Invis Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 I'm looking to purchase a first keyboard. I've been playing on my grand piano for about 8 years, and would like to expand to keyboard/synth, but i am virtually clueless on the topic some features i would like are -USB Recording? or anyway to record on my computer without having to buy expensive software, i have a Creative SoundBlaster Audigy soundcard, i bought this for gaming but i guess it could help with this. -Lots of Sounds, this is obviously obvious, but looking for sounds for harmonizing with various Melodic Death Metal and Symphonic Black Metal bands, ino its probably an unpopular genre in the keyboard forum (i'm assuming here) -Pitch Bend -50+ keys - I would need it to be loud enough to be heard over a metal drummer, i have Logitch z-5300's that are loud, and a peavey vypyr 75 watt guitar amp, it would need to be connected to either one, (is this possible?) i can always save up for a keyboard amp if necessary I really like the features offered by the Korg x50 and Roland Juno-d, my budget is probably around $700, I'm taking A.P. Music Theory class next year and will learn scale structures, so maybe an arpeggiator would be nice What are the advantages of a synth over an arranger? There's probably more i should mention but i can't think of anything off the top of my head, I'd appreciate expert help and not "Get the juno-d"
Synthoid Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 -USB Recording? or anyway to record on my computer without having to buy expensive software, i have a Creative SoundBlaster Audigy soundcard, You'll need to upgrade your soundcard... -Lots of Sounds, this is obviously obvious, but looking for sounds for harmonizing with various Melodic Death Metal and Symphonic Black Metal bands, ino its probably an unpopular genre in the keyboard forum (i'm assuming here) Both the Korg X50 and the Juno-D come with over 500 sounds onboard. -Pitch Bend Pretty much all synths have this feature. -50+ keys For live playing, I'd recommend a keyboard with 61 keys or more. - I would need it to be loud enough to be heard over a metal drummer, i have Logitch z-5300's that are loud, and a peavey vypyr 75 watt guitar amp, it would need to be connected to either one, (is this possible?) You can run your synth through the guitar amp to start out. I really like the features offered by the Korg x50 and Roland Juno-d, my budget is probably around $700, I'm taking A.P. Music Theory class next year and will learn scale structures, so maybe an arpeggiator would be nice I think for what you're looking for, the Korg X50 would work well. It offers lots of great sounds and has dual arpeggiators. I believe the Juno-D only has a single arpeggiator which is not as complex. Try them both out at your local music store if you can. What are the advantages of a synth over an arranger? You can program your own sounds from scratch with a synth. Arranger keyboards are often used by "one man bands" because they have preset drum and rhythm patterns, fills, intros, etc. for songs. When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray.
Synthoid Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Your welcome. When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray.
bloodyMary Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Welcome to the forum. Seems like I'm one of the few metal guys here, so I'll try to help. The Korg will do fantastic for you, except for the fact that it has a crap key action. Highly recommend finding a used Korg triton or karma. Will fit your price range well. Regarding the amplification - I don't think computer speakers will do well. You can, as said before, plug the keyboard into the guitar amp. It'll sound like crap, but will get you started, at least you'll be loud enough. For not a lot of money you can find a used active PA speaker, which will serve you well. Stage: MOX6, V-machine, and Roland AX7 Rolls PM351 for IEMs. Home/recording: Roland FP4, a few guitars
bloodyMary Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Don't worry about recording. $100 will get you a USB sound card with bundled software and it will work wonderfully. I use Lexicon, just because it's cheap. Stage: MOX6, V-machine, and Roland AX7 Rolls PM351 for IEMs. Home/recording: Roland FP4, a few guitars
Invis Posted September 21, 2008 Author Posted September 21, 2008 thanks for the help guys any specific triton models i should look for/avoid?
bloodyMary Posted September 21, 2008 Posted September 21, 2008 Depends on which features you're going to need. Korg karma can't sample. Triton LE can sample (with proper expansion installed) but has much less FX power. The best keyboard of the line would be Triton Extreme, followed by Triton Studio. Triton classic is ok too. Look for comparison table in Google. I wouldn't buy the LE model, anyway, unless it's really cheap and your budget is tight. Stage: MOX6, V-machine, and Roland AX7 Rolls PM351 for IEMs. Home/recording: Roland FP4, a few guitars
J. Dan Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 If you are sampling and/or Sequencing, I'd go with a newer model (like Extreme) that uses memory cards. I have a Triton Classic, which is great, but I have to save/load samples/sequences to/from either 3.5" floppy or a SCSI drive (I have an old Jaz Drive). As a result, I don't use it for this. I use my Fusion live for samples/sequences because it can pull them right off the hard drive on demand. But if the Triton worked that way, I would MUCH prefer it's sequencer/sampler. Dan Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth.
Dave Horne Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 I'm taking A.P. Music Theory class next year and will learn scale structures, so maybe an arpeggiator would be nice A.P Music Theory ... Applied Practical ...? Is that what they're calling it these days? While an arpeggiator might sound attractive to you as a feature, you'll impress the girls even more by actually playing those arpeggios in real time. Hell, piano players have been doing it for centuries - it ain't that difficult. edit - I see at Wiki that A.P. Music Theory stands for Advanced Placement Music Theory. No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments.
Outkaster Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 I know really. Take some time and learn the real thing. "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com
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