jazzdoc52 Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I own the Yamaha ,have had it for about 4 months, but had a hard time choosing between that and the Roland. Well, Im in a praise band at church that uses the Roland, and I practice with them on Wed and play on Sunday, but play with my jazz band with the Yamaha on Thursday nights in a bar/restaurant...IMO the Yamaha is head and tails better, better organ sounds, better EP sounds..the only thing the Roland has is maybe,,,,I repeat maybe...acoustic piano sounds..and the Yamaha has way better combo sounds with drums and stuff to practice with, and perform in a solo setting...I vote for the ES all the way...comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz+ Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 As a former Motif, P250, P120, P90, Kurzweil PC2X and ES4 owner: I vote RD-700SX for jazz. Harry was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Find 800 of Harry's solo piano arrangements and tutorials at https://www.patreon.com/HarryLikas These arrangements are for teaching solo piano chording using Harry's 2+2 harmony method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirium Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I vote S90ES for classic and rock music. Willy nilly I must agree, for jazz and other charivari RD-700SX sounds better :grin: ♫♫♫ motif XS6, RD700GX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverDragonSoun Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Who cares?? What ever you like and whatever works best for you is the way to go. This has been debated many times on this forum. If you do a search you'll find a few threads with the information and opinions you seek. Begin the day with a friendly voice A companion, unobtrusive - Rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 get both Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 get both That would make for an interesting set-up. Does anyone around here carry (2) 88-note boards? To answer the question, play both and decide which board feels and sounds right. The rest can be worked out. PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirium Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 get both That would make for an interesting set-up. Does anyone around here carry (2) 88-note boards? this is very portable set-up. You just need to work out a little bit more. Anyway it's better to carry two boards in one hand each then one in one hand - for stability purposes :grin: ♫♫♫ motif XS6, RD700GX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 this is very portable set-up. You just need to work out a little bit more. Anyway it's better to carry two boards in one hand each then one in one hand - for stability purposes :grin: Right. Beyond the Gold's Gym membership, one has to consider the logistics of setting it up too. http://heddev.com/miata/images/Rack%20on%20forklift%201%20med.jpg This keyboard stand minus the accessories is very important. PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 this is very portable set-up. You just need to work out a little bit more. Anyway it's better to carry two boards in one hand each then one in one hand - for stability purposes :grin: Right. Beyond the Gold's Gym membership, one has to consider the logistics of setting it up too. http://heddev.com/miata/images/Rack%20on%20forklift%201%20med.jpg This keyboard stand minus the accessories is very important. This is very doable if you read the latest Yamaha Loyalty program You have to start with the Rd700SX then use this thing called midi I will let you take it from there Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwgm Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Hi Doc, I lusted after the RD700SX, but when I was ready to buy, Yamaha released the S90ES. I fell in love with the S90ES piano right away, and I do understand what people are saying when they prefer the Roland for jazz--the samples blend very well in the middle registers at lower velocities which give it characteristics that remind me of a quality European grand. Someone thought long and hard about how and where the samples are looped in that voice. But the Yammy just blew me away with programming features--it's a full blown Motif synth and the tonal possibilities in this keyboard are amazing. When you add the 3 PLG boards for analog, virtual and FM synthesis the mind boggles. For the same price I couldn't get the Roland to weigh in close to the Yammy, even though I do prefer its piano sample. If you're not used to synth programming, the Roland is very easy to play, especially on stage. Everything is there in front of you on the 700SX, including slider controls for the tonewheels on the B3 emulator. In the Yammy, these are buried, and the samples don't lend themselves to simulate drawbars, anyway. Certainly, you can go with the Roland and have no regrets, but if you have an interest in sound synthesis and electronic music, then the Yamaha is the way to go, but in that vein, have you looked at the new Motif XS? regards, --kwgm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceNorman Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 get both That would make for an interesting set-up. Does anyone around here carry (2) 88-note boards? I do. I use a Yamaha P200 as my "primary" piano and midi controller for a Motif ES Rack unit. My "second" board is a RD700SX. I bought the RD700SX as a replacement for the P200 when I had some problems with the keybed and was going to be without a piano for several weeks while it was stuck in the shop. While I loved the epianos, organs, strings and horns of the RD700 - but found that I liked the P200 accoustic piano much better (something about the brightness in the low to mid registers I think). When the P200 came back from the shop - I tried the P200 for piano and the RD700SX as my "second" board one night and loved it. The Motif ES Rack was the last thing I added (deal was too good to pass up...) - and extends the P200. It's definitely a bulky rig - but the extra 50-75 pounds that the two boards combined represent over a "lighter" rig ain't that big of a deal. The SpaceNorman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirium Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I do. I use a Yamaha P200 as my "primary" piano and midi controller for a Motif ES Rack unit. My "second" board is a RD700SX. It's definitely a bulky rig - but the extra 50-75 pounds that the two boards combined represent over a "lighter" rig ain't that big of a deal. right, just tell us you're famous and they carry these boards for you... ♫♫♫ motif XS6, RD700GX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceNorman Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 [quote=delirium right, just tell us you're famous and they carry these boards for you... I guess the weight thing is a perspective thing. This stuff seems downright featherweight compared to the Rhodes, Clav and Hammond I used to drag around. Now, just like then - I lug my own gear. As far as being famous goes.... I'm a legend! Both my kids think I'm a rock star - unfortunately, I've got a long way to go before the wife will be convinced. The SpaceNorman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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