Markyboard Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 A little pre-playoffs porno while you're waiting. Go Jets! http://members.cox.net/mwolinsky/Keyboard%20Pics/OBE1.JPG http://members.cox.net/mwolinsky/Keyboard%20Pics/OBE2.JPG http://members.cox.net/mwolinsky/Keyboard%20Pics/OBIGER1.JPG http://members.cox.net/mwolinsky/Keyboard%20Pics/OBERGER2.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I feel dirty. Stuff and things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABECK Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Wow - she's a beauty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Looks sweet, Mark ! Now you'll have to post some recordings using the SEM... 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanS Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 So what's it do besides 'bleet, blort, beeble, durp'? What we record in life, echoes in eternity. Montage M7, MOXF8, Electro 6D, XK1c, Motif XS Rack, PolyEvolver, Voyager, Cobalt 8X, Univox MiniKorg. https://www.abandoned-film.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Wow. Is that two CP251s? Mark how are you routing control signals in that setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyMary Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I sure hope you've got theft insurance cause I'm coming over. Stage: MOX6, V-machine, and Roland AX7 Rolls PM351 for IEMs. Home/recording: Roland FP4, a few guitars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyboard Posted January 25, 2010 Author Share Posted January 25, 2010 Thanks everyone - except maybe you bloodyM Is that two CP251s? Mark how are you routing control signals in that setup? Actually a CP251 and a VX-351 which is the control interface that brings out all the control signals of the Voyager. This is a great way to control the SEM using the Voyager's velocity, aftertouch, wheels, pedals and the XY pad along with the envelopes, lfo etc. And since the Voyager has midi I can also control everything on it and therefore the SEM through any other keyboard in my set up. So what's it do besides 'bleet, blort, beeble, durp'? Pretty much what any mono keyboard does; leads, bass, drones, and yes sound effects although I usually gravitate toward melodic type exploration. The patching allows controlling or injecting the parameters from another source (my Voyager in this case). So using the Voyager's envelopes, lfos to modulate the SEM filter and amp for example is really cool. It was the "real" Oberheim sound I wanted and I think I finally have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzzz Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 It was the "real" Oberheim sound I wanted and I think I finally have it. Now you only need seven more....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahZark Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Marky: A very nice addition to what can only be described as The Coolest Basement Ever. Noah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I've heard great things about the new SEM. Sweet, dude! Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyboard Posted January 27, 2010 Author Share Posted January 27, 2010 Thanks again guys. Not trying to sell anyone on this thing but Holy Sh*t! - this little thing sounds amazing. I never owned or paid attention to the original SEM as I was always interested in the polys - OB8, Matrix 12 (never tried an OB-X/OB-SX) . I was eyeing the OB8s on ebay for a while until I got to play Paolo's a couple of summers ago and felt the A6 covered it pretty well. Perhaps similar to the often expressed criticism on Memorymoog vise Mini it just wasn't "the sound" Anyway this SEM is what I hear when I think Oberheim and does it for me. Yup - 7 more would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzzz Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I kinda wonder why Oberheim didn't do this sooner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Marky: A very nice addition to what can only be described as The Coolest Basement Ever. Noah +1 If I hit a mid-life crisis, I'm hoping it will be a major KB GAS flare up. I'm too big for a Corvette. PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucktronix Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 How I would love to hear the leads in that puppy Kronos 88 Platinum, Yamaha YC88, Subsequent 37, Korg CX3, Hydrasynth 49-key, Nord Electro 5D 73, QSC K8.2, Lester K Me & The Boyz Chris Beard Band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahZark Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Anyway this SEM is what I hear when I think Oberheim..... Maybe it's only me, but when I think "Oberheim," all I can hear is "Jump." Someone care to help me expand my knowledge of well-known Oberheim recordings? Noah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABECK Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I was eyeing the OB8s on ebay for a while until I got to play Paolo's a couple of summers ago and felt the A6 covered it pretty well. The ebay prices for OB8 &OBXa seem to have gone through the roof in the last couple of years. It's not uncommon to see listings upwards of $3000 (not too long ago, they seemed to be hovering at half that.) And forget about the Matrix 12...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Someone care to help me expand my knowledge of well-known Oberheim recordings? Noah Listen to Pat Metheny Group w/ Lyle Mays p.ex. A.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Maybe it's only me, but when I think "Oberheim," all I can hear is "Jump." Someone care to help me expand my knowledge of well-known Oberheim recordings? Here's one you might know: [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7DFsBcVMDA Some others... Prince - 1999 Japan - Gentlemen Take Polaroids, Tin Drum (OBX) You can go here to hear some examples of the OB-X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Zeger Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Someone care to help me expand my knowledge of well-known Oberheim recordings? On Weather Report "Birdland", the "sax section" behind Wayne Shorter's melody is an Oberheim SEM 4 Voice. It's also on "Black Market". Everyone has that 1 synth you want above all others. For me, it's a 4 voice. Yup - 7 more would be nice. Yes, it would. http://www.synthtopia.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/oberheim-synthesizer.jpg Greatest synth I ever played (not this one but another 2 manual 8 voice). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Someone care to help me expand my knowledge of well-known Oberheim recordings? http://www.synthtopia.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/oberheim-synthesizer.jpg Greatest synth I ever played (not this one but another 2 manual 8 voice). I recall reading that this was the synth used on "Tragedy", by the Bee Gees. 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 I recall reading that this was the synth used on "Tragedy", by the Bee Gees. I remember seeing this video back in the day ... and here it is on the internet. Magic! Blue Weaver with with a monstrous 8 voice in the studio. Nice guy who played a pivotal role in the brothers' use of synth bass and adoption of R&B idioms especially on the "Main Course" album. http://espanol.video.yahoo.com/watch/507853/2671192 That's a big sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyboard Posted January 28, 2010 Author Share Posted January 28, 2010 I was going to mention Joe Zawinul as well. He does that rubbery solo thing on an old Oberheim that just melts like butter but I can't recall what song it was on. I think Carlo provided a link at one time although I may be mistaken. Last night rather than post a response I decided to see how close I could program the Voyager and SEM to sound the same and then describe the difference. Note I don't usually do this other than when I first get a new synth as a learning experience. I had the Oberheim doing a mid to lower octave clean lead type sound, both oscilator freq. set up the same, very slightly detuned and a bit of PW modulation for thickening. Slow attack (but still playable for 16th notes) and sustaining. I closed the filter way down so just a slight hint of "sweeping breathy buzz" could be heard with minimal quackiness from the resonance. (I should be a writer) Set up the Voyager as close to this as possible and it just had that much further down bass range thing happeing. The filter characteristic was not the same until I switched to the 2 pole filter which let me get it much closer. But cutting to the chase this is a Voyager, not a Mini and so the big difference is more about the cleaner Voyager sound and lack of that poofy pillowy characteristic from the mini that the SEM also has. If the mini had a 12dB(2pole) filter I think it could sound very close to the SEM. OK I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Mark, I dig your writing! Some more Obie-spotting: Lyle using a 4-voice for a pad at .44 and 1.00 then a single horn note at 6.52 (but what a horn) ... (IIRC the signature high pitched detuned pulse leads were originally Obie ... dunno what he's using here) [video:youtube]FFPzDguv9gM Joe using a 4-Voice to turn Wayne into a horn section (Arp 2600 doubles Jaco ... also the original source of the wormy lead on Black Market) ... [video:youtube]wDQlSSOXU6A I hate watching stuff like this, especially Teentown ... because it makes me want to give up playing, and just get a stereo instead ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Force Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Two of my most favorite bands and most favorite tunes ever. Thanks for the post! Steve Force, Durham, North Carolina -------- My Professional Websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Last night rather than post a response I decided to see how close I could program the Voyager and SEM to sound the same and then describe the difference. Note I don't usually do this other than when I first get a new synth as a learning experience. I had the Oberheim doing a mid to lower octave clean lead type sound, both oscilator freq. set up the same, very slightly detuned and a bit of PW modulation for thickening. Slow attack (but still playable for 16th notes) and sustaining. I closed the filter way down so just a slight hint of "sweeping breathy buzz" could be heard with minimal quackiness from the resonance. (I should be a writer) Set up the Voyager as close to this as possible and it just had that much further down bass range thing happeing. The filter characteristic was not the same until I switched to the 2 pole filter which let me get it much closer. But cutting to the chase this is a Voyager, not a Mini and so the big difference is more about the cleaner Voyager sound and lack of that poofy pillowy characteristic from the mini that the SEM also has. If the mini had a 12dB(2pole) filter I think it could sound very close to the SEM. OK I'm done. Mark - Ok, stop teasing us then ;-). I want to hear what you just described. Would you post an audio file of these awesome analog experiments ? Thanks a bunch ... 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyboard Posted January 28, 2010 Author Share Posted January 28, 2010 Would you post an audio file of these awesome analog experiments ? Thanks a bunch ... Ok - time to come out of the closet. My name is Mark and I'm an audio file posting virgin. Let me see if I can figure this out over the weekend. May still take me a week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogut Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Thats quite a cantilever on the keys in the top tier. Looks weird! http://www.synthtopia.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/oberheim-synthesizer.jpg -Greg Motif XS8, MOXF8, Hammond XK1c, Vent Rhodes Mark II 88 suitcase, Yamaha P255 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Zeger Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Thats quite a cantilever on the keys in the top tier. Looks weird! True. It was nearly 30 years ago that I tried one and I can't possibly remember if that overhang was there or not. I wonder if the upper keyboard should have been placed where that blank panel is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Di Nicolantonio Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Whoa! Nice catch, Mark! Wasn't Tom Oberheim himself quoted by saying something along the lines of "the OB-8 was too perfect" (thus without "that" - perhaps cruder - but fantastically analog sound of its predecessors?) I think there's still a big difference between OB-X and Xa - and OB-8... the OB-8 is definitely more gentle-sounding to my ears.... If it makes any sense Well - congrats again and YES! post some demos of the magical white box SynthMania.com SynthMania YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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