ProfD Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 What about for the organ crowd? The Sermon or Back At The Chicken Shack perhaps? Great call. Jimmy Smith made the world hip to jazz organ with those compositions. PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrokeys Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 +1. I'm not sure if it is the composition or the overall "sound" that makes the Jimmy Smith catalog as influential as it is. For sure, "Chicken Shack" on piano doesn't have the same impact as it does on the B3, yet Smith did real justice to standards all through his career. Many of these entered the public ear as piano tunes first before he got them. If I had to pick a Smith tune that was really influential for me, at least, it would be "The Cat." The use of the organ within the big band setting on that tune sure legitimized organ as a jazz instrument for me and after hearing his version of the blues standard "I Got My Mojo Workin'" I knew that for me, piano would be a secondary interest from then on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrokeys Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Just to prove how strongly a player can be identified with a tune....I went to give the "Cat" a listen for old times sake and discovered it was written by Lalo Schifrin. Oooops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADino Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Talking about the organ crowd...anyone hip to Winston Walls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 Off the top of my head for me it'd be things like Begin the Beguine/Yesterdays by God himself, It's a mark of his influence that no one has had to ask who Kayvon is referring to! Yesterdays is by Jerome Kern isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayvon Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Yes, i'm not sure if Tatum wrote many/any tunes. Tatum Pole Boogie perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrokeys Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Winston Walls used to play regularly and lived from time to time in my former hometown of Lexington, KY. Despite his imposing appearance he was, at heart, a truly nice guy and a great organist. The most intimidated I ever got was when I was playing a small club and Winston was working just across the street. I was about 22 at the time. He stopped in during a break and sat right down front. I thought court was definitely in session. As I say, once you got to know him however, he was a good man to know and generous with advice. "The Master of the B3" for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Good insights on here. Skip this post if you want to protect your sanity. Yeah, Wayne Shorter has a wealth of great compositions. I didn't mention Wayne tunes like I didn't first mention "Giant Steps" - I was trying to narrow the field to universal influence - or jazz that influenced public listening and propelled it beyond musician circles. And I was going with Tusker's suggestion - actual jazz compositions, not tunes that later became jazz standards. Add to that list, lots of Fats Waller tunes like "Jitterbug Waltz", all Charlie Parker and Bud Powell tunes introducing bebop, like Bird's all important album/tune "Now's The Time". If you include innovative jazz writing and composition, the list is a lot longer: Richie Powell's clever writing for the Clifford Brown recordings, etc., Gunther Schuller, George Russell, Vince Mendoza, on and on. If we're talking influential jazz recordings, not just compositions themselves, then Louis Armstrong's early recordings, Billy Holiday's "God Bless The Child" as her singing influenced generations of singers, Frank Sinatra's "I've Got You Under My Skin" for the exact same reason, and Jimmy Giuffre's and Jimmy Rainey's improvised "Thesis" for the first "free jazz" recording. For instrument specific music like harmonica and organ (honorable mentions on organ: Don Patterson and Larry Young) include Alice Coltrane for harp, Bela Fleck for banjo, and throw in Rufus Harley for the first jazz bagpipe recordings. What about guys who pushed the envelope of their instruments like Roland Kirk, Cecil Taylor, or Eric Dolphy? We're still left with an endless list of players who heavily influenced others on their instruments, like Art Tatum, Bill Evans, Chick Corea for piano, Tal Farlow, Pat Martino and Joe Pass to John McLaughlin, Scofield or Bill Frisell for guitar, Ron Carter to Charlie Haden, bass, Gene Krupa to Tony Williams and Elvin Jones, drums, etc. Mind boggling list that's never complete, but fun to try. CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/stevekessler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferris Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 If it didn't derail the thread too much it'd be interesting to see which tunes are most influential to each particular persons jazz piano playing as well. Well since we covered most of the original thread I'll throw out my list here. Maybe my ail time favorite tune, one I've been playing close to 30 years. I never get tired of playing it...Clare Fischer's "Pensativa". I tend to play the same songs over and over, year after year........... Benny Golson: Whisper Not Along Came Betty Stablemates Billy Strayhorn: Isfahan Lush Life Upper Medical Manhattan Group (UMMG) Chelsea Bridge Bill Evans: Very Early Chick Corea: Windows Spain Crystal Silence Humpty Dumpty Tones for Jones Bones Herbie Hancock: Dolphin Dance Kenny Barron: Voyage Monk: I Mean You Bye-Ya Eronel Ask Me Now Reflections Trane: Giant steps Moments Notice Naima 26-2 Bessie's Blues Lazy Bird Cedar Walton: Boliva Tadd Dameron: Hot House Lady Bird Steve Swallow: Falling Grace Dizzy Gillespie: Con Alma Night In Tunsia Bud Powell: Bouncin' with Bud Celia Wayne Shorter: Fee-Fi-Fo-Fum Speak No Evil El Gaucho Black Nile Sam Rivers: Beatrice George Shearing: Conception Dave Brubeck: In Your Own Sweet Way Clifford Brown: Daahoud Joy Spring Bobby Hutcherson: Little B's Poem Miles Davis: Milestones (Original one with the changes, Bird played Tenor on it) Four Seven steps to Heaven (co author is Victor Feldman) Bird: Yardbird Suite Donna Lee Confirmation Scapple from the Apple Joe Henderson: Inner urge Recorda me I probably left some things out but that's all I can think of for right now. I'll add has I remember. A lot of the Jobim stuff too. Horace Silver: Nica's Dream Peace https://soundcloud.com/dave-ferris https://www.youtube.com/@daveferris2709 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucasb Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Dave you'd fit in real nice here in Philly playing all those tunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Talking about the organ crowd...anyone hip to Winston Walls? I knew Winston a little, got into a few "duels" with him on stage at this little club here in Indy where I used to play some Sunday nights. A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue JC Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 In my opinion, the most influential early 20th century jazz compositions that made a lot of later jazz compositions possible (with a little help from Bing Crosby) was probably the Louis Armstrong Hot Five and Seven records. Pops doesn't get enough credit in the jazz world but he opened a lot of doors. Everybody's got to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer. W. C. Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADino Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Talking about the organ crowd...anyone hip to Winston Walls? I knew Winston a little, got into a few "duels" with him on stage at this little club here in Indy where I used to play some Sunday nights. Winston dueled w/everyone..I started going to a cabaret when I was like 16...when Winston walked in, he would simply say your gig is over, my gig now....to anyone on the B..that included some pretty heavyweight cats...someone recently laid a cd on me of Winston n McGriff "dueling"...Winston was a bad cat...I grew up going to that cabaret, where I got to hear many famous cats, sit in..I dont mean grew up in age. When I did a few stints with Groove Holmnes, he knew where I was from..he would always ask me what Winston was doing...Sadly there arent many of the B cats left..1 still going strong over in Pittsburgh, my old friend Gene Ludwig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Chimuelo Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Goodbye Pork Pie Hat by T.Monk. I could ramble all night about others but it is my old favorite. http://forums.planetz.com/download/file.php?id=2969 Magnus C350 and a TV Dinner Tray Stand http://soundcloud.com/you/sets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz+ Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Songbird by Kenny G? Find 660 of my jazz piano arrangements of standards for educational purposes and tutorials at www.Patreon.com/HarryLikas Harry was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcD Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Songbird by Kenny G? *twitch* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moj Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Goodbye Pork Pie Hat by T.Monk. I could ramble all night about others but it is my old favorite. http://forums.planetz.com/download/file.php?id=2969 Charles Mingus composed Goodbye Pork Pie Hat as a tribute to Lester Young. BTW, that was a sublime recording, nice arrangement. What did you use for the Rhodes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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