The POWERED SPEAKERS Thread

[Jazz+]

POWERED SPEAKERS:

 

EV SXa360 http://www.thomann.de/prodbilder/166676.jpg

http://www.electrovoice.com

12 " LF driver woofer

2" HF driver

60hz-18khz at -10db

350 watt RMS LF power amplifier

150 watt RMS HF power amplifier

126 spl

129 dB maximum output capability

23.1" x 16.9" x 12.3"

36 lbs.

$897

 

JBL EON15 G2 http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/2000/EON15.jpg

http://www.jblpro.com/eong2/eon15g2/eon_specs.html

15" LF driver

2" HF driver

39 Hz - 18 kHz (-10 dB)

300 watts LF power amp

100 watts HF power amp

129 dB max output

27 in x 17 in x 17.5 in.

46 lbs.

$600

 

Yorkville NX550P http://www.yorkville.com/images/products/sm_nx350.jpg

http://www.yorkville.com/products_main.asp?cat=22&id=257&type=29&show=

2-Way Bi-Amplified Active

450-watt LF amplifier

100-watt HF amplifier

12 B&C woofer, 1 Compression driver

45Hz to 18kHz frequency response

124dB peak SPL output

13.25 x 16.5 x 27.25 x 8

Treble/Bass EQ

47 lbs.

$699

 

Mackie SRM450 http://www.parkwaymusic.com/pa/graphics/paspeaker_SRM450.jpg

http://www.mackie.com/products/srm450/index.html

12" woofer two-way powered system

1.75" HF driver

45hz-20khz at -10 db

300 watt LF power amplifier

100 watt HF power amplifier

127 dB maximum output capability

26 x 15.4" x 14.8"

"Contour" (Loudness switch), "Low Cut" switch

51 lbs

$650

 

FBTMaxX 4A http://www.musikhauskaufmann.at/content/shop/images/FBT-MaxX4A-Aktivlautspreche.jpg

http://www.fbt.it//sito/Inglese/pae/speaker/FBTMaxX/FBTMaxX-4A/index.asp

12" B&C woofer, two-way powered system

1" B&C high frequency driver

50hz-20khz at -6db

300 watt LF power amplifier

100 watt HF power amplifier

123 dB maximum output capability

25.3" x 16.25" x 13.2"

Treble/Mid/Bass EQ

35.2 lbs

$600

 

 

Yamaha MSR 400 http://www.yamaha-europe.com/picture_archiv/products/20_proaudio/Speakers/pa_speakers/MSR400_low_jpg.jpg

http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,,CNTID%253D36725%2526CTID%253D,00.html

12 " woofer, two-way powered system

1.75" HF driver

50hz-20khz

225W/ 4Ω LF power amplifier

75W/16Ω HF power amplifier

121 dB maximum output capability

16" x 25-3/4" x 13-7/8")

2 band EQ

51 lbs.

$ 549

 

RCF ART 322 A http://www.rmcaudio.com/rcf/pics/art_active.jpg

http://www.rcf.it/

12 inch woofer

2 inch HF driver

400 watt RMS

128 dB max SPL

50.72 lbs

$929

[Jazz+]

POWERED 10 INCH SPEAKERS:

 

Mackie SRM 350 http://www.musik-service.de/images/ProduX/395739693itb.jpg

http://www.mackie.com/products/srm350/index.html

2-Way Bi-Amplified Active

165-watts RMS LF amplifier

30-watts RMS HF amplifier

10 Rockridge woofer, 1 B&C Compression driver

121dB peak SPL output

61Hz to 22kHz frequency response @ -10dB

20.75" x 13.10" x 12.25"

32 lbs., plastic cabinet

$499

FBT MaxX 2A http://www.musicinstruments.it/casse/thumbnails/cassa%20amplificata%20FBT%20MaxX%202A_jpg.jpg

http://www.fbt.it//sito/Inglese/pae/speaker/FBTMaxX/FBTMaxX-2A/index.asp

2-Way Bi-Amplified Active

200-watts RMS LF amplifier

50-watts RMS HF amplifier

10 B&C woofer, 1 B&C high frequency Compression driver

50Hz to 20kHz frequency response @ -6dB

121dB peak SPL output

22" x 14" x 12.28"

3 band EQ

28.6 lbs.

$499

Yorkville E160P http://www.musicalinstruments.com/images/Yorkville/Speakers/E160Pd.jpg

http://www.yorkville.com/products.asp?cat=2&id=9&type=29&show=Specifications

2-Way Bi-Amplified Active

160-watts RMS LF amplifier

30-watts RMS HF amplifier

10 B&C woofer, 1 Compression driver

50Hz to 18kHz frequency response +/- 3db

122dB peak SPL output

17.5" x 16" x 12.9" x 12.9

45 lbs., 3/4 inch 7-ply Spruce cabinet

$499

JBL EON10 G2 http://img.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/thumbnail/600202.t.jpg

http://www.jblpro.com/pub/mi/EON10G2.pdf

2-Way Bi-Amplified Active

125 -watts RMS LF amplifier

50-watts RMS HF amplifier

10 woofer, 1 Compression driver

65Hz to 18kHz frequency response @ -10dB

117dB peak SPL output

19.4" x 14" x 12/1"

23 lbs.

$499

KV2 Audio EX10 ($1,799 list price)http://fr.sonofanzine.com/img/produits/thumb2/5/0/50758.jpg

http://www.kv2audio.com/ex_10.html

2-Way Bi-Amplified Active

450-watt LF amplifier and 50-watt HF amplifier

10 woofer, 1 Compression driver

-3dB response 65Hz -18KHz

-10dB response 50Hz - 22KHz

Max SPL long-term 126dB

Max SPL Peak 129dB

48.4 lbs., 15 mm birch cabinet

20" tall

$1200

 

[ProfD]

Jazz+, thanks for reviving this as a separate thread especially since it is an ongoing concern.

 

I use the MSR400 as a personal monitor and think it is great.

 

My question is:

 

When it comes to putting the WHOLE band including kick drum through a pair these boxes, what would you add or do differently if anything?

[Jazz+]

If the kick drum and bass need to be loud, then I would add a powered sub woofer.

[burningbusch]

New from JBL

PRX512M

 

http://jblpro.com/products/portablesound/prx/images/PRX512M_Large.jpg

 

Dual angle enclosure for both front-of-house and floor monitor applications

Optimized EQ for monitor or front-ofhouse applications

JBL Differential Drive® woofer

1.5" annual polymer diaphragm compression driver

Class-D, Crown® digital amplifier: lightweight, compact, multi channel,heritage

DSP input section, crossover, dynamic limiting, component optimization, selectable system EQ

Professional XLR line and ¼" Mic/Instrument inputs, with loop through.

Illuminated logo for clear Power-On status

Dual angle pole mount socket

DuraFlex coated plywood construction

 

Frequency Range: 46 Hz 20 kHz

Frequency Response: 76 Hz 20 kHz

Power Capacity: 500 W continuous, 1000 W peak

Rated Maximum SPL: 133 dB SPL peak

Dimensions (H x W x D): 650 mm x 380 mm x 350 mm (25.5 in x 15 in x 14 in)

Weight: 18 kg (40 lb)

 

Busch.

[eric]

How about adding some comments about how you like each of the products you have tried? This reads like a cut and pasted catalog that can be found at many websites and lends very little value otherwise. User comments on how these work for keyboards would be beneficial. Thanks!

[VLH]

Great thread.

I don't know about the other prices, but the lowest price I've seen the FBT MaxX 2A at is $650, shipping included--quite a bit more than $499.

 

How are the 10" speakers at handling low end in a jazz setting, where you don't need whomping bass?

 

VLH

[MusicaL]

Prof D,

 

Are you using one or two MSR 400s? I am looking at these and may pull the trigger when I get some money to spend!!! I would want to use two for stereo monitoring, but they're heavy compared to other similar products!

 

Also, can the MSR400's be pole mounted?

 

I am now using the MSR100's which are almost adequate for monitoring but...

 

TIA,

 

aL

[ProfD]

Prof D,

 

Are you using one or two MSR 400s? I am looking at these and may pull the trigger when I get some money to spend!!! I would want to use two for stereo monitoring, but they're heavy compared to other similar products!

 

Also, can the MSR400's be pole mounted?

 

I am now using the MSR100's which are almost adequate for monitoring but...

 

TIA,

 

aL

 

I use one MSR400 as a keyboard monitor. The weight is not an issue for me mainly because it sounds great.

 

I plan to add another one to use for small PA apps moreso than as a keyboard stereo monitor.

 

Eventually, I'll get the matching pair of MSR800s to complete the low end theory.

 

The MSR400 can be pole mounted. I have one but Mr. Petroleum thinks it looks dorky.

[ITGITC]

The MSR400 can be pole mounted. I have one but Mr. Petroleum thinks it looks dorky.

 

 

I assume you are referring to me?

 

The only reason I said it looked dorky (and I didn't use that particular word, but nevermind that)... was if you have a nice set of PA speakers on either side of the stage handling audio from all the sources, and one powered speaker on a pole behind you aimed at the audience...

 

I'm sure I can think of another word besides 'dorky'... but it escapes me.

 

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/SamMitcham/Dork.jpg

 

Yeah.

 

I used my old JBL EON as a floor monitor. Sometimes when I was forced to play left-hand bass and the PA was carrying only vocals and, ahem, acoustic guitars, I would turn the amp towards the audience and sit it upright instead of angled.

 

I dunno. It's a line of sight thing. Kinda sticks out like a hairy mole on the face of Eva.

 

 

http://images.askmen.com/top-99/2006/pictures/eva-longoria-pics.jpg

 

 

OK Stepay. Go ahead... tell me how much you hate the looks of Eva. I'm braced.

 

Eva

 

 

 

 

[MusicaL]

Thanks Prof...

 

I am unclear on the petroleum reference Tom. Care to explain for the uninitiated members of our fora!!!?

 

aL

[Floyd Tatum]

Great thread.

I don't know about the other prices, but the lowest price I've seen the FBT MaxX 2A at is $650, shipping included--quite a bit more than $499.

 

How are the 10" speakers at handling low end in a jazz setting, where you don't need whomping bass?

 

VLH

 

Not meaning any disrespect to anyone, but... how is this a great thread? It's a list of powered speakers with no personal commentary whatsoever. It's like reading a catalogue. How does that qualify it as a great thread, in your opinion?

 

[eric]

Great thread.

I don't know about the other prices, but the lowest price I've seen the FBT MaxX 2A at is $650, shipping included--quite a bit more than $499.

 

How are the 10" speakers at handling low end in a jazz setting, where you don't need whomping bass?

 

VLH

 

Not meaning any disrespect to anyone, but... how is this a great thread? It's a list of powered speakers with no personal commentary whatsoever. It's like reading a catalogue. How does that qualify it as a great thread, in your opinion?

 

Agreed - hence my earlier request for user commentary, rather than cut and paste of readily available info. I've not really used many of these speakers and would benefit from forum user commentary.

[Bridog6996]

I also use the Yamaha MSR400 as a personal monitor. For monitoring purposes, I don't particularly see the need for stereo. I just want to be able to hear what I'm doing. You certainly won't be at a loss for volume. The MSR400 is loud and full. I've even used it for a few gigs where no PA was available and it provided sufficient volume (even competing with a loud guitar player) with head room to spare. I also like it because the body is cut so that it can lie as a wedge with 2 angle options. That's a feature that some powered speakers don't have.

[keyguy]

I have 4 of the FBT Maxx2a's for monitors and 2 FBT Maxx4a's for mains in my speaker on a stick system. I have not heard the EV's or the KV2's but I can assure you they sound miles better than any of the rest. And a pair of the 10's or 12's make a great stereo keyboard rig. If I am subbing in another band, I take a pair of one or the other. With my band, I use a Barbetta 41-SE. The FBT's are much cleaner and just as loud as the Barbetta. YMMV. Call Northern Sound and Lighting for the best prices on FBT.

 

Jim Wells

Tallahassee, FL

[DafDuc]

http://www.peavey.com/products/includes/series_left/series96_left.jpg

http://www.peavey.com/products/includes/series_right/series96_right.jpg

 

http://www.peavey.com/products/browse.cfm/action/drill/cat/96/begin/1/PRSeries.cfm

 

Love my 12"...

[DafDuc]

Go ahead... tell me how much you hate the looks of Eva. I'm braced.

 

Eva

 

She's not even my favorite Eva.

 

http://www.areavoices.com/charliezma/images/thumbnail/greenacres1.jpg

[ITGITC]

Thanks Prof...

 

I am unclear on the petroleum reference Tom. Care to explain for the uninitiated members of our fora!!!?

 

aL

 

 

Petroleum = Gas.

 

You'll have to forgive ProfD. Like many of us, he sometimes references things we have no idea what he's talking about. I was standing somewhere in left field the other day when I mentioned Captain Kirk and posted a picture of Captain Kangaroo. What's up wit dat?

 

(Well... they're both Captains, aren't they?)

 

Hey guys lighten up. This thread may initially read like a catalog, but it's getting better. I don't know of anyone who owns all those powered speakers. It's going to take a bunch of us contributing our experiences to make this thread honorable. I think I've weighed in before on how I like my old, original EON 15-PAK (it's great - and I've never had a problem with it failing me).

 

And as far as Eva is concerned, Daf, I have to agree. That's the only reason to watch Green Acres. I finally had to move on when the jokes got too corny for even someone like me. However, I think BluesKeys still watches it on TVLand.

 

Eva Gabor was a babe. Zsa Zsa got all the attention before this show came along. Especially when she slapped a Beverly Hills motorcycle police officer in the face after he pulled her over in her Rolls Royce Corniche.

 

Eva. The name evokes beauty. Google "Eva". View the images. Not a bad one in the bunch... for the most part.

 

Rock on.

 

 

 

[Griffinator]

The only issue I have with the two main posts is what is emphasized (via bold-face) versus what is actually important...

 

Frequency response and maximum SPL are far more important than watts...

 

Wattage is almost completely irrelevant in powered speakers. You could have a 5,000 watt amplifier built-in, but if the efficiency of the speaker itself is only 20dB/1W/1M, you still won't get any louder than a boombox. In fact, the only time wattage makes any difference at all is if the two comparitive systems have the same maximum SPL - in which case the one with the lower wattage rating would be the superior choice, since it does more with less!

[MusicaL]

Thanks Prof...

 

I am unclear on the petroleum reference Tom. Care to explain for the uninitiated members of our fora!!!?

 

aL

 

 

Petroleum = Gas.

 

 

doh!

[Cliffk]

Man, I can't get good service from these shop assistants in London. They make all kinds of excuses not to hook you up, when you'd think they'd be happy to do it to get your business! So it looks like I'm going to have to trust you guys' reccommendations.

 

Now I've tried the JBL 15s and they sound great, but haven't tried the SRM450s (which some of you suggest are a bit shrill in the upper register) or the EVs (which sound like they could be the best for my needs: vox and EPs). I'm going to make a last-ditch effort to try these 2 last ones this Saturday (tomorrow), before going for the JBLs.

 

The EAWs are just a bit too pricey for me at this point.

 

By the way, anyone else having hassles with the SEARCH function here?

[kanker.]

By the way, anyone else having hassles with the SEARCH function here?

Google is your friend - just type

site:forums.musicplayer.com search terms

in Google and you should be good to go.

[Cliffk]

Thanks, Kanker.

[Gismo Recording]

 

Eva. The name evokes beauty. Google "Eva". View the images. Not a bad one in the bunch... for the most part.

Good thing you added "for the most part".

http://www.mugshots.com/IMAGES/P__eva-dugan.jpg

[kanker.]

OK, this weekend, my EON G2 started to crap out on me. I have one of the early ones, and they were a bit notorious for power sensitivity issues - bad power would be very audible through the speaker, among other things. The problem appears to be somewhere in the preamp as there's a nasty crackle only when I play that also goes out through the direct out. Anyone know if the power issues have been solved? I'm trying to decide whether to have it repaired, buy a new one, or buy something different.

[DafDuc]

 

Eva. The name evokes beauty. Google "Eva". View the images. Not a bad one in the bunch... for the most part.

Good thing you added "for the most part".

http://www.mugshots.com/IMAGES/P__eva-dugan.jpg

 

Mom?

[Cliffk]

Ok, so my spanking new JBL 15s arrived today and I've spent the whole afternoon trying 'em out. Luuuurvely!

 

One issue though, which I seem to recall someone mentioning a while ago: when these are powered up, they emit a slight 'on' hiss, even at zero volume - hardly audible, but there nonetheless. I only mention this because my Roland KCs (350 & 550) were absolutely quiet until they were really cranked up, and even then the hiss was as you'd expect. Anyone else find this in their JBLs?

[eric]

Question. Which of these audacious speakers has a built-in mixer facility, like the ability to inject 2-3 keyboards. I saw the Peavey one and also I think the JBL EON can take 3 inputs (but not totally sure off the top of my head).

 

I'm interested in these POWERED SPEAKERS, but not particularly interested in carrying a mixer.

[BluesKeys]

Ok, so my spanking new JBL 15s arrived today and I've spent the whole afternoon trying 'em out. Luuuurvely!

 

One issue though, which I seem to recall someone mentioning a while ago: when these are powered up, they emit a slight 'on' hiss, even at zero volume - hardly audible, but there nonetheless. I only mention this because my Roland KCs (350 & 550) were absolutely quiet until they were really cranked up, and even then the hiss was as you'd expect. Anyone else find this in their JBLs?

 

Yes there is a little more hiss to the JBL's than my KC amps but the piano ROCKS through the EON G2's.

 

Eric, you remember correctly the EON G2 15" have 1 XLR input and 2@ 1/4" inputs with volume controls on each and a Treble and Bass control for the entire unit. You just Have to have one 1/4" to XLR cable with a Male XLR I think.

 

FOr those that have had scratchy or crakly noise. I have experienced that with my EON 10". It was the little hidden High/Low switch that lets you change the input for Mic or Line. DO NOT try to use the Mic setting for keys because it will do all kinds of nasty sounds. BTDT

 

[Cliffk]

So the hiss couldn't be a ground problem then, or a un/balanced cable connection problem? I thought I was quite familiar with cabling connections but is a TRS (unbalanced) cable identical - as claimed in the 3rd and 4th examples of p18 HERE - to a TS (unbalanced) cable?