tomtele Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Hi I was looking into buying a new amp I was thinking a marshall avt. Nothing over 800. Any recommendations? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Patrick Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Maybe I'm old and set in my ways, but I'm kinda partial to tubes. And in that price range you can get some nice amps that have tubes and will sound better than a solid state amp (even a Marshall solid state amp...). All of these are under $750... Ampeg Super Jet Fender Hot Rod Deluxe Crate Palomino Peavey Classic 30 Traynor YCV40 Buy Tangy's latest CD, "Sorta Like Very Ultra" The Official Tangy Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big G Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 I would only add to Michaels list an old Vox ac 30, be a little wary of the new ones(the build seems to be poorer) The other guitarist in my band currently plays a Marshall avt 150 and after owning it for 4 months or so he is a little dis-heartened with it, doesnt feel it gives him the real tone he is after, buy you gotta try before you buy and make your own mind up. Have fun, hope you get what you want. G Love life, some twists and turns are more painful than others, but love life..... http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=592101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 I agree with the above comments. I highly recommend tubes! My comment would be to check out used amps, if you can. Shop smart, and have patience......hopefully you can find a bargan out there. Good Luck, and let us know what you end up with. Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrick1642607670 Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 I say AC30 but not sure hwta stuff your into the only thing with an ac30 is that they are usually over 1k new but definantly worth it once I can work up enough cash laying around im finally getting rid of my old hybrid guitar research amp. (more appealing than it the sounds, that little red bugger) Anyhoo on to my exspensive fantasy get yourself a 4 12 marshall cab to go with your ac30 and get your self a power soak if you still want your ears connected to your head to hear your beatiful new amp for more then 2 days ya know? oh yes and another thing with the ac30 you need to have enough money to hire a personal crew to lug it everywhere without harming anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampdog Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Don't forget to try Ebay... If it ain't fun...why do it...? http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=778394&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Start looking for used tube Peavey amps. http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 A word of advice Tom, DO NOT MAKE A IMPULSIVE DECISION. Even though the sales guy can guarantee you a certain amp can do everything, he' s just trying to make a sale. So go try a few out, and like many of the gurus here said, good tube amps are the king of amps. Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=810593 http://www.myspace.com/dandelavega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Geoff Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 If you like the VOX AC30, try looking for a Laney VC50 2x12. G. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the World will know Peace": Jimi Hendrix http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=738517&content=music The Geoff - blame Caevan!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Hi I was looking into buying a new amp I was thinking a marshall avt. Nothing over 800. Any recommendations? Thanks Are you looking for something just for personal practice or do you want something you can jam with in a band too? I agree with most everyone else here though.. GET TUBES! You won't be sorry. Some will tell you that solid states are just as good today... they're full of crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrick1642607670 Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 where does one find a Laney dealer so one can tryout a laney amplifier device? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampdog Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Some will tell you that solid states are just as good today... they're full of crap! Come on HT... Tell the dude exactly how you feel... If it ain't fun...why do it...? http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=778394&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 fender blues jr orange tiny terror (you will need to get a cabinet) Epiphone valve jr don't even consider modeling, they are great for recording and practice but nothing beats a tube amp esp one that isn't loaded with 900 knobs to try to be every amp type. get a basic tube amp that can do clean and crunch. the orange tiny terror can do marshall grunt but if you lean towards clean it may not deliver as much joy as it will with the crunch. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Some will tell you that solid states are just as good today... they're full of crap! Come on HT... Tell the dude exactly how you feel... Solid States suck! They have some value for certain things but overall, tubes rule. It's a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Some will tell you that solid states are just as good today... they're full of crap! Come on HT... Tell the dude exactly how you feel... Solid States suck! They have some value for certain things but overall, tubes rule. It's a fact. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILLO Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Well, I'd suggest you get either a modeling amp, or a tube amp, unless you want to play mostly clean, then you can get something like a Roland JC-120, used. Good SS amps? The Trademark series from Tech 21--these are VERY neat, but somwhat weird to change sounds on the fly, total PITA. But they can sound more "open" than many "lower-quality" tube amps when replicating that slight breakup/mild overdrive Marshall thing. The rest of the better-sounding Solid State amps I've played or heard, as far as overdrive goes, are MODELING amps, like the Yamaha DG series, or those Line 6 things... Allan Holdsworth played through Yamahas DG amps or preamps (used tube power amps or combos when he used the DG preamp) and he alwyas sounded awesome--you can get one of those used. If you play out and can handle lots of volume, get a tube amp. On Craigs' List I've seen Marshall JCM 2000 heads going for $600-$800, but then you'll need a cab. That might be too loud, though, so you might want to just get one of the smaller Fender combos--THS MIGHT BE THE BEST ALL-AROUND CHOICE--, and if you don't like their OD channels, jut get an overdrive pedal. Also, look into Carvin amps, although their vintage series used clipping diodes which can make your od sounds suck a bit, especially on the lower od settings. Last time I tried a hybrid (tube + solid state) Valvestate Marshall like the one you mentioned it totally sucked--but that was over 10 years ago. I've stayed away from them, b/c of that experience. Later during the years I've heard a few of those live in bars, etc, and they still sucked, but that also depends on who's playing through it. I'm sure that used in the studio w/ a good player and producer they can sound just fine. But before you get one of those just because of the Marshall name, try a Tech 21 Trademark 60--you'll be blown away by the fact it's a solid state amp. "Without music, life would be a mistake." --from 'Beyond Good and Evil', by Friedrich Nietzsche My MySpace Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulrock Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 I have a Peavy Classic 50 410 combo that is really cool. I dont remember exactly what I paid for it, but I got it used. Definately under $800. Nice clean sound, nice distortion, plenty loud enough for gigging. Hard to find a better amp in this price range. Probably not the best choice if you're into metal, but has the rest covered. 'Zan...Do you have the Tiny Terror? I'm haven't been able to get my hands on one to check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampdog Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Solid States suck! Ok...so what exactly are you trying to tell the dude HT? You should come right out and say what you mean... If it ain't fun...why do it...? http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=778394&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rw2003 Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Hi I was looking into buying a new amp I was thinking a marshall avt. Nothing over 800. Any recommendations? Thanks You gotta tell the folks here what type of playing you do and what type of sound your after and where you intend to play. Here's a good one... http://cgi.ebay.com/All-original-Marshall-JCM-800-2X12-100-watt-4103-Combo_W0QQitemZ190112566304QQihZ009QQcategoryZ38075QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://i5.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/9e/9f/bd13_2.JPG "Spend all day doing nothing But we sure do it well" - Huck Johns from 'Oh Yeah' Click to Listen to Oh yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Solid States suck! Ok...so what exactly are you trying to tell the dude HT? You should come right out and say what you mean... I know. I always talk around a subject. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampdog Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 $305 for that Marshall??? I would like to see what it eventually ends up going for... Hmmmmmm..... If it ain't fun...why do it...? http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=778394&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rw2003 Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 $305 for that Marshall??? I would like to see what it eventually ends up going for... Hmmmmmm..... Yeah... there's lots of room left for those bids to rise. My guess is $1000 or so. "Spend all day doing nothing But we sure do it well" - Huck Johns from 'Oh Yeah' Click to Listen to Oh yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gifthorse Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Maybe I'm old and set in my ways, but I'm kinda partial to tubes. And in that price range you can get some nice amps that have tubes and will sound better than a solid state amp (even a Marshall solid state amp...). All of these are under $750... Ampeg Super Jet Yeah that about sums it up. Fender Hot Rod Deluxe Crate Palomino Peavey Classic 30 Traynor YCV40 http://flagshipmile.dmusic.com/ http://www.myspace.com/gifthorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrick1642607670 Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 "Solid States suck! They have some value for certain things but overall, tubes rule. It's a fact. " they turn on speedy, they umm... they... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rw2003 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 "Solid States suck! They have some value for certain things but overall, tubes rule. It's a fact. " they turn on speedy, they umm... they... are cheap/affordable! "Spend all day doing nothing But we sure do it well" - Huck Johns from 'Oh Yeah' Click to Listen to Oh yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Well, I'd suggest you get either a modeling amp, or a tube amp, unless you want to play mostly clean, then you can get something like a Roland JC-120, used. Good SS amps? The Trademark series from Tech 21--these are VERY neat, but somwhat weird to change sounds on the fly, total PITA. But they can sound more "open" than many "lower-quality" tube amps when replicating that slight breakup/mild overdrive Marshall thing. The rest of the better-sounding Solid State amps I've played or heard, as far as overdrive goes, are MODELING amps, like the Yamaha DG series, or those Line 6 things... Allan Holdsworth played through Yamahas DG amps or preamps (used tube power amps or combos when he used the DG preamp) and he alwyas sounded awesome--you can get one of those used. If you play out and can handle lots of volume, get a tube amp. On Craigs' List I've seen Marshall JCM 2000 heads going for $600-$800, but then you'll need a cab. That might be too loud, though, so you might want to just get one of the smaller Fender combos--THS MIGHT BE THE BEST ALL-AROUND CHOICE--, and if you don't like their OD channels, jut get an overdrive pedal. Also, look into Carvin amps, although their vintage series used clipping diodes which can make your od sounds suck a bit, especially on the lower od settings. Last time I tried a hybrid (tube + solid state) Valvestate Marshall like the one you mentioned it totally sucked--but that was over 10 years ago. I've stayed away from them, b/c of that experience. Later during the years I've heard a few of those live in bars, etc, and they still sucked, but that also depends on who's playing through it. I'm sure that used in the studio w/ a good player and producer they can sound just fine. But before you get one of those just because of the Marshall name, try a Tech 21 Trademark 60--you'll be blown away by the fact it's a solid state amp. i did warn against modeling mainly because of the trend to put everything in except the kitchen sink. but i have to agree on the Yamaha Dg series, they are fantastic amps period. i had a DG100 and it was the most tube feeling amp in the modelers. these have been discontinued so you have to look for a used one. also the DG's very easy to use (no menus) just good old knobs. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 "Solid States suck! They have some value for certain things but overall, tubes rule. It's a fact. " they turn on speedy, they umm... they... are cheap/affordable! So is a Ford Focus but I'm not touching the piece of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Patrick Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Toobs rule!!! http://www.juhnke.com/mike/Gear2006/Amps2.jpg Buy Tangy's latest CD, "Sorta Like Very Ultra" The Official Tangy Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 "Solid States suck! They have some value for certain things but overall, tubes rule. It's a fact. " they turn on speedy, they umm... they... are cheap/affordable! So is a Ford Focus but I'm not touching the piece of crap. LOL!!!!! LMAO!! :grin: http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtele Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 whoa lot of replies, yea I'm looking for for an amp that has a nice overdrive too. I don't really like the distortion I have now, so I've only been playing clean for the longest time. Never tried a tube amp but I guess from the posts they're something to look into. Probably won't invest in a head, don't need anything too loud and I don't think I'm good enough to spend the money on a head and cabs...yet But basically what I'm looking for is a practice/jamming/small gig type of amp. I'll probably be jamming most of the time. thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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