d halfnote Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Sometimes the value of birthdays is not for the individual but for those who benefitted from their presence. Here's a little BDay celebration of a great jazz bassist. Favors at work/play stately & beautiful music you must hear (solo @ 4:50...can you spot the Woody Woddpecker quote at 5:35 ?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uUFtBcgaWo&feature=PlayList&p=BF09E6FC8CB5BE30&index=18 a bit more exploratory 4 minute bass improv http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgGGA5SX94U&feature=PlayList&p=BF09E6FC8CB5BE30&index=12 3 ostinatos you oughta http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJr8wE0r6vk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=perVFDDy_xg arco bass'n'drums bios http://www.artensembleofchicago.com/malachi.html http://www.allaboutjazz.com/malachifavors http://destination-out.com/?p=103 (read about the citation from Chicago's mayor) http://www.nndb.com/people/512/000042386/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malachi_Favors http://www.onefinalnote.com/features/2004/favors/ AEC documentary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rBLfcj7sYs&feature=PlayList&p=BF09E6FC8CB5BE30&index=0&playnext=1 a conversation w/MFM http://www.jazzweekly.com/interviews/favors.htm out X far (1) Favors brings things into focus @ 5:45 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucDDPJ0cahY (2)catch the "Tibetan" bass entry @ 7:13 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmYks6dLVgM&feature=PlayList&p=BF09E6FC8CB5BE30&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=5 AEC takes Dixieland to Africa, twice more humor than bass content but worth the trip discography http://www.discogs.com/artist/Malachi+Favors d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngoldsby Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Wow, d! Great post. Thanks for all the links about Malachi. One of the great heroes of the instrument. www.goldsby.de Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil W Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Nice. I'll look forward to checking out these links when I get to a computer. Thanks http://philwbass.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted August 28, 2009 Author Share Posted August 28, 2009 Is that really all the response ? d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil W Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 That's what tends to happen here sometimes when you post links to music that's not run of the mill, however beautiful and life-affirming the music. http://philwbass.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil W Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 The thread has been viewed 63 times though so you have to hope some of those people checked out the music. http://philwbass.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 That's what tends to happen here sometimes when you post links to music that's not run of the mill, however beautiful and life-affirming the music. No, I think it's rather that this is what happens when people feel overwhelmed by what appears to be a full printed page of nothing but links. That's something that you sometimes do as well, Phil. Honestly, I probably have enough time to go through all of it but it seems so daunting when I first see it that I cringe and go to the next thread. Bite-sized, digestible morsels that stay within our limited attention spans. That's what the public needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted August 28, 2009 Author Share Posted August 28, 2009 Bite-sized, digestible morsels that stay within our limited attention spans. That's what the public needs. Thanks for the tip! Seriously, I see your point in a way, though I thought I'd headlined the material well &, well, is clicking a link really such effort ?. Considering Favors's, uh, I guess obscurity is the functional word, I meant for his playing to speak for itself rather than offer an effusive blurb. I suppose I shoulda left it on page 2...still I wonder that Favors at work/play stately & beautiful music (solo @ 4:50...can you spot the Woody Woodpecker quote at 5:35 ?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uUFtBcgaWo&feature=PlayList&p=BF09E6FC8CB5BE30&index=18 didn't pull in more comments. d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 The thread has been viewed 63 times though so you have to hope some of those people checked out the music. Interesting, PW, but one wonders why, if at all impressed, they didn't comment... Actually I think I've learned why most musicians have such a hard time promoting themselves. If other musicians, in the same narrow realm instrumentally can't be bothered to check out the music of another in the same field, how could we ever expect the general public to do so ? Is clicking a link, as Davio suggests, so hard ? d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Clicking = easy. Deciding to watch countless videos of something you don't know anything about = hard. Try posting one or two and see if anybody bites. If there's a positive reaction, either let people follow their own curiosity or post one or two more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 I dunno, that's like fishing by using only one worm a day. What makes you think anyone has to look at any more links than they chose at any one time ? Comprehensive overview w/multiple examples = bad; extravagant rave w/ one clip =better ? d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 If it had said "He was the bass player in Art Ensemble of Chicago", I would have been more likely to listen the first time I saw this thread. You can actually put the youtube video directly in the post with the full reply screen and then we can see something like that. (a picture is worth a thousand cliches or something like that). I know the AEC is great, but I've never really been able to get into what it is that they do. Unfortunately that didn't change today. Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 I dunno, that's like fishing by using only one worm a day. What makes you think anyone has to look at any more links than they chose at any one time ? Comprehensive overview w/multiple examples = bad; extravagant rave w/ one clip =better ? You're arguing semantics. I'm arguing results. See the other thread. I'm in favor of consolidating this discussion into the other thread and letting people comment on the bass player here if they want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcr Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Suppose a student walked into my office and says, "I'd like to know more about Socrates." And I send him away with a Comprehensive Overview of the literature on Socrates. Chances are he won't come back. Well, I walk into a thread, and with no setup as to why I should be interested or what I should expect (except that he's a "jazz bassist"; well, there are lots of those, aren't there, and I'm not going to hear them all), I get no fewer than 18 links I'm supposed to follow. It's not that I can't follow that many links, it's that I'm busy. I'd need to be already pretty into whatever this is to even get started. I therefore guess that probably this is really meant for insiders who already know what on earth this is even about, and not for me. So I move on. Life's short. By the way, what's happened is that your thread didn't get a lot of responses. That's it. Move on already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil W Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 I think also there's an issue that videos posted tend not to elicit much comment. It's not like you started with a question for people to debate d and whenever great stuff has been posted in the youtube thread, people here have generally just watched it rather than commented. That said, if you'd posted a page full of Van Halen videos you'd have gotten a lot more response. That's just the nature of things. A forum is a good place to learn about new things though and I've certainly never been put off by being given too much info to choose from - that's the very nature of the internet - information overload and one must pick and choose the bits one wants to access at that time. http://philwbass.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted September 3, 2009 Author Share Posted September 3, 2009 Well, I walk into a thread, and with no setup as to why I should be interested or what I should expect (except that he's a "jazz bassist"; well, there are lots of those, aren't there, and I'm not going to hear them all), I get no fewer than 18 links I'm supposed to follow. It's not that I can't follow that many links, it's that I'm busy. I'd need to be already pretty into whatever this is to even get started. Still bewildered by the idea that b/c there's a lot of info made available it carries that all of it must be followed, at once or at all. d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Still bewildered by the idea that b/c there's a lot of info made available it carries that all of it must be followed, at once or at all. That's just it...it wasn't followed at all but you started by asking why it wasn't followed. It was explained by several people exactly why they didn't follow it and now you're bewildered. Now you're going in circles. When there's an information overload with no blatantly obvious reason for somebody to be interested...they typically just skip it and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted September 3, 2009 Author Share Posted September 3, 2009 The repeated statement is "I had no time to look at them all". That idea, not that some weren't interested in the music, is the odd thing to me. I get the feeling that you & I are talking passed each other, Davio, rather than communicating. d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 The repeated statement is "I had no time to look at them all". That idea, not that some weren't interested in the music, is the odd thing to me. I get the feeling that you & I are talking passed each other, Davio, rather than communicating. I seem do that a lot. I think the statement is somewhat misstated, though. I have a feeling that "I didn't have time" is just a fall-back for most people because they use it so much throughout a normal day and because they don't want to risk offense with "I didn't see the value in committing what time I had to your subject. " (which I think is the heart of the matter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcr Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 OK, you've had your whinge. Then you've had another. Can we please let this go now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Capasso Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 So - to the music. I watched/listened to the first video. I'm not a jazz guy, and the only reason I got through most of it was to hear the solo. The bass solo was very nice, and I enjoyed it. I just don't "get it" beyond that. I'm sure I could put up a link to some old rock that means a lot to me (and not much of anyone else). And that's fine. For what it's worth, I've been listening to Shona Laing's "Glad I'm Not A Kennedy" since Ted passed away - interesting keyboard bass part, respectful lyrics. I don't expect folks to love it just cause I do (and d - I know you don't expect everyone to love Favors either - just saying). Tom www.stoneflyrocks.com Acoustic Color Be practical as well as generous in your ideals. Keep your eyes on the stars and keep your feet on the ground. - Theodore Roosevelt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 For what it's worth, I've been listening to Shona Laing's "Glad I'm Not A Kennedy" since Ted passed away... It's funny you should say that. My room mates and I went to a bar trivia night a few days ago and wisely decided against using the team name "Dead Kennedys." One of the bonus rounds was a bunch of Ted Kennedy trivia...we didn't even know 1/2 of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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