Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 It's a testament to how powerful the music is, it keeps you young in heart and spirit. A friend just played a gig in Chicago with multi-instrumentalist Ira Sullivan. He said Ira at 79 still has the enthusiasm of a 25 yr. old kid. https://soundcloud.com/dave-ferris https://www.youtube.com/@daveferris2709 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Awesome! Anybody know what Ornette's quoting at 3:43 and 8:27? Sounds familiar. It sounds like Ornette is just doing his signature fragmentary melodic lines - I don't believe they are quotes. Just the way he plays. Sonny goes into an Ornette bag himself near the last part. Sonny can play lines that would sound corny if another sax player tried to play them. His tone pulls everything off in a big way. What a historic treat to hear those 3 together. Thanks for posting it. CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/stevekessler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted September 14, 2010 Author Share Posted September 14, 2010 Sonny goes into an Ornette bag himself near the last part. Great observation. You can definitely hear that Sonny was inspired by what Ornette was playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meisenhower Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Man I've heard two out of the three this year (Sonny and Roy) and they're still amazing and playing with fire!!! Couldn't see the post anymore, as it has been removed!! Yamaha C7 Grand, My Hammonds: '57 B3, '54 C2, '42 BC, '40 D, '05 XK3 Pro System, Kawai MP9000, Fender Rhodes Mk I 73, Yamaha CP33, Motif ES6, Nord Electro 2, Minimoog Voyager & Model D, Korg MS10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 Not sure why it was removed... I'll update the link if it's reposted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieP_MechE Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Awesome! Anybody know what Ornette's quoting at 3:43 and 8:27? Sounds familiar. It sounds like Ornette is just doing his signature fragmentary melodic lines - I don't believe they are quotes. Just the way he plays. I thought about it a bit more, and there was a recording of a Bach Prelude that he did with Prime Time that I was introduced to in a jazz history class in college. I listened to that song to death. I think that "quote" or something similar was also in that Bach piece. Though you're probably right that it's an Ornette original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Awesome! Anybody know what Ornette's quoting at 3:43 and 8:27? Sounds familiar. It sounds like Ornette is just doing his signature fragmentary melodic lines - I don't believe they are quotes. Just the way he plays. I thought about it a bit more, and there was a recording of a Bach Prelude that he did with Prime Time that I was introduced to in a jazz history class in college. I listened to that song to death. I think that "quote" or something similar was also in that Bach piece. Though you're probably right that it's an Ornette original. Hey, you could be right. It's just that those points on the video sounded like major scale type lines found in a lot of music, which Ornette uses a lot. And he has a way of playing things that sound like you've "heard it before", which is something I like about his playing. In the past, I listened to all his recordings and he rarely quotes, but sometimes he will... On his original recording of the song "Turnaround", he solo starts with a blatant hilarious quote of Rodgers and Hammerstein's "If I Loved You" overtop of the blues progression. CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/stevekessler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 Speaking of hilarious quoting, did anyone do it better than Dexter Gordon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Speaking of hilarious quoting, did anyone do it better than Dexter Gordon? No one better. Except... I do have an old friend (unknown guitar virtuoso) who is the King Of Quotes. I'd say nobody else comes close. His solos are about 30%-60% quotes from every source imaginable. If I get an audio, sometime I'll post an example. CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/stevekessler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferris Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Speaking of Dexter and quotes reminds of the time I heard him at the now long gone "Concerts by the Sea" in Redondo Beach on the pier there. It was '79 or early '80 and I'd just moved to LA and I was in awe of the all people that came through. Blakey, Phil Woods, Freddie, Tommy Flanagan to name a few. I chose to attend opening night of a week long run with Dexter, I was also a big fan of George Cables who was playing with him then. So it's something like 8:15 and no Dexter. The trio finally got up and played a few tunes. At around 8:40, Howard Rumsey, the famous club owner, gets up and says, "Ladies and Gentlemen, I regret to inform you, there has been a slight problem in communication. Dexter should be arriving within the next 15 minutes". Turns out he flew into LAX late, he was coming from another gig. He was driving by himself and not used to driving a car. Somehow he got the directions messed up (he probably was...nah ) and started heading North up PCH towards Malibu instead of South to Redondo. He gets there about 9:00 straight up just as the Trio is ready to break. He doesn't even take off his coat and the band launches into his signature (at that time) "It's you or no one". The packed club is going crazy, people are yelling and screaming when he starts blowing. Right off he starts quoting "If I only had a brain", "The Fool on the Hill", "Do you know the way to San Jose", it was brilliant. I think they played for another half hour straight. The rhythm section guys were about ready to keel over. What a great night. https://soundcloud.com/dave-ferris https://www.youtube.com/@daveferris2709 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 Great story, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Awesome, Dave. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieP_MechE Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 It's just that those points on the video sounded like major scale type lines found in a lot of music, which Ornette uses a lot. I see. To my ears, that lick sounded "classical" music-ish, which is probably why I associate it with that Bach prelude. I do have an old friend (unknown guitar virtuoso) who is the King Of Quotes. I'd say nobody else comes close. His solos are about 30%-60% quotes from every source imaginable. If I get an audio, sometime I'll post an example. Please do! Great story, Dave. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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