Malmsteen is a dweeb.

[Frank Church]

The guy plays a thousand miles a minute, but for what? The guy has no soul, no heart and his music is years behind the times. Poofer is he.

[Guitarzan]

not returning your calls either, huh? he never calls me back.

seriously though i dig some of his stuff but i could not listen to him all day that is for sure.

he needs to pace himself and stop ripping every second.

i don't have that problem

ripping every second that is

 

[-Will-]

I've not heard any of his latest material but back in the 80's his stuff was ground breaking, so put in context of the 80's shred movement, he was a major player/innovator.

[Caevan O'Shite]

He did some good for our cause, but he's his own worst enemy with the attitude and all!

[Jode]

Favorite Yngwie quote:

 

"I know all the music theory there is to know, basically."

 

He still ain't as good as Jerry Reed.

[GuitarPlayerFL]

Hmmm...another shred vs feel thread.

 

[Note to self...buy more snacks and pull up a chair to watch more Jerry Springer confrontations upcoming in this thread]

[Caevan O'Shite]

Hmmm...another shred vs feel thread.

 

[Note to self...buy more snacks and pull up a chair to watch more Jerry Springer confrontations upcoming in this thread]

 

Naaa, it's his attitude and BS.

 

He publicly put down Steve Morse (as well as other known, great players). Steve Morse is not only a fantastic player who can shred with the best of 'em, he's about as positive and friendly as can be, typically coming off as humble and benevolent in the press. Hmmmnn, what impressions am I gonna come away with from these two?

 

I used to know this girl who was a guitarist and a HUGE Yngwie fan. She came back from her first ever Yngwie-show severely disappointed by his attitude and rudeness to everyone (directed towards bandmates, sound-guy, and club, over the mic). He aparently started late and acted like he was a little kid throwing a tantrum and the whole world was at fault and going to pay for it. I felt sorry for her, she was so let down by him!

 

For comparison, find one negative word anywhere concerning or said by Steve Morse EVER.

 

As for "shred vs feel", it should be "good shred and good feel vs crappy shred and crappy feel".

 

I'll cap this off by stating that none of this, my post included, is even a little important at all. So there.

[MILLO]

not returning your calls either, huh? he never calls me back.

You too?!!! Never recognize our child together, did he. Hit-and-runner is he. Type like Yoda I, do.

 

Just kidding. No, he's not a dweeb. He is weedily-blooobeeliblooobily-wooo-eee-bloo-eeelee-uuhbloob-dweeb.

[MILLO]

Favorite Yngwie quote:

 

"I know all the music theory there is to know, basically."

hahahahaaaaaaa.... such a knuckle-head. He certainly doesn't SHOW he knows all there is to know about it in his simplistic overplaying.

[Billster]

Hmmm...another shred vs feel thread.

 

[Note to self...buy more snacks and pull up a chair to watch more Jerry Springer confrontations upcoming in this thread]

 

Naaa, it's his attitude and BS.

 

He publicly put down Steve Morse (as well as other known, great players). Steve Morse is not only a fantastic player who can shred with the best of 'em, he's about as positive and friendly as can be, typically coming off as humble and benevolent in the press. Hmmmnn, what impressions am I gonna come away with from these two?

 

I used to know this girl who was a guitarist and a HUGE Yngwie fan. She came back from her first ever Yngwie-show severely disappointed by his attitude and rudeness to everyone (directed towards bandmates, sound-guy, and club, over the mic). He aparently started late and acted like he was a little kid throwing a tantrum and the whole world was at fault and going to pay for it. I felt sorry for her, she was so let down by him!

 

For comparison, find one negative word anywhere concerning or said by Steve Morse EVER.

 

As for "shred vs feel", it should be "good shred and good feel vs crappy shred and crappy feel".

 

I'll cap this off by stating that none of this, my post included, is even a little important at all. So there.

 

Ah, you beat me to it.

 

The basic fact is that Yngwie is a one-dimensional player. It's glossed over because his one dimension is flashier than one-dimensional "one note says it all" type players.

[MILLO]

Hmmm...another shred vs feel thread.

 

[Note to self...buy more snacks and pull up a chair to watch more Jerry Springer confrontations upcoming in this thread]

any chicks gonna take their tops off?

[picker]

Malmsteen is a dweeb. So what else is new? I'll give the guy his props, he's earned 'em. Even if he ain't at the top of the heap in the neo-classical shred thing now, he was the man to beat for a pretty long time.

 

But I don't own any of his stuff, and I doubt I ever will. He just ain' my thing, I guess. But if yer into it, ol' Yng-gy's about as good as any, and better than a bunch of 'em.

[miroslav]

Hmmm...another shred vs feel thread.

 

[Note to self...buy more snacks and pull up a chair to watch more Jerry Springer confrontations upcoming in this thread]

any chicks gonna take their tops off?

 

Naaa....you need to have some 3-way, inbred, transsexual, cross-dressed, pimp hos involved to make the Jerry Springer show.

 

If you don't hit 10 on the Circus Side-Show Freak scale...you don't get on Jerry Springer.

 

[Bejeeber]

I didn't know he was putting down Steve Morse.

 

That's basically unthinkable, since Steve Morse is an incredible technician in various styles (including inhumanly fast and clean strict alternate picking arpeggios, which I wager Yngwie could never get his relatively easy arpeggio sweep picking right hand to do), plus Steve can play with a great feel.

 

Clearly Yngwie is an ARSE, so I hate to say this, but I've heard him get inside the note and play with conviction and expressiveness, so I think he has some actual talent there too.

 

 

 

 

[Bejeeber]

any chicks gonna take their tops off?

 

[Gifthorse]

I have to say even tho Yngwie's image is that of an egocentric primadonna, my buddies both who have met him at NAMM said he is surprisingly more friendly and down to Earth than some other players you may think would be that way.

 

But as for Yngwie's contribution to rock guitar. It is huge. Before Yngwie people thought Randy Rhoads was a shredder. Then Yngwie came along and completely raised the bar for wankage. I remember hearing him for the first time and simply not believing my ears. Also on top of the speed and grace, he really does have his own sound and style--whether or not you like him.

 

Tons of players have come and gone since, but he is the first real shredder in my opinion *for rock.

[theTragicRich]

Anyone remember that sound clip of him on the plane when someone spilled water on him? If needed I could dig it up

 

He's a talented player, but 90% of his music is boring, or at least 90% of what I've heard. But show me another guitarist who can fling a pick into the audience mid scale, grab another one and keep on going at the same time of twirling his guitar in the air and kicking in leather pants.

[Griffinator]

Any guy that fires his band after nearly every album and tour is a jerk.

 

Ygnwie's songs suck. The closest thing to a real composition he ever did was "Blackstar" and that sucked.

 

Great, he carved out his fretboard to make it easier for him to play fast, and that's all he does. Whoopity doodle.

 

He's not a talented player, he's a machine.

 

John Petrucci, he's a talented player. He can shred note-for-note with Yngwie, but unlike Yngwie, he can actually emote with those thousand-notes-per-second lines. He can make you feel something (other than disdain) with those notes.

[Caevan O'Shite]

I didn't know he was putting down Steve Morse.

 

That's basically unthinkable, since Steve Morse is an incredible technician in various styles (including inhumanly fast and clean strict alternate picking arpeggios, which I wager Yngwie could never get his relatively easy arpeggio sweep picking right hand to do), plus Steve can play with a great feel.

 

Clearly Yngwie is an ARSE, so I hate to say this, but I've heard him get inside the note and play with conviction and expressiveness, so I think he has some actual talent there too.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, he said in an interview (I believe it was even in GP, IIRC) that he hated Steve Morse's vibrato, that it sucked, and that Morse should give up the guitar altogether and play acoustic banjo instead. He had uncomplimentary things to say about other known players, as well. As best I can recall, anybody he happened to diss in that interview had only ever had kind words and praise for Malmsteen before or since. That says a lot of good on their behalf, and not so much for Malmsteen.

 

Gifthorse- I've often wondered if the persona he's portrayed in the press and all might've been calculated and cultivated, and if he could keep it up full-time 24/7...

 

He did contribute to the canon of all that is guitar, I will admit.

[Gifthorse]

You know, I don't listen to Yngwie and really don't like his music at all. He has a few solos on Marching Out that I think are amazing for shred (and I think they have emotion). I can't remember the names. All of the songs were silly because of the singers he played with in my opinion. I do think he had a pretty cool/identifiable guitar tone though.

 

See I am impressed by players with style. I guess that is one thing Yngqie DOES have. Whether you like him or not. He is very unique sounding for what he does and he did do it first. Nobody was shredding like that in 1982, and as far as style is concerned few are more identifiable.

 

See, I don't want you guys to think I worship him, or walk around wearing a Yngwie F-ing Malmsteen shirt. But he is the father of rock shred whether you like him or not. I was there and there was NOBODY else who played like that when he emerged. Now there are a million players who can play like that.

 

John Petrucci is a talented player and I have heard some great shred solos from him. But he isn't an innovator like Yngwie. I mean he is a great player no doubt, but what 'new' has he brought to the table for guitar? Personally I haven't heard anything from him that sounds unique for guitar. You know something that is groundbreakings either stylistically or technically for guitar. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rgFriLMg7zI&NR=1

 

This is a nice collection of John Petrucci shred solos that I found on my own.

 

 

This is a cool intense Yngwie solo around 3:50. The thing i will say I respect about Yngwie is that he sounds spontaneous and not contrived. He sounds like he is really improvising what he is playing

 

[Guitarzan]

Hmmm...another shred vs feel thread.

 

[Note to self...buy more snacks and pull up a chair to watch more Jerry Springer confrontations upcoming in this thread]

any chicks gonna take their tops off?

 

Naaa....you need to have some 3-way, inbred, transsexual, cross-dressed, pimp hos involved to make the Jerry Springer show.

 

yeah..but are they gonna take their tops off?

[Griffinator]

See, I don't want you guys to think I worship him, or walk around wearing a Yngwie F-ing Malmsteen shirt. But he is the father of rock shred whether you like him or not. I was there and there was NOBODY else who played like that when he emerged. Now there are a million players who can play like that.

 

Sorry, but he didn't invent sweep picking, he didn't invent legato style, and folks like McLaughlin and DiMeola were playing faster, cleaner, and doing it on acoustic guitars before Rising Force was even so much as a "to do" note on Mike Varney's desk.

[Mortal Engines]

Yep....rippin solo and I really liked the intro (with the atmospheric keyboards)....then it goes into a cheesy 80s rock riff...the rest of it is pretty lame all around...Maybe it's a personal problem of mine but the solo is the icing on the cake of a GOOD SONG. I never could get into bands that had crappy songs with killer solos. I always preferred good songs with OK to borderline crappy solos....and I really can't stand that goddamn Rob Halford/growing a man-gina/histrionic catterwauling that was so common in the 80s...I had always thought of Malmsteen as Blackmore on steriods but now realize how much of an insult that is to Blackmore....that guy could write a RIFF, and he didn't always take the obvious arena rock solo: he did what was appropriate for the SONG.

[Griffinator]

I had always thought of Malmsteen as Blackmore on steriods but now realize how much of an insult that is to Blackmore....that guy could write a RIFF, and he didn't always take the obvious arena rock solo: he did what was appropriate for the SONG.

 

Thank you. Yngwie's entire "style" is Blackmore, only faster - and it's such an obvious cop it's laughable.

[Guitarzan]

hey! leave Rob out of this..he is the METAL GOD!

[Griffinator]

hey! leave Rob out of this..he is the METAL GAY GOD!

 

[Guitarzan]

so? that isn't important.

[soggybomb]

John Petrucci is a talented player and I have heard some great shred solos from him. But he isn't an innovator like Yngwie. I mean he is a great player no doubt, but what 'new' has he brought to the table for guitar? Personally I haven't heard anything from him that sounds unique for guitar. You know something that is groundbreakings either stylistically or technically for guitar.

 

Find another band that sounds like Dream Theater, before Dream Theater was concieved. He and Dream Theater invented progressive metal. Malmsteen took the technique of his predecessors and made it his own.

[Griffinator]

so? that isn't important.

 

Sorry. Rob is one of those special people that just make the whole gay thing funny to me. Hell Bent For Leather - just the album title says it all.

 

It's not that being gay is bad, it's just that all his fronting like a hard-ass biker dude looks so much more like a Blue Oyster Bar regular in retrospect, and that's just pure comedy.

[Mortal Engines]

Actually, what I said probably isn't entirely fair to Rob...I liked JP up until British Steel (Hell Bent...was MUCH better) when, in my opinion, that band became a parody of themselves and, it seems like there were a whole lotta 80s hair bands that jumped on his vocal style (a style where he probably owed a considerable debt to Ian Gillan, who I always preferred).