Chad Thorne Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Tonight at the local blues jam a group that was up launched into the unmistakable A7/Ab7 intro to "Red House." As I leaned over to my wife and muttered "oh, God, not 'Red House'", one of the non-musician patrons up back yelled in a commanding voice, "Play something else!" The band obediently stopped and started a different song. Laugh? I thought I'd die... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILLO Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 wow.... yup, pretty embarrasing... "Without music, life would be a mistake." --from 'Beyond Good and Evil', by Friedrich Nietzsche My MySpace Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesape Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 If I'd broken into "Red House" and gotten heckled, I'd heckle the retard back and turn up. Never a DUH! moment! Well, almost never. OK, OK! Sometimes never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 If I'd broken into "Red House" and gotten heckled, I'd heckle the retard back and turn up. As I've said before, there is a reason all of those bar band songs are still played. Crowds love them. Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Tonight at the local blues jam a group that was up launched into the unmistakable A7/Ab7 intro to "Red House." As I leaned over to my wife and muttered "oh, God, not 'Red House'", one of the non-musician patrons up back yelled in a commanding voice, "Play something else!" The band obediently stopped and started a different song. Laugh? I thought I'd die... I'm perplexed as to why you would go to a "local blues jam" and not expect to hear Red House? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 If I'd broken into "Red House" and gotten heckled, I'd heckle the retard back and turn up. :thu: I'd have wished I was up there PLAYING WITH THE BAND! Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Tonight at the local blues jam a group that was up launched into the unmistakable A7/Ab7 intro to "Red House." As I leaned over to my wife and muttered "oh, God, not 'Red House'", one of the non-musician patrons up back yelled in a commanding voice, "Play something else!" The band obediently stopped and started a different song. Laugh? I thought I'd die... I'm perplexed as to why you would go to a "local blues jam" and not expect to hear Red House? Yea.....excellent point! Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Ferrington III. Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 As I leaned over to my wife and muttered "oh, God, not 'Red House'"... Yeah, fair enough. I get sick of hearing some songs over and over again too. Band MySpace My snazzy t-shirt empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picker Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 So what would you rather hear, Stormy Monday? Slow blues is slow blues, and Red House isn't as hackneyed as some... Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Well that band has NO BALLS at all!! that would be the friggin' day I would STOP a song because one guy yelled out anything! http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Well that band has NO BALLS at all!! that would be the friggin' day I would STOP a song because one guy yelled out anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 If I'd broken into "Red House" and gotten heckled, I'd heckle the retard back and turn up. http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted May 4, 2007 Author Share Posted May 4, 2007 ...I'm perplexed as to why you would go to a "local blues jam" and not expect to hear Red House? Well, "expecting to" and "wanting to" are two different things. I dunno, for some reason "Red House" sets me off. I like the original and nobody plays it as well as the original, but that's true of jams, too, including me. I guess it's because even though Hendrix managed to shred and make it soulful and bluesy at the same time, "Red House" seems to be the vehicle for (Warning! Strong Opinion Ahead!) the self-indulgent, crushingly loud, wheedly-deedly, endless-solo, anti-blues playing that I just despise. Oh, there's enough of it in other songs at a jam, but most of these guys' skills are not diverse enough to know how to do it over an uptempo shuffle. "Red House", with its slow, ponderous rhythm, provides the perfect kind of vehicle for it. And IMO an audience member has every right to "request" a different song. Even though we don't get paid money to play at a jam we do benefit by having an opportunity to get out and play with others in a (one hopes) pleasant, conducive atmosphere. If we drive the beer-purchsing customers out the bar owner will cancel the jam and we will cease to have that. It's a blues jam, sure, so it's o.k. to decline to play, say, a polka that somebody requests. But there are lots of blues tunes to choose from. "Play something else!" is, IMO, immediate, unambiguous "feedback" from a "customer" as to his wishes and dislikes. And I still laugh my butt off every time I think of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 ...I'm perplexed as to why you would go to a "local blues jam" and not expect to hear Red House? Well, "expecting to" and "wanting to" are two different things. I dunno, for some reason "Red House" sets me off. I like the original and nobody plays it as well as the original, but that's true of jams, too, including me. I guess it's because even though Hendrix managed to shred and make it soulful and bluesy at the same time, "Red House" seems to be the vehicle for (Warning! Strong Opinion Ahead!) the self-indulgent, crushingly loud, wheedly-deedly, endless-solo, anti-blues playing that I just despise. Oh, there's enough of it in other songs at a jam, but most of these guys' skills are not diverse enough to know how to do it over an uptempo shuffle. "Red House", with its slow, ponderous rhythm, provides the perfect kind of vehicle for it. And IMO an audience member has every right to "request" a different song. Even though we don't get paid money to play at a jam we do benefit by having an opportunity to get out and play with others in a (one hopes) pleasant, conducive atmosphere. If we drive the beer-purchsing customers out the bar owner will cancel the jam and we will cease to have that. It's a blues jam, sure, so it's o.k. to decline to play, say, a polka that somebody requests. But there are lots of blues tunes to choose from. "Play something else!" is, IMO, immediate, unambiguous "feedback" from a "customer" as to his wishes and dislikes. And I still laugh my butt off every time I think of it. I think it's rude but ... whatever. Hey... if you find yourself in Long Island in June, come out to a dive in Bellmore. I'll be sure to play Red House for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted May 4, 2007 Author Share Posted May 4, 2007 So what would you rather hear, Stormy Monday? Slow blues is slow blues, and Red House isn't as hackneyed as some... Well, Picker, I am very opinionated and a bit of a purist; the only problem I have with "Stormy Monday" is that everybody tries to play it like the Allmans (leading to what I'll call the "Red House Syndrome") and hardly anybody plays it like T-Bone. SM is, like RH, a very nice song and can be played very nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 You don't stop a song once it has started, bottom line, if that customer cannot wait three or for minutes for a song to run through, he should grow a brain! It's no different than any other gig, how many times do you think EVERYONE in the room will like any particular tune you play? I don't know for sure but I bet the answer is NEVER! http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 So what would you rather hear, Stormy Monday? Slow blues is slow blues, and Red House isn't as hackneyed as some... Well, Picker, I am very opinionated and a bit of a purist; the only problem I have with "Stormy Monday" is that everybody tries to play it like the Allmans (leading to what I'll call the "Red House Syndrome") and hardly anybody plays it like T-Bone. SM is, like RH, a very nice song and can be played very nicely. Did you ever see A String's video for "Stormy Monday"? That's a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted May 4, 2007 Author Share Posted May 4, 2007 "If I'd broken into "Red House" and gotten heckled, I'd heckle the retard back and turn up." With all due respect, Reif (I got nuttin' but love for ya) do we wonder why bars stop booking bands and use recorded music? "Hey... if you find yourself in Long Island in June, come out to a dive in Bellmore. I'll be sure to play Red House for you." Sounds good - I'll get up with you and show you how it should be played...http://websmileys.com/sm/happy/028.gif (joke!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Sounds good - I'll get up with you and show you how it should be played...http://websmileys.com/sm/happy/028.gif (joke!) Come on out and give me a lesson then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Hay, I want one of those lessons TOO!! I could use a little purity in my life! http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherstar Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Amen to that. I'm with Bluesape and I think I'd just have to turn it up in retaliation. Turn me over, I'm done on this side... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Amen to that. I'm with Bluesape and I think I'd just have to turn it up in retaliation. Yep. Me too and I'm getting either a Twin-Reverb or a Twin-Amp very soon so I'll have a lot to turn up. LOL! Drown those hecklers right out. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesape Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Chad, your point is taken, but I'd manage to turn it into a joke usually, and if need be, let the idiot know that ya don't diss bands like that. Never a DUH! moment! Well, almost never. OK, OK! Sometimes never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billster Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Well, #1 it was a jam nite, not a band set, so if the assembled audience votes "no", they do have some say in it, because it's a jam, not a presentation. #2, if somebody said "play something else!" at a jam nite, I'd invite them to come up and entertain the crowd themselves with "something else" for a while. #3, and if they didn't want to do that, and insisted that I play "something else", I'd start playing Smoke on the Water Buy my CD on CD Baby! Bill Hartzell - the website MySpace?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted May 4, 2007 Author Share Posted May 4, 2007 Amen to that. I'm with Bluesape and I think I'd just have to turn it up in retaliation. Yep. Me too and I'm getting either a Twin-Reverb or a Twin-Amp very soon so I'll have a lot to turn up. LOL! Drown those hecklers right out. LOL! Sorry, guys, I just can't get with this attitude. Some years ago I was in a band with another guitar player who held the exact same attitude. We always played too loud, soloed too long; the other gtr. player was way into Hendrix, SRV, Johnny Winter. We could, and often did, drive all the patrons out of a club within 1 to 2 sets. Gigs dried up and the band fell apart within a year. And it was a good band! I think we can take audience preferences into account and still be true to the artistic imperative...http://websmileys.com/sm/crazy/1087.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 One heckler does not make the whole crowd. If I started a song and the entire crowd started booing and yelling for us to play something else, I might consider it. One or two guys that are yelling stuff, I put them in their place. I don't put up with that $h!t. Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 One heckler does not make the whole crowd. If I started a song and the entire crowd started booing and yelling for us to play something else, I might consider it. One or two guys that are yelling stuff, I put them in their place. I don't put up with that $h!t. http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I think we can take audience preferences into account and still be true to the artistic imperative...http://websmileys.com/sm/crazy/1087.gif And what artistic imperative are you trying to drive home here with this thread you started? From what I see, you started this thread because you thought it was funny that a band conceded to some jerkoff so that you wouldn't have to hear "Red House" for the umteenth time. Since all of us here are in a position to be on the receiving end of this "joke"... I just didn't get the humor in it. The only other "imperative" that I'm getting here is that you're the only one on this entire planet who knows how to play it right. Are you really that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Patrick Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I was in a Top 40 and oldies band (hey, I needed the money...). We had one country song in our setlist. We were playing this bar on the south side of Chicago, and before we played the tune ("Driving My Life Away" by Eddie Rabbit), the singer says to the audience, "You wanna hear some country?" The response was an immediate and loud "NOOOOO!" So we played something else. Having said that, being surprised or upset that you hear "Red House" at the local blues jam night is like being upset that you get wet when you go swimming. Buy Tangy's latest CD, "Sorta Like Very Ultra" The Official Tangy Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted May 4, 2007 Author Share Posted May 4, 2007 "And what artistic imperative are you trying to drive home here with this thread you started?" I just thought the incident was funny, that's all. "The only other "imperative" that I'm getting here is that you're the only one on this entire planet who knows how to play it right. Are you really that good?" Of course not. My remark about "showing you how to play it" was tongue-in-cheek, as I tried to indicate. Well, I guess I've learned something this morning from this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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