desertbluesman Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 http://www.egnateramps.com/TweakerHead.html 15 watts w 2-6V6 tubes. Which leads to the use of 6L6's with some mods (I am guessing). It is said to list for $399. it has a buffered effects loop so a nice verb stomp can go there, without getting out of control with amp distortion. dbm If it sounds good, it is good !! http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=143231&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 hmmmmm... very interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 That looks to be a lot of very cool amp for the money! I think I'd love this amp. 15 watts w 2-6V6 tubes. Which leads to the use of 6L6's with some mods (I am guessing). Probably wouldn't even require any actual "mods", other than adjusting the bias. But why would you want to? Between all of the controls for tweaking tone and feel, your guitar's volume-knob, and your "touch", you should be able to get a lot out of this amp. Need a little higher, cleaner headroom? Turn up the volume on the amp, turn down the volume on the guitar, and pick accordingly. Its duet of 6V6s and output-transformer doubtless let you get things you can't get out of 2x6L6 amps without undue excessive volume. If you want something sorta like that, but with a pair of 6L6's innitt- you want another amp, with a heftier output-transformer. Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Looks great for packing around and I've heard they sound great, but I like at least 30 watts... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Lotsa times, even 30 watts is still too loud for "natural" output-section overdrive in most situations, like on my friend's Vox AC-30, or my Carvin 'Vintage 33' 1x12 combo. Surprisingly LOUD! Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 After considering getting a smaller amp (actually I picked up a 15 watt ampeg Jet, which isn't loud enough for most of the band situation I play in) I just got an attenuator and use it with the AC30, Bedrock 50, Sovtek Midget Mig 50 (which actually is a master volume that sounds good at low settings but isn't the right sound for every gig I do), Blues Deville 4 x 10 and even an old Twin Reverb. And I bring something that lets me point the amp right at my head. Sound guys thank me for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Geoff Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Are Vox AC30s really 30W RMS these days? I somehow got the impression they were nearer 60W. G. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the World will know Peace": Jimi Hendrix http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=738517&content=music The Geoff - blame Caevan!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbluesman Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 But why would you want to? I would not want to myself, just saying that is what I would foresee knowing how folks have modded several smaller amps in the recent past. If I was to get one of these amps, I would probably play it as is. Maybe some hotter tubes, and hotter BIAS adjustments but no more than that for me. dbm If it sounds good, it is good !! http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=143231&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbluesman Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 Lotsa times, even 30 watts is still too loud for "natural" output-section overdrive in most situations, like on my friend's Vox AC-30, or my Carvin 'Vintage 33' 1x12 combo. Surprisingly LOUD! yeah my Hot Rod Deluxe is waaaaay loud. I rarely get the volume up past 2. And I have a volume box that plugs into the efx loop, and I have that attenuated as well. But for a real live play situation the HRD would be just right for a mid sized venue. dbm If it sounds good, it is good !! http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=143231&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Are Vox AC30s really 30W RMS these days? I somehow got the impression they were nearer 60W. G. Don't know specifically for sure what their nominal wattage is, but I do know that they use a quartet of EL84s, and 60 watts would be quite beyond their capacity. Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Lotsa times, even 30 watts is still too loud for "natural" output-section overdrive in most situations, like on my friend's Vox AC-30, or my Carvin 'Vintage 33' 1x12 combo. Surprisingly LOUD! yeah my Hot Rod Deluxe is waaaaay loud. I rarely get the volume up past 2. And I have a volume box that plugs into the efx loop, and I have that attenuated as well. But for a real live play situation the HRD would be just right for a mid sized venue. Do you like those efx loop volume things? It's kind of like adding another master volume on the clean channel, but I wasn't fond of them on the Blues DeVille, tone-wise. And yeah, 2 is "loud" on those things, and of course lower than 2 it isn't even on... As far as the AC30 it sounds best if you just set the master volume no lower than a little over halfway, which is loud... so the attenuator is the best way to go. I was going to shell out for a Weber, but an amp tech guy said this $50 "Little Sucker" would be good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Are Vox AC30s really 30W RMS these days? I somehow got the impression they were nearer 60W. G. There's a switch on the back for "vintage" and "modern" and one for "warm" and "hot." One of them supposedly cuts it to 22 watts and the other makes it 33 watts, but my amp guy says it's probably more like 40 watts vs. 60 watts when all is said and done. Likewise, he says a Deluxe Reverb is probably putting out close to 40 watts cranked rather than 22 watts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbluesman Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 Do you like those efx loop volume things? Yeah I like them. at least on the HRD. It takes away the harshness of the pick noises, because like any audio taper volume pot it attenuates the highs just enough to do that. My 67 year old ears just do not like the brights/peaks all that much anymore. dbm If it sounds good, it is good !! http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=143231&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Are Vox AC30s really 30W RMS these days? I somehow got the impression they were nearer 60W. G. There's a switch on the back for "vintage" and "modern" and one for "warm" and "hot." One of them supposedly cuts it to 22 watts and the other makes it 33 watts, but my amp guy says it's probably more like 40 watts vs. 60 watts when all is said and done. Likewise, he says a Deluxe Reverb is probably putting out close to 40 watts cranked rather than 22 watts. Current Vox AC-30s get 40 to 60 watts out of four EL84s? Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 FWIW, I ran this by Myles, and he said... "Vox (AC30, w/ 4 EL84's) is about 35 watts or so and Deluxe Reverb (w/ 2x6V6's) is about 28-30 but just measure them as they are all different due to wall voltages, transformers, etc." Now, I can see that increasing the volume/gain on the front-end would make what gets amplified by the output-section all the louder; but a quartet of EL84's will not handle or put out the kind of wattage that EL34's or 6L6's will. I mean, a duet of 6L6s are really pushed to their limits to put out a stated nominal 60 watts in the Fender Vibro King, for example. Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman3441 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Again, my brain is fried by you guys... lol We cannot accelerate the growth of a tree by pulling on its branches. - Ricardo Iznaola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEHpicker Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Wow! Just checked out the Egnator Rebel 30. (There is also a Rebel 20) It has variable wattage control From 1w to 30w On Each Channel. AND you can mix the 6V6s or the EL84s to taste. How cool is that? I think I might have to head over to GC for a test drive. SEHpicker SEHpicker The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 That Egnater line of moderately priced tube amps- designed by Bruce Egnater in the US, and made in China, IIRC?- seem to be a great bunch of amps. I know of one or two online acquaintances/friends who have some, and love 'em. And I know a guy with an early '60s "brown" Fender Pro Amp 1x15 combo that Bruce Egnater did some electrical repair/restoration on, he gave it a very thorough going-over; he did a real top-notch job of it, and that's the guy's main gigging amp now. Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 I run my 60 watt De'ville on 4 using two 6L6's...and use my volume control on the guitar to dial in where I want to be...I can play nice and soft or cut through the mix as necessary...but it is overkill for most venues and 30 watts would do just fine...I can get the overdrive sound by dialing the drive way up and the master volume way down, but most of the time I'm Mr. Clean...now I leave the amp home and go direct to the mixer using the tech21 Blonde... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strategery Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Cool little amp find there DBM! Yeah, I've had an Egnater Rebel 20 for a while now and love it. It really does have a lot of power for what it is and capable of dialing in a lot of cool sounds. Randy "Just play!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbluesman Posted February 20, 2010 Author Share Posted February 20, 2010 Where you been Randy? dbm If it sounds good, it is good !! http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=143231&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strategery Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 I must admit...at another forum. ;-) I'm still around though. How you been doing? The wife and I took a trip out to Napa Valley back in early January and had a great time. See ya' soon. Randy "Just play!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbluesman Posted February 20, 2010 Author Share Posted February 20, 2010 The wife and I took a trip out to Napa Valley back in early January and had a great time. The wifey and I went through there in Early February. We have family just above Napa Valley near Clear Lake. We visited my sister in San Fransisco, she stopped there for 3 days, and we met her there and then we rented a car after they left and went on up to Clear Lake area for another 3 days. I miss this desert every time I go somewhere cold and rainy. But we had a great time up there. dbm If it sounds good, it is good !! http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=143231&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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