Legatoboy Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I think Cydonia got me headed into a gaseous state for a Kurzweil PC3 damn it, along with the last KM issue! I'm gonna have to check that out! This is just a Gas attack warning, that's all! lb SP6, CP-50,YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, XK-3, CX-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 LB, don't you already have a museum of keyboards up there? If you got it, what would the PC3 add to your current set-up? PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K K Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Naaah... I only talked about the PC2/PC1 series. The PC3 isn't out yet. Did I mention they offer extensive programmability and excellent sounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K K Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Warning to Legatoboy : when you play a Kurz, you might experiment strange views and visualize fast moving horizons of colors like on my avatar. :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirium Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Warning to Legatoboy : when you play a Kurz, you might experiment strange views and visualize fast moving horizons of colors like on my avatar. :grin: hmm, maybe Kurz will be cheaper investment in long run then pot... ♫♫♫ motif XS6, RD700GX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Profd has the answer. . . . .I already have a museum worth of gear, let alone a garage and basement worth. Thing was I could justify gear GAS in the past because I was gigging SO freak-in much, and functioned as a full time musician for about 5 years, things have since changed with the advent of my full-time day gig and health insurance (as horrible and wonderful as that is). I gigged every weekend at least and sometimes 3 times a week. I was making $$ that way and worked as a computer consultant part time through some of it, so I would throw some $ (too much) back every year into a new or re-tooled rig (or 2)! I wanted a rig of gear for each size venue and room I played at. It was justifiable to a degree, but still a VERY big luxury to say the least. It WAS disgusting, I became like a pig in SH*t! 650,000 IT professionals were out of work in 2002 and I was one of em. So the gigging was like a dream come true at the the ripe old age of 48 and a nightmare at the same time. Well, I did have a great great time playing and did things and meet/played with people I would never have imagined prior to my daygig jobloss. I grabbed the ring hard, might be time to loosen that grip alittle in terms of gigging and gear (except a new acoustic)! So I guess this PC3 GAS is a left over from my old patterns, needs and wants. I really need a new acoustic piano at home. I want a Yamaha U1 or a U3 upright for my den and that's the more important instrument right now and I should keep my eyes on the prize! I'm actually becoming a piano player again (as opposed to a Blues/Roots ArT-ist if there is such a thing, ok, there is I guess. . .!) I'll have the visualizations and he$b GAS no matter what! The PC3 GAS looks like it is gonna be worth the indigestion, but I would probably have to sell my CP300 to get it and that would be a hard decision. The Yamaha stage pianos have been berry berry good to me playing wise the past 5 years and I am very comfortable with their performance characteristics. "Old Loves Die Hard"! lb ps. don't tell Kanker about my day gig please (or the reverb)! SP6, CP-50,YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, XK-3, CX-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Delirium, 'hmm, maybe Kurz will be cheaper investment in long run then pot...' It would be actually but I try not to attach too much quantification of values to things these days! Upwardly mobilic is not always up! Could be sideways or diagonal I have come to see! I'm a weekend viper anyway. Got to keep my head clear for logic and making $ (like Spock) during the week right now! Even in terms of my gear! I'm here now! Might not be tomorrow! I would worry more about my wife having to sell my gear and the headache it would be for her If I died 'on the road' more than buying/using the stuff! But retirement and my wife's and my well being is still important for the future though! Losing my day gig after years of hard hard work bending my brain for the likes or Pratt and Whitney and United Technologies and their freakin jet engines and spacesuits and the freaky deaky super Nazi business hyper-nuts I have known on wall street and international banking and sales order/supply chain, buying into the burbs (no kids, a blessing in disguise the past 7 years) and then knowing it could all be gone in an afternoon of downsizing (3 times) does something to a man (especially one without kids and a musical wife).........as David Bowie said 'Made me Loose and Hard to Swallow' much more than fame did. . . .! Imagine what that does to a man with a family, musician or not! Guess it depends on the man and what moves he makes! My parents helped derail my fairly successful musical life in my early 20's and I knuckled under and went back to collage for something else. I had alot of underlying anger about that , and I bought out of my musical life at the level I have lived recently 'gigging' the past 7 - 9 years, many moons ago. The economy, the world, the country and the people these days made things clearer in terms of certain reservations I used to have about how I live my life! Why not buy the (gear/he$b)......why not really practice and play harder and tour some. I'm not hurting ANYBODY and I'm not buy any means a Ideologue of any frekin kind (that I know of) to prevent my life style based on some self imposed 'Fear and Control' paradigm! lb SP6, CP-50,YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, XK-3, CX-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifton Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 LB, I myself see the PC3 as very tempting, but the fact it STILL still has that awful clunky piano sound, as well as those very average rhodes, clav & wurly sounds (though most of the other sounds are very nice!), and costs a good amount more than its nearest two equals. I'm going with something else. Most likely the S90ES. Or if I were a crazy rich man, the Nord Stage. Might I ask what is your current rig/rigs right now? What have you dug out of the basement now that the CP300 is in the shop ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Clifton, The CP33 is going in the shop today for the broken key, not the CP300! I'm doing light recording at home with the CP300. Big Rig: CP300, XK3, Leslie 145, Speakeasy Classic Pre, 2 SX200 EV's (12"s), Crown Poewrbase1, Rolls Mixer (Hex Mix), BBE362, Samson Dual 15 b EQ. Medium Rig: CP33, XK3 or Korg Cx3(v2), Motif ES Rack, Roland M120 mixer, BBE362, MS KBR3-D or Traynor K4, BBE362, Speakeasy using 1/4 in inputs. Small rig: Roland V-Combo (w/ custom LOOPER stereo A/B switch to channel switch to the MS organ channel), and the MS KBR3d or Traynor K4 or Roland KC 350, BBE362. and combinations of the above rigs to mix and match! Also a Kurzweil SP-76. . . .Roland SRX 11 for the V-Combo and the World SRX Card also! I have EVEYTHING I could ever want really! Selected very carefully for myself as we all do based on needs or need/wants! lb SP6, CP-50,YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, XK-3, CX-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K K Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 LB, I myself see the PC3 as very tempting, but the fact it STILL still has that awful clunky piano sound, as well as those very average rhodes, clav & wurly sounds (though most of the other sounds are very nice!), and costs a good amount more than its nearest two equals. Then as I mentioned earlier getting a PC1 or PC2 would make you save time, money and get just about the same sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K K Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 With the advantage of using the great PC2 manager software which multiplies by 10 the Kurz programmability. Not to mention it will probably NOT be compatible with the PC3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifton Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Then as I mentioned earlier getting a PC1 or PC2 would make you save time, money and get just about the same sounds. That's a very good point, but me, having had regular use of a PC2x for about all of last year, I am QUITE sure the sound set just doesn't do it for me. If it did I'd probably buy myself a PC1se, excellent board for the price. With the advantage of using the great PC2 manager software which multiplies by 10 the Kurz programmability. Not to mention it will probably NOT be compatible with the PC3. Really? I up until now was completely unaware any such software existed. Just how does one go about it (seeing as the PC Series has no computer interface, apart from MIDI dumps)? Another question to those who are in the know...does the PC3 feature synthesis or NOT? Call me a big idiot, but the information on the Kurzweil site refers to synthesis but does not explicitly state it...and I am confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifton Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Warning to Legatoboy : when you play a Kurz, you might experiment strange views and visualize fast moving horizons of colors like on my avatar. :grin: Cool avatar btw Cydonia, very 2001-ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifton Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I have EVERYTHING I could ever want really! Yes you bloody do! How you can justify to yourself (or your wife, for that matter) buying so much gear is beyond my comprehension. Respect. The CP33 is going in the shop today for the broken key, not the CP300! I'm doing light recording at home with the CP300. Oh, my mistake. Easy one to make when you're a man who own both, damn you, haha . Clearly with the number of individual rigs you own, have another board sit in is not an issue. Do you find you get a lot of use out of each different rig config? And what determines what kind of gig gets which rig for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 I think I would like an instrument that is alittle more of a synth for a stage piano. Though the CP300 and CP33 are really great for me as stage pianos and they have their descent/usuable Roads, Wurli and Clav's also, deep down I really want something with alittle more depth as an instrument in a synth context. I have two failed attempts with the Roland RD700 and RD700SX. Thier piano sounds didn't work live for my needs. I had a PC2 (76) that I returned because of the keyweights dropping out. And the piano may not have been robust enough! I returned a Nord Stage 88 because it fell apart on me in the first week. The piano was, well, different espically on the first batch of em'. I took a serious look and a S90ES but I would have the same 'cut' and 'girth' problem with that as the RD700sx to some degree. So, I am inclined to a slightly 'deeper' instrument. But their piano sounds never really gave me what the Yamaha stage pianos gave me in my live gig contexts playing louder musics. And piano is really what my main purpose is for my stage ax. The CP and P held up to the crush tests I gave them 'On the Road' soundwise. I did purchase and use my Motif ES rack to enhance my sound pallette and programability ( I needed accordian and other sound at times and I always want a full soundset to record at home). But ultimately I guess I'm still looking for the holy grail, that is as good as the P,CP series as stage pianos (for me) AND have the depth of the RD700sx,S90es,PC2's,Nord Stages from a synth 'depth' standpoint. I guess I should be very happy with the CP's and the Motif route I have taken and shut up. I just want everything in one box, one chassis. The new Motif XS's video demos really got me going. Seems they added the P,CP stage piano charasctics to the deeper board. But It's a workstation and very very big, bigger and bulkier than the CP300 I would say! If I gigged with that, well people would start to talk ('what a dandy!'). . . . That's my Gas! or sould I say 'Pain in the Gas!' lb SP6, CP-50,YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, XK-3, CX-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Clifton, I used it all regularly, monthly! weekly! daily! I played ALOT! If your out gigging on 8 hour gigs three times a week. . and out of town. . . and your band is 'agressive' and you are like me about your sound....it's easy! I worked very hard gigging, I felt I deserved it! Things have changed....... I just want to stay home and play piano now much much more. Things may just get sold.... but there are people with more gear than I have! Basically stage size and gig 'importance' determined the rig. the big rig was the real deal! Sounded great! Clifton, don't hate me man! I just love playing great gear! I could of shot the whole load on 1 Steinway. ( I probably should have!). The Steinway would have cost more! lb SP6, CP-50,YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, XK-3, CX-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K K Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Really? I up until now was completely unaware any such software existed. Just how does one go about it (seeing as the PC Series has no computer interface, apart from MIDI dumps)? Another question to those who are in the know...does the PC3 feature synthesis or NOT? Call me a big idiot, but the information on the Kurzweil site refers to synthesis but does not explicitly state it...and I am confused. You're right about my avatar, it's a pic from the movie. The freeware works by receiving/sending SYSEX to the instrument. What's strange is that the PC1/PC2 engine actually offers much more than what you can actually do on the synth interface. Why did Kurzweil omit all those parameters on the instrument? I don't know. I even discovered things that are doable and which are neither in the interface, neither on the software. For example, create custom velocity maps and intonation tables, and which will stay in memory even when power is off. Many felt the PC2/PC1 acoustic pianos decayed too fast, etc. With the freeware, you can modify all that. Not quite easy though, it's pretty much like working on a light version K2600, but there's tons of things waiting to be modified. :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K K Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Legatoboy, maybe you need to sell everything and buy an OASYS? :grin: Though I've never heard one. But many say the piano sound is killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Cy, you took the characters right off my fingertips. LB, you are a prime candidate for an OASYS. I believe there is a Tristano tuning scale in there too. PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Cydonia, I'm gonna sell everything and by a farm in Hombolt county and invite Delirium up for a drink....! Anybody else who wants to tag along is welcome, even Clifton, but he can't talk to my wife! As Stinky used to say 'I've been a Ba-aad Boo-yy'! lb SP6, CP-50,YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, XK-3, CX-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Profd, I am having a bout with Tristanoitis, how'd you know! I will never give my address out now that my GEAR lust is totally exposed! I feel ashamed! Where's a Fig Leaf! I went overboard, I know! I would never buy an OASYS. I like a modular approach! lb SP6, CP-50,YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, XK-3, CX-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 You can all Razz me all you want you drunken sailors! I had a pisser with all my gear and I used every last board - regularly - from dates opening up for the Allman Brothers, (side Stage- ok) to playing huge venues and with all sorts of great players from the 'SubCultt-ure' and the dives! So I didn't buy a new car! Bout the same price really. I rather drive the heap! And I'll probably never ever have a chance to do THAT again in my sorry little life! So, shoot me ! (or maybe my wife should, she was with me for all of it,we had a great time!) Clifton! Forgive me, 'AM' I a lost man! lb SP6, CP-50,YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, XK-3, CX-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifton Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Clifton, I used it all regularly, monthly! weekly! daily! I played ALOT! If your out gigging on 8 hour gigs three times a week. . and out of town. . . and your band is 'agressive' and you are like me about your sound....it's easy! I worked very hard gigging, I felt I deserved it! Things have changed....... I just want to stay home and play piano now much much more. Things may just get sold.... but there are people with more gear than I have! Basically stage size and gig 'importance' determined the rig. the big rig was the real deal! Sounded great! Clifton, don't hate me man! I just love playing great gear! I could of shot the whole load on 1 Steinway. ( I probably should have!). The Steinway would have cost more! lb I don't hate you LB, I'm just rather jealous is all . Respect that you're gigging enough to afford all that stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifton Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Anybody else who wants to tag along is welcome, even Clifton, but he can't talk to my wife! Lol, sorry what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirium Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Cydonia, I'm gonna sell everything and by a farm in Hombolt county and invite Delirium up for a drink....! Anybody else who wants to tag along is welcome, even Clifton, but he can't talk to my wife! As Stinky used to say 'I've been a Ba-aad Boo-yy'! lb LB, great idea, sometimes I have similar illusionary fantasies until I fall down from my S90ES on the floor...:grin: nice farm, 1000 sheep: http://www.geo.ucalgary.ca/~malcolm/sheep.jpg and the one who inspire you: http://www.hedweb.com/animimag/sheep-hotlinks.jpg anyway LB when you do that you can count on me ♫♫♫ motif XS6, RD700GX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Clifton, I hussled gigging, teaching piano, consulting (computers) and and workiong a full time day gig (now)....... It was starting to affect my health to be honest with you..... There was no tour bus. I'm 52! It wasn't all roses! Steadying gigging ( and on the road) is hard on everything! Time to relax alittle and be a piano player again! In a year if my gig stance hasn't changed, I'll decide what to do with the gear. It should still be sale-able in a year! It's was like those love/horror stories you hear about people with Lionel trains to some degree! It was also a good incentive to prove to myself I was worth it musically, it helped keep me moving forward ( the monetary commitment) I went through a big life change with not being able to find steady day gig work! lb SP6, CP-50,YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, XK-3, CX-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K K Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Cydonia, I'm gonna sell everything and by a farm in Hombolt county and invite Delirium up for a drink....! Anybody else who wants to tag along is welcome... Cool. Can I bring my neighbour? She loves farm animals. http://i.a.cnn.net/si/features/2007_swimsuit/images/photos/07_irina_04.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 I just started giggling! She can work on the farm SURE! now I'm moaning alittle... I'm hitting the print button. . . . . I'm .. . .nevermind! lb SP6, CP-50,YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, XK-3, CX-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Tra-la-la boostia! Hey, Isn't that another picture of the girl you LIKE from the other photos Cydonia! No, it isn't, but I think I'm starting to get the jist of your 'type'! lb SP6, CP-50,YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, XK-3, CX-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirium Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 C Can I bring my neighbour? She loves farm animals. http://i.a.cnn.net/si/features/2007_swimsuit/images/photos/07_irina_04.jpg oh man, how am I supposed to work now... I think I'll move to your neighborhood. I can be any animal she wants :grin: ♫♫♫ motif XS6, RD700GX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.