Mark Schmieder Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I just got home a few hours ago from a long, gruelling, drive from South San Jose, where I picked up my new Hammond XK-1! It was a long debate about whether I needed the extra flexibility of the XK-3c and the associated system, but after downloading the XK-1 manual, I realised it is enough for my purposes. And if I outgrow it later, I'll simply trade up. :-) I normally wouldn't post a new topic about this, but it seems to be a Keyboard Corner tradition to announce when you have joined the Hammond Club. ;-) Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmp Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Congratulations! If you've really got the bug, you'll be joining the Leslie club soon. --wmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 Well, my friend who sold me the XK-1 (only used it once -- he has a real B3 and intended this for gigs, but his band broke up), had me play it through his modern digital leslie system, and my jaw dropped to the floor! I am not an organist though, so can't justify the extra cost (he is also selling his leslie system -- times are hard and he has a mortgage to meet). I play organ in lots of songs, but for fills, solos, etc. -- not as the featured instrument. I am primarily a bassist and/or synthesist at gigs. So I doubt I would ever need a second manual or a leslie system. Maybe a Ventilator though. :-) Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicaL Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Congratulations Mark! Maybe a Ventilator though. :-) Fer sure!! Get one! aL Gear: Yamaha MODX8, Mojo 61, NS2 73, C. Bechstein baby grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Congratulation, welcome to the club Custom handmade clocks: www.etsy.com/shop/ClockLight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keen Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I've got an XK-1 as well, and I actually had a chance to compare a real Leslie 122 with the XK-1's simulator last month over two different gigs with one of my bands. It wasn't really a scientific test, but I was inclined to believe the results nonetheless. For a little context, this is a rock band with just a few exposed hammond parts; the organ usually supplements the band instead of leading it. We had these two gigs a couple weeks apart in different venues but with the same sound guy. I played through the 122 and a sturdy preamp for the first show and through a bedraggled 1980's Fender keyboard amp for the second. The 122 was borrowed, the Fender amp is mine. After the first show I got lots of positive feedback about the Leslie. "Sounded awesome!" and whatnot. After the second show, three of the four people I talked to said the Leslie sounded great again (audience members who were at the first show as well). I told them it was actually the the simulator in my XK-1. They were shocked and swore they could hear the real Leslie. The fourth guy was the 122 owner from the first show- he couldn't be fooled but said the sound was indistinguishable! Lastly, the Hammond player from one of the other bands that night (who played an old CX-3) pointed to the XK-1 and said "I've got to get one of those!" Based on this entirely non-scientific data, I'm glad I haven't forked over the cash and sacrificed my back for a real Leslie. If I start playing in an organ trio or something more exposed I might reconsider. As long as the rest of the band is covering up that insignificant difference in sound between the sim and real thing, and as long as audience members and Leslie owners can't tell the difference, I'm happy with the XK-1's digital Leslie. Just thought I'd share that anecdote. Oh, and congrats! Keen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwhite9 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 You'll understand when you sit to play organ on workstation or Nord and your left hand instinctevly reaches out for the drawbars and without them you feel naked and the whole experience is just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcS Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Welcome to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcS Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 And to you as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 So I doubt I would ever need a second manual or a leslie system. Heh. Spoken like an addict who doesn't know he is addicted yet. Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyMoe Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Welcome to the club!!!!!!They are awesome! Montage 7, Mojo 61, PC-3, XK-3c Pro, Kronos 88, Hammond SK-1, Motif XF- 7, Hammond SK-2, Roland FR-1, FR-18, Hammond B3 - Blond, Hammond BV -Cherry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Loving Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 welcome to the light! "Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcS Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 So I doubt I would ever need a second manual or a leslie system. Heh. Spoken like an addict who doesn't know he is addicted yet. The XK-1 was intended to be the gateway drug into the XK-3/c/System. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_3guy Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Way to go!!! Steve www.seagullphotodesign.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrokeys Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 "Luke, you have just taken your first step into a larger world." Of course, the next step is a vintage A, B, or C with leslie naturally.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I only have a collection of these - http://www.antiqueclockspriceguide.com/priceguideimages/industria/C033.jpg -Mike Martin Casio Mike Martin Photography Instagram Facebook The Big Picture Photography Forum on Music Player Network The opinions I post here are my own and do not represent the company I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3_borne Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Welcome to the club ... and enjoy SK2 /w Mini Vent / XK3 Pro System /w 142 Leslie, Roland D70, Korg SP250 B3 1959 (retired) , Porta B (retired), XB2 (retired) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonysounds Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Congratulations! If you've really got the bug, you'll be joining the Leslie club soon. And I know where you can get a killer Speakeasy RocBox with AMA for a bargain! Hitting "Play" does NOT constitute live performance. -Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Word! XK1 is a sweet little beast. Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhodaway10 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Welcome to the club! You're going to love playing with it. BTW, did you get it from a guy named John? www.brianho.net http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/brianho www.youtube.com/brianhojazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 Yep, so you know him? Not surprising. Everyone knows each other in the SF Bay Area. Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhodaway10 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Yeah I know him. He was one of the only people I knew that had a leslie 21 system and I went to his house to try it out. I believe I played his/your xk1 through it! lol Did you get a chance to play his xk3? www.brianho.net http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/brianho www.youtube.com/brianhojazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 Nah, just the XK1. He said the XK3 wasn't much different from the XK2, which I didn't realise. I think they mostly continued on improving the effects, distortion, and leslie simulation. Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhodaway10 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 There is a bigger difference between the Xk1 and XK3c especially regarding the sim and midi capabilities. I would join the Hammond XK3 yahoo group. Lots of information there that will help you. www.brianho.net http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/brianho www.youtube.com/brianhojazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcS Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 The XK-1 has the same sound engine as the XK-3 minus the extra hardware and some programing features. The XK-3 has the sound engine that was developed for the New B3. Light years from the XK-2. The sound engine in the XK-3c is newer/more advanced/more powerful than the one in the XK-3 etc. and the sound engine in the New B3 MkII is based on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meisenhower Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Welcome to the fold! It's a slippery slope from here and I'm sure one day you'll be writing about scoring that console alphabet (B, C, A, RT or D) Hammond and leslie for a song!! Enjoy the XK-1 Yamaha C7 Grand, My Hammonds: '57 B3, '54 C2, '42 BC, '40 D, '05 XK3 Pro System, Kawai MP9000, Fender Rhodes Mk I 73, Yamaha CP33, Motif ES6, Nord Electro 2, Minimoog Voyager & Model D, Korg MS10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Congrats! More power to the Hammond users! "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdman Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 I just got home a few hours ago from a long, gruelling, drive from South San Jose, I see - so you must live in Santa Clara. Actually the traffic there is usually much better during a recession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 Hah, that's funny! It was working in Santa Clara while living in Emeryville that drove me out of the computer industry. Often the final two hours of the three hour commute would be the last few miles from Milpitas to Santa Clara. Even on a good day, I was lucky if it took under 90 minutes to traverse the 42 miles. I have my back to the XK-1 as I write this. I was going to start recording with it this weekend, but ended up having a flash of inspiration yesterday for a deadline-dictated piece for the comedy show I am supporting, so whipped that one out (no organ; all orchestral instruments). I'm hoping to put it through its paces by this evening. Just trying to decide whether to record it in mono or stereo! Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 Well, I feel pretty stupid now, as I downloaded the manual in advance but didn't read the MIDI chapter since I had already taken note that there are two MIDI input connectors on the back. Somehow, it didn't occur to me that these are strictly for hooking up Hammond pedals and a second manual, and not for MIDI playback. This means I'll need to play any parts over again from scratch, rather than simply re-tracking legacy material via MIDI to the XK-1. I guess that's better anyway, since I'll probably phrase differently than I did no whatever faux organ posers I was using before. It's still a big surprise to me though, that they didn't implement standard MIDI In on this keyboard. Now I'm curious to download the XK-3c manual to see if it too is missing this functionality. Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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