....... Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 I just got a line6 delay and have been having great fun playing with loops. Anyone else into this technique? Any tips to share? Here is a piece I did... http://www.divshare.com/download/5323692-b5d You can see me play it here... but the sound is better on the divshare link
Rocky McDougall Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Most excellant Beeboss. Rocky "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb, voting on what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb, contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin
EddiePlaysBass Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Very nice piece of music "I'm a work in progress." Micky Barnes The Ross Brown Shirt World Tour
Switch hitter Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 cool. Yeah I do alot of looping when I go solo for the local open mic I do often. Its a great practice tool as well as something to use when performing
Brocko777 Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Nice piece, looping is a great tool for practicing, and fun as well. Don't have a job you don't enjoy. If you're happy in what you're doing, you'll like yourself, you'll have inner peace. ~ Johnny Carson
Wally Malone Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 I got my looper around the time that the bass band, Bassed on Jazz was formed. It's a great way to learn jazz tunes by putting down a bass line, comp some chords and then work on the melodies and soloing over top the loops. Wally I have basses to play, places to be and good music to make!
1111000 Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 The article about Cachao inspired me to do something similar with one of his montunos. I was nowhere near as thorough as you though--your piece develops into something really cool. Great job! You've inspired me to go back to my old montuno idea. Maybe if I don't do a total slop job I'll post it to further the community enjoyment. By the way, what bass are you playing? It's a lovely fretless sound you're getting. Going through a DI/pre or just a sound card? Seriously, "Bass Inertia" is lovely. Props and then some! EDIT: Oh, sorry. Didn't watch the video at first. Of course I could have just watched it to figure out what sort of bass--so that's a Fender lined fretless I take it? Looks like you've done some modding? Either way the tone is delightful.
....... Posted September 8, 2008 Author Posted September 8, 2008 Thanks everyone for your kind comments. My bass is a squier fretless with no modifications, unless you include rubbing off the horrid sunburst to reveal the rather bad quality wood underneath, and disconnecting the pickup near the fingerboard, oh and I changed the jack for an xlr. I recorded this direct into the computer, no amp no preamp. Anyone else have any loops to share?
DavidMPires Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Phil W has lots of loops to share, I've done something in the past but I never manage to have more than a minute of music, I need to work on my composition, and if you are deep into looping check out Steve Lawson, he's the king of looped bass and now he has some even more interesting stuff with Lobelia, well worth a listen. http://www.stevelawson.net/ www.myspace.com/davidbassportugal "And then the magical unicorn will come prancing down the rainbow and we'll all join hands for a rousing chorus of Kumbaya." - by davio
1111000 Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 My bass is a squier fretless with no modifications, unless you include rubbing off the horrid sunburst to reveal the rather bad quality wood underneath, and disconnecting the pickup near the fingerboard, oh and I changed the jack for an xlr. I recorded this direct into the computer, no amp no preamp. That goes (once again) to show that A) it's the player, not the instrument, that matters and B) Squier definitely deserves more credibility than it usually gets. Seriously, that tone is first-class in my book. Oh and I like the XLR mod.
Phil W Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Great, very musical - like the way it builds. Steve Lawson is the guy to check out. He did a whole CD using the Line 6 DL4 once. As well as Michael Manring. I tend to use short loops playing with a band that I trigger (record and play) manually throughout the music to stop and start. I have the Line 6 too. You can hear my efforts on the link in my sig. Love the tone! I dig Eberhard's music too! I got to play with John Marshall once which was a major thrill thinking of his work with Eberhard. Check out: http://www.steve-lawson.co.uk/oldblog/blog_text5.htm http://www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson http://www.youtube.com/user/StevieSteve46 http://www.instituteofbass.com/lessons/michael_manring/loopers/ (Michael on practising with loopers) Steve is a regular on this board so no doubt he'll pop up sooner or later. Max Valentino does a fair amount of looping too. As far as tips: Use a variety of tones for the layers (e.g palm mute and thumb etc) Don't add more layers than necessary Keep the loops fairly short Use the stop/play/play once buttons to integrate the loops with the playing But rules are made to be broken I took ages to get used to starting and stopping the loops in tempo - but loops that don't start and stop exactly in the same place sound interesting. One problem was I was looping at home wearing socks :grin: and it wasn't making enough contact with the pedal. I definitely had to develop my foot chops. All the best! http://philwbass.com
DavidMPires Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 You guys just made me want to go home and play about with the looper www.myspace.com/davidbassportugal "And then the magical unicorn will come prancing down the rainbow and we'll all join hands for a rousing chorus of Kumbaya." - by davio
tucsonbassplayer Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Very Cool Beeboss, The looping thing has changed everything for us bass players. Almost no need to leave the house.....unless we need the money. http://tucsonbassplayer.blogspot.com
Phil W Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 As far as tips: Use a variety of tones for the layers (e.g palm mute and thumb etc) Don't add more layers than necessary Keep the loops fairly short Use the stop/play/play once buttons to integrate the loops with the playing But rules are made to be broken None of those apply to your piece though, I thought it worked very well. Just remembered to add the youtube to my favourites. Quick question: When people don't show their face on these Youtube videos is that because they want the camera to focus on their hands or because they are concerned about security? Just curious. Oh! I see you played with Theo Travis from your site (he's great). You probably know Steve. Lovely stuff on your website! http://philwbass.com
_Sweet Willie_ Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Mike Dimin does some really nice looping stuff on bass. Check his website and search for him on YouTube. His chordal method book for bass is also solid, and would be useful for someone exploring looping. Peace. --s-uu spreadluv Fanboy? Why, yes! Nordstrand Pickups and Guitars. Messiaen knew how to parlay the funk.
Mr. Bizarro Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 That's great. I think I want a looper now. You did an amazing job on that. Also, I have that bass (which I am very satisfied with, musically) and I've been thinking of stripping the finish. It's encouraging to see that somebody else has already had success with that. Here's a tip: Try to eat everything. You'd be surprised how much is edible.
....... Posted September 11, 2008 Author Posted September 11, 2008 Thanks for all your replies and the kind comments and tips. I hadn't heard of Michael Manring before and some of his stuff has blown my head right off. Amazing. Quick question: When people don't show their face on these Youtube videos is that because they want the camera to focus on their hands or because they are concerned about security? Just curious. I am not remotely concerned about security, I just can't see why anyone would want to see my ugly mug all through the video. It would be different if I could have a couple of camera angles probably.
Phil W Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Well, the bass is nice to look at! I think it is very human to connect with musicians' faces while they perform though, irrational maybe but it somehow feels more connected. Yes, Michael Manring is amazing. Let me know if you ever gig in London with one of your bands. http://philwbass.com
_Sweet Willie_ Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Nicely done, Beeboss! Finally watched the YouTube clip. Peace. --s-uu spreadluv Fanboy? Why, yes! Nordstrand Pickups and Guitars. Messiaen knew how to parlay the funk.
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