Rampdog Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Alot of you guys do your own recording at home and use a drum machine... I'm about ready to buy one... I need one that is E-A-S-Y and not through the roof expensive... Is it possible to get some suggestions from you? I know it's not a guitar but I plan to use it with my guitars and I kinda got ta' know ya'll now and I value your input... I'm recording through Sonar HS-4, OS is Windows XP... Thanks Billy If it ain't fun...why do it...? http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=778394&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Just a thought, but why not use a software drum machine? Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcat Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 I have an Alesis SR-16. Pros: cheap & easy to program ($149 @ Musicians Friend) Cons: Cymbals sound like CA-CA! If I were buying a machine now I would probably snag THIS Boss machine off Ebay. To my ears the Boss machines (particularly the cymbals) sound more life-like to me. They also have some extra programming functions that allow you to make your patterns and hits sound more organic. OR - as mentioned above, you could go with a software drum-machine or drum sequencer/sample player. Mudcat's music on Soundclick "Work hard. Rock hard. Eat hard. Sleep hard. Grow big. Wear glasses if you need 'em."-The Webb Wilder Credo- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampdog Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 Just a thought, but why not use a software drum machine? Craig...That is a possibility that I will attempt...(the key word there is 'attempt') I'm just not learned enough to know which one is easier...I'm still stumbling along with HS-4... I checked into the Alesis and it has too many down sides...the biggest being support... I feel myself procrastinating... My new word is 'tomorrow'... I have to change my ways but the problem with my neck is getting better so I'm running out of excuses to sit my ass down and RTFM. (read the fu*%ing manual)... god I hate reading manuals... If it ain't fun...why do it...? http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=778394&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillWelcome Home Studios Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 The Alesis drum machines are really, really easy to use. That said, I always liked working in software better. But right now, I don't have a software drum machine that I like. I'm certainly open to suggestions, too. Bill "I believe that entertainment can aspire to be art, and can become art, but if you set out to make art you're an idiot." Steve Martin Show business: we're all here because we're not all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampdog Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 The Alesis drum machines are really, really easy to use. That said, I always liked working in software better. But right now, I don't have a software drum machine that I like. I'm certainly open to suggestions, too. Bill Bill ... What software drum machine (that you don't like) are you using right now? If it ain't fun...why do it...? http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=778394&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 I'm sure I've said it too many times already, but I love me some Fruity Loops for drum programming. Limitless possibilites, particularly since they added variable pattern length. I was able to lay out a rough draft sketch of a 12:00 prog piece with at least 8 tempo and/or time signature changes, and pass it over to my drummer for study and development 5 days before practice. You know how much easier that is than trying to pound it out DURING practice? A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampdog Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 I'm sure I've said it too many times already, but I love me some Fruity Loops for drum programming. Limitless possibilites, particularly since they added variable pattern length. I was able to lay out a rough draft sketch of a 12:00 prog piece with at least 8 tempo and/or time signature changes, and pass it over to my drummer for study and development 5 days before practice. You know how much easier that is than trying to pound it out DURING practice? Ok Griff... which Fruity Loops version are you using? If it ain't fun...why do it...? http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=778394&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 FL Studio 6. A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampdog Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 FL Studio 6. I'll check it out... Thanks Griff... If it ain't fun...why do it...? http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=778394&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarPlayerFL Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Just a thought, but why not use a software drum machine? Craig...That is a possibility that I will attempt...(the key word there is 'attempt') I'm just not learned enough to know which one is easier...I'm still stumbling along with HS-4... I have an SR-16. It was great back in the early 90s. It's still good today to play with and get inspiration for songs. BUT... Unless you're a drummer, programming a drum machine is a MAJOR PITA. It is so much easier to use software for that purpose. And most software allows you to load samples for drums sounds so you're not stuck with outdated sounds in the machine. A Jazz/Chord Melody Master-my former instructor www.robertconti.com (FKA GuitarPlayerSoCal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampdog Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 GPSC...I'm not a drummer so it looks like I'm gonna have to go the software route... again, I'm back to RTFM....Thanks If it ain't fun...why do it...? http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=778394&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Fumbly uses software that sounds amazing. Maybe he'll stop in and refresh our memories, as to what it was. Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy clay Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 I've been doing a LOT of research on this very topic. I'm more live oriented, want to use a software drum machine on a live gig. (can't afford the real thing). I've stumbled across steinberg.net. They have a version of a software drum machine called the Groove Agent3. I recently purchased some software from them (Halion Player) and they included a demo of Groove Agent2, but I can't listen to it on my MacBook Pro. It's not Universal binary, neither is Groove Agent 3. But the promo material I've read on their site makes me want to buy that software right now. I won't describe all the stuff here, but for more info go to the site. Multiple variations of patterns that can be triggered from a USB keyboard, with velocity dictating which variation plays. The sounds they include with the Halion Player are good, but I'm missing a brush drum kit. Good luck in your seach, and for cryin' out loud, read the manual ; ). I didn't and it took me days to figure stuff out. I'm trying to think but nuthin' happens.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumblyfingers Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Mac computer wise....I have this. It is very basic in the sense that it just does 4/4 but it comes with a lot of sounds and is very easy to use. Watch the demo video....the sounds he uses suck, there are quite a few more natural drum sounds. http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/idrum/download.asp# I also use Drumcore which is my favourite. http://www.submersiblemusic.com/TemplateMain.aspx?contentId=62 The neat thing about is is if you find yourself limited by the audio loops from each drummer, you can record a MIDI pattern and have it play any one of the drummers kits, or individual drums/cymbals from any drummers kit....and the samples are really good. I have also a Roland R-8 which is a nice drum machine with big pads....like 1-1/4" square or so. I have not used it for so long but I am thinking about hooking it up to the MIDI Interface and seeing if I can access Drumcore directly from it via Pro Tools where Drumcore "Rewires" as a plug in. There is a nice drum programmer in Reason3 as well and I have Reason Drumkits to go with it which is a collection of recorded samples of real drums....sounds really good. The loop player/sampler in there is awesome also. I also have Discrete Drums Series Two which is like 18 CD's of drum loops fills, etc and you can either choose from the 16Bit audio loops in stereo or it drops into Pro Tools as individual 24Bit multitracks so you can mix each drum or cymbals the way you want. http://www.discretedrums.com/ http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d42/Gypsyfingers/Picture1-4.png There is so much you can do these days....it is awesome! Still......nothing beats the vibe of setting up a drummer in a studio, micing him up, getting good sounds and going for it live...the sponteneity and synergy and just the fact that you can communicate an idea and have the drummer do it right there and then. But it comes down to money and time and that is where software comes in......and it is getting better every day. Some more stuff...... I wish I had this.. http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=1 This looks fun also.... http://www.toontrack.com/ezdrummer.asp Check out the demo's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampdog Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 Thanks all... keep em' commin and I'll never have to read that damn manual... hehe ... nice demos Fumbles... interesting.. If it ain't fun...why do it...? http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=778394&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Ferrington III. Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Just a thought, but why not use a software drum machine? Craig...That is a possibility that I will attempt...(the key word there is 'attempt') Well, I keep suggesting this one, which is a free download and works fine. It plays drum samples... or whatever samples you give it, so you can also use it as a sequencer. http://www.leafdigital.com/software/leafdrums/ Band MySpace My snazzy t-shirt empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampdog Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 Kramer... that is looking sweet... I'm gonna dive into it a bit more... What OS are you using it with and what recording software do you have? I guess you've had no problems at all with leafdrums?Thanks bud... If it ain't fun...why do it...? http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=778394&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Ferrington III. Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 No, no probs. The drum machine mixes and saves the track to a .wav file which you then import to whatever software you are using. And of course, you can convert the .wav to whatever other format, if you want. I've been using it since about Win ME. I am now on XP. I've never had a problem with it. Band MySpace My snazzy t-shirt empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strategery Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Hey Rampdog.... I've still got my Boss DR880 for sale.It's the TOP of the line Boss unit and there's nothing this puppy won't do.It's $499 new and I'm letting it go for $299...you pay UPS charges.I've even got the original box. It's been in my home studio for 1.5 years and is in perfect condition.It comes with the manual, software, and a/c adaptor. Just let me know if you're interested. Randy "Just play!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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