kad Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Couldn't resist Here are a few that come to mind... Clare Fischer Alan Holdsworth Gene Puerling Rob McConnell (brass arranger) Roger Kellaway Monty Alexander Reality is like the sun - you can block it out for a time but it ain't goin' away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottasin Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Phish page is incredible at keys, and trey, i cant even describe his guitar playing, wow. unfortunatley, phish is no more, but im still hoping for a renunion after they get out of jail/rehab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjwilcox Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Resistance is futile.... Lyle Mays John Tout www.wjwcreative.com www.linkedin.com/in/wjwilcox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Meshell Ndegeocello A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Phish Heh, I would have put them in the overrated thread. A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverDragonSoun Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Delerium (band not forum member) B-Tribe Tom Coster Andres Segovia Traci Lords (oops wrong thread type) Begin the day with a friendly voice A companion, unobtrusive - Rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Phish Heh, I would have put them in the overrated thread. OK, I just did. A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferris Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 If I could say I wrote one song....for me it would be Clare's Pensativa..one of my all time favorite jazz compositions. I NEVER get tired of playing this! When I took a lesson w/ Clare many years ago I started playing this for him...I'm a couple bars in and he's yelling.....NO, NO, NO!!!!!! "You're playing the wrong changes....that REAL BOOK THING IS ALL WRONG, one guy (Freddie Hubbard) records it and everyone says that is gospel". "Here are the right changes"....he hands me a personalized handwritten lead sheet. The second bar instead of G7+11 is actually D flat 7 +5-9/ G flat...third bar A flat 9/ G Flat....on and on....quite different from the real book....my Clare experience. I've never walked out of a lesson feeling I knew so little !! If anyone wants to see this version please PM me and I'd be glad to mail a copy out...I'm sure Clare would want his masterpiece to live on w/ the "right" changes. Underrated....I'm not sure, but certainly under mentioned in comparison to many jazz pianists today: Bobo Stenson...Swedish pianist who had the misfortune of being on ECM the same time time as this guy named Keith! Richie Beirach....if there's anyone who has stretched the outer limits of modern jazz harmony...he's the pioneer. Don Freidman....NYC based pianist still playing his a... off. had the bad timing to come up w/ this guy named Bill....they were both on Riverside. Enrico Pieranunzi...to our Italian friends ( Marino)...certainly no stranger, but to a lot of people on this side of the ocean....unknown. Kenny Kirkland.....in the day .......WOW !!!!!!!!!!!! Jim McNeely.....what a great big-band (and I hate big-bands for the most part !) writer and composer....great pianist also! Jimmy Rowles....perhaps the greatest "tunesmith" of all time ! Terry Trotter.....my teacher and mentor in the early '80's....if he hadn't said no to this guy Myles in the early '60's ...we might have been saying Herbie who ??? David Kikoski...if there's a more impressive trio recording of "Giant Steps" (Epicure-Sony '94 #64441...Al Foster/Essiet Essiet) I'd like to hear it!! Joey Calderazzo.....maybe the baddest ever ? NY classical pianist Paul Jacobs.....recorded some Debussy for the Nonesuch label in the '70's......the Etudes are my favorite. These are just a few that come to mind. https://soundcloud.com/dave-ferris https://www.youtube.com/@daveferris2709 2005 NY Steinway D Yamaha AvantGrand N3X, CP88, P515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzwee Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Everytime I watch a jazz master somewhere, I realize how underrated they are. Only a handful draw the crowds and attention. The rest are underrated IMO. Hamburg Steinway O, Crumar Mojo, Nord Electro 4 HP 73, EV ZXA1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirium Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Everytime I watch a jazz master somewhere, I realize how underrated they are. Only a handful draw the crowds and attention. The rest are underrated IMO. ♫♫♫ motif XS6, RD700GX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferris Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 One more has to be mentioned.... Bill Dobbins...pianist/composer/educator/author..... His book "A creative approach to jazz piano harmony" (Advance Music) is arguably the only book you would ever need...a lifetime study. It's based loosely on Clare Fisher's harmonic concepts....this is what Clare was teaching but Bill was able to put it in understandable terms in this book. HIGHLY RECOMENDED !!!!!.......if you pick it up, go immediately to chapter VII...." Thoughts on musical Creativity". A greater discourse on this subject has not been written!! ...very inspiring! It's late ....a list of Bill's accomplishments are to be talked about at a later date....... Anyone who's gone to Eastman, has a friend that went, knows about Bill Dobbins!! https://soundcloud.com/dave-ferris https://www.youtube.com/@daveferris2709 2005 NY Steinway D Yamaha AvantGrand N3X, CP88, P515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmp Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 The Meters --wmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....... Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Thought I should mention.. John Taylor and Django Bates, as a contribution from the British scene John has some recordings on ecm, and plays with peter eskine on his ecm cds. His recent cd 'angel of the presence' camj 7778-2 is astounding. Django is a crazy synth wizard, second only to joe z in my estimation. check it out www.djangobates.co.uk Bobo Stenson..yeah, fantastic Hermeto Pascoal ...he is a god, but i am always amazed that so few people have heard of him. Pierre-Laurent Aimard...wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Coury Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 In the world of rock and roll... Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler. He's a decent pianist, and has employed subtle use of his training in music theory and classical composition in his songs (both parents were instructors). "Oh yeah, I've got two hands here." (Viv Savage) "Mr. Blu... Mr. Blutarsky: Zero POINT zero." (Dean Vernon Wormer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Lower Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 +1 to what Ed Coury wrote. My impression regarding Stephen Tallarico (yep, the guy's real name folks...) used to be that of a dope full of cocaine with little talent. That changed when I watched a couple of "making of" DVDs on Aerosmith records. The guy sure did lots of bad choices in the past, but seems to have come around it and now is making his talent shine. Incredibly versatile voice, undeniable showman grip and a brilliant melody maker to top it up. "I'm ready to sing to the world. If you back me up". (Lennon to his bandmates, in an inspired definition of what it's all about). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Zeger Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 +1 for Bill Dobbins. After a hiatus, we're fortunate to have him back here in Rochester @ Eastman. His insights on and arrangements of Monk are brilliant. Same goes for Harold Danko @ Eastman. I miss his column in "Keyboard". On any given night, one or both of them are playing somewhere in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonglow Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 I've always felt that Jonathan Cain has been an underrated artist. Sure, we know he can write the power ballads that make the young girls cry, but he actually studied music at Roosevelt University in Chicago, and has far more advanced chops than evidenced by his contributions with Journey. Just pick up one of his solo albums (e.g., "Bare Bones" or "Piano With a View"). FWIW, he also plays guitar and harmonica. "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Spud Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 A couple of 80's bands: Icehouse Talk Talk When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrokeys Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 For my money the most underrated act of all time was Cold Blood with Lydia Pense. They are still out there but here was a band with a singer who was a contemporary of Janis Joplin and, in my book, better (go listen for yourself), horn players that were as good as any in Tower of Power, in fact Cold Blood and Tower actually swapped some players in their early days. Lastly, a great keyboardist in Raul Matute. I have no idea what became of him. Any information would be gratefully received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Meshell Ndegeocello +1 Now thats what I'm talking about MY Toys - Kurzweil PC1X, Roland A-90, Yamaha KX88, Yamaha CS1x, Novation 49SL MkII, Presonus Studiolive 16.4.2, JBL PRX615M My Music Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferris Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 David Beebee Yea man....your stuff sounds great....nice vibe. A definite +++ for John Taylor....funny , I only knew Django Bates as a pianist. https://soundcloud.com/dave-ferris https://www.youtube.com/@daveferris2709 2005 NY Steinway D Yamaha AvantGrand N3X, CP88, P515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Link Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Jon Cleary Brave Combo aka âmisterdregsâ Nord Electro 5D 73 Yamaha P105 Kurzweil PC3LE7 Motion Sound KP200S Schimmel 6-10LE QSC CP-12 Westone AM Pro 30 IEMs Rolls PM55P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABECK Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Phish page is incredible at keys, and trey, i cant even describe his guitar playing, wow. unfortunatley, phish is no more, but im still hoping for a renunion after they get out of jail/rehab. I think they were underrated at one time, then, somewhere around the mid 90s, they shifted to overrated. I will say that Page has a very distinct B3 sound. He has had some mods done by Goff. It's a mid-range heavy sound, but very distinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil W Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Omar! John Taylor for sure. I thought most people knew how wondeful Meshell is but maybe I live in a strange sheltered imaginary world. Her last album was great. Bojan Z Nguyen Le Everybody on Dave Ferris' post Japan Bassplayers in general (except Jaco) http://philwbass.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil W Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Andrew Hill http://philwbass.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Aiken Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Most underrated instrumentalist in rock history: Ringo Maybe not underrated, but under recognized: Piano Players: Tommy Flanagan Hampton Hawes Nicky Hopkins Great rock artists in one way or another overshadowed by the fame of others in their band... Gene Clark Ronnie Lane Richard Manuel Unsung heros: Dan Penn Jim Burton Larry Campbell David Rawlings Marc Ribot Often written off as corny or banal but genuinely great (in some way) for their genre/era: Buck Owens Dolly Parton (Pre-Disco) Bee Gees Black Sabbath Elton John Neil Diamond Benny Goodman Coulda been contenders: Emmit Rhodes Townes Van Zandt Nick Drake The Left Banke Miscellaneous: Richard Thompson, Steve Nieve, Larry Young, Jerry Harrison, Tom Verlaine, Nick Drake, Todd Rundgren.... People who are/were really good at some facet of music other than what they are usually recognized for: Duke Ellington (as an instrumentalist) The Rolling Stones (as songwriters) John Paul Jones (on keyboards) Moog The One, VV 64 EP, Wurlies 200A 140 7300, Forte 7, Mojo 61, OB-6, Prophet 6, Polaris, Hammond A100, Farfisa VIP, ,Young Chang 6', Voyager, E7 Clav, Midiboard, Linnstrument, Seaboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffk Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Meshell is the real deal! YouTube music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosendorphen Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 What about Lenny Dee?? "The devil take the poets who dare to sing the pleasures of an artist's life." - Gottschalk Soundcloud Aethellis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakit Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Gentle Giant is about as underated as you can get. Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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